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The number of people on this board who don't undertstand the most basic concepts of cell phones (subsidized prices, contracts, etc) is astonishing and honestly quite disturbing.

No one gets subsidized phone prices whenever they want. You have to wait until you are eligible like everyone else. You are not special. You can't go into the AT&T store and demand free/subsidized phones whenever you feel like it.

When you bought your iPhone 3G, Apple billed AT&T for the phone at a certain price and then AT&T sold the phone to you AT A LOSS in exchange for a signed contract that would guarantee they would recoup their loss and make a profit.

That very few people here seem to grasp this concept is unsettling. Get over it! All I know is that my launch-day EDGE iPhone is ready for retirement and my 32GB $299 iPhone is ordered and on its way!

thank god.... I'm not alone.

People think they can sign a 2 year contract and then get a new phone at a subsidized price 1 year later..... LOL. This is how it has always been.... on all carriers.... for all phones. You don't get to purchase a phone for a subsidized price and then upgrade whenever YOU deem fit.

For those of you wondering how some 3G guys are eligible for the full upgrade; your monthly bill can determine how early you can get a new subsidy. For example: if you're paying a massive monthly family bill you'll be eligible for an upgrade earlier than someone who just pays a bill for one iphone.
 
I guess its time to give my old one to the gf then so I can get one on her line
 
Sorry to be dense, but is it $499 or $699 for 32GB if you currently have a 3G???? :confused::confused::confused:

if you have an iphone 3G and you aren't eligible for an upgrade yet, you get the special "upgrade" price of $400 for 16, and $500 for 32. AT&T gave 3G owners $200 off even though they weren't eligible for an upgrade.... and they're still losing their ****. what a joke
 
For those of you wondering how some 3G guys are eligible for the full upgrade; your monthly bill can determine how early you can get a new subsidy. For example: if you're paying a massive monthly family bill you'll be eligible for an upgrade earlier than someone who just pays a bill for one iphone.

Then wouldnt it make sence to have new iphones every 14-15 months so the ones that waited in the lines last year wouldnt be ripped off by ATT
 
Gmab!

ATT is a greedy company, OK! But, please, I have waited almost two years to upgrade my 2g phone. ATT's upgrade policy was known long ago. If you think that you can always get the latest and greatest without paying more, you better wake up! Also, most upgrades are not two years they are around 18 months.

My iphone has been eligible for an upgrade for several months. But, I knew that I couldn't get the new iphone (Gs) at the subsidized price , if I upgraded to the 3g model.
 
Color me confused.

The Apple page says 99, 199, and 299 for new contract.

The fine print says 599 and 699 for the iPhone 3Gs if you are not eligable to upgrade.

But when you put in your info, you get:

300- 8GB
400- 16GB
500- 32GB

WTF!!

If you are the main account holder you get an early upgrade every 1.5 years. As an additional line on an account you get to upgrade 3 months prior to the contract ending. So the prices are like this:

Main account holder: get's to upgrade early but most iPhone 3g users now can't upgrade until December of 09 so the prices are -

599- 16GB
699- 32GB

Addition line on account: Is not allowed to upgrade until March of 2010 so the prices are -

400- 16GB
500- 32GB
 
Then wouldnt it make sence to have new iphones every 14-15 months so the ones that waited in the lines last year wouldnt be ripped off by ATT

no..... because they assume that the average adult understands what a CONTRACT is.....

oh wait...... the board is erupting with people that don't care they that SIGNED A CONTRACT you say? holy ****.... i'd swear buying products from apple turns people into 5 year olds... I don't understand why everyone thinks they're special when they buy an apple product.... they think the normal rules are applicable
 
if you have an iphone 3G and you aren't eligible for an upgrade yet, you get the special "upgrade" price of $400 for 16, and $500 for 32. AT&T gave 3G owners $200 off even though they weren't eligible for an upgrade.... and they're still losing their ****. what a joke

Okay... still sort of confusing...
 
I have another question but I will probably need ATT to tell me.

Okay, my son has a Sony Erickson W600i.

He is OBVIOUSLY due an upgrade.

Can I upgrade his line, but take "his" iPhone 3gS and give him my iPhone 3G?

I wonder if ATT would let me do this??
 
I see so much mis-information in this thread.

I have a family plan, 2 iPhones, 1 Blackberry, 2 normal phones. Five total phones.

Been with ATT since they were called BellSouth Mobility and featured the Moto StarTAC and it was the cream of the crop.

I have bought too many phones to count from this company.

I my self have gone:

StarTAC, A few Nokias, Sony W600i, Cingular 8525, Blackberry Pearl, Blackberry Curve, iPhone 3G.

And according to Apples web site, I have to pay full price.
 
I have another question but I will probably need ATT to tell me.

Okay, my son has a Sony Erickson W600i.

He is OBVIOUSLY due an upgrade.

Can I upgrade his line, but take "his" iPhone 3gS and give him my iPhone 3G?

I wonder if ATT would let me do this??

It can be done. It's not a built in process though you will have to take on the new contract then de-activate your device and de-activate his device keeping both data plans then reactive both of them plan on spending a day or so on this.
 
I believe that when AT&T calculates upgrade eligibility, they do take into consideration how long you've been a customer. I think that for those of us who switched to AT&T in order to buy the first iPhone in 2007 and then bought a 3g in June 2008, that 2-year history with the company is what is causing them to make us upgrade-eligible 18 months into our current contract. Some people with a 3G are posting that they are upgrade eligible in July -- I would guess that those people have a longer history with AT&T.

It's generally cheaper to keep a current customer than to sign up a new one, so the mobile companies generally do reward long-term customers with treatment that is designed to cause them to stick around.

I am a launch day 3G buyer who switched to AT&T ,I can upgrade a the 199/299 price on 7/2 which doesn't make any sense because it is less then a year. I think AT&T takes your plan into account when they let you upgrade.
 
I got a Blackberry Bold through work and it beats my iphone in so many ways. I hardly use the thing, I don't think the iphone is worth upgrading until I can choose someone other than AT&T. It sucks that I am stuck with them via my work contract too. :(

I don't think there is a company on the planet I hate more than AT&T. I think if I had the choice I would rather send my money overseas to terrorist organizations than to give to AT&T.

I am sure we will start to see 3GS iphones on ebay soon enough that may or may not have "fallen off the truck".
 
iam going to add a line then ETF it.. then i wont have a problem right? i figure the 325 for the 32gb +175 for ETF + one month. ~575. i just dont know if i should cancel my new contract or my old one that has rollover mins and my number. iam thinking just cancel the new one.
 
A new Hope

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
I have been an att customer for 11 months I have a family plan with my wife sister and myself two iPhones one stupid sony.

According to the AT&T web site I am eligible for a 199/299 upgrade in about two months.

I do not believe I am a "high value customer"... whatever that means.

I wonder if the gambit is this: stem the tide of new iPhone activations by not letting existing customers upgrade for two months. I imagine its a huge headache when they do a big release like this.

Plus this way they don't cannibalize their sales by all those old 3g iphones hitting the craigslist market.

But they still get all us chumps to buy a new 3gS a couple of months after the release date.

If this is the case I guess my fury is sated as I'm not typically a super early adopter anyway.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

PS the at&t web site is apparently being pummeled right now.
 
Man AT&T is really starting to drop the ball on this one... seriously? you're going to charge everyone who bought an iPhone 3G THAT much... and then to make things worse they lower the iPhone 3G price to $99... If the new iPhone 3GS was such a huge leap, maybe the price would be ok... but come on, seriously?

I hate you AT&T, your network sucks.
 
Man AT&T is really starting to drop the ball on this one... seriously? you're going to charge everyone who bought an iPhone 3G THAT much... and then to make things worse they lower the iPhone 3G price to $99... If the new iPhone 3GS was such a huge leap, maybe the price would be ok... but come on, seriously?

I hate you AT&T, your network sucks.
LOL at the blaming of AT&T.

I can't believe the uniformed posts on this forum.

Selling the iPhone 3GS for 199 is a LOSS for AT&T.

They sell it to upgrade eligible people because they are locking you in for another 2 year contract.

Someone NOT eligible for an upgrade, who got the 3G on launch day, could go in, get the cheap price, and then leave AT&T when their contract is up in a year.

Why do people constantly blame AT&T when EVERY carrier works this way?

The price of the iPhone, subsidized or not, is on APPLE, not AT&T.
 
I've had mine replaced under warranty several times and get the "reduced" prices of 399/499

The "reduced" pricing is a combination of how long you've been an AT&T customer, when you last upgrade was, what plan you have, how many features you, if you've ever made a late paymet have etc etc

Even a AT&T rep can't tell you how they calculate the date.

Do you have any proof regarding this? A lot of people around here say it has nothing to do with this or that and say what the formula is, but how do you know this?

For all we know it is a bug in the website right now and will be much more standardized.

If you have some inside info to prove it, please share, but around here it sounds like there are enough people who have disproved any potential reasoning.
 
iam going to add a line then ETF it.. then i wont have a problem right? i figure the 325 for the 32gb +175 for ETF + one month. ~575. i just dont know if i should cancel my new contract or my old one that has rollover mins and my number. iam thinking just cancel the new one.

I highly doubt you will be able to do this if the account is in the same name.
 
if you have an iphone 3G and you aren't eligible for an upgrade yet, you get the special "upgrade" price of $400 for 16, and $500 for 32. AT&T gave 3G owners $200 off even though they weren't eligible for an upgrade.... and they're still losing their ****. what a joke

There are many people around here with iPhone 3G that are being quoted the full retail price (499, 599, 699) so please stop making broad based generalizations that aren't true.
 
So here my situuation, I'm not eligible for the subsidize price until 8/2010, but I think I found a way to get my 3gs, I have a family plan, 1 iPhone 3g (mines) 2 black berrys (my fiancé and my brother in-law). My fiancé doesn't mind if I upgrade her line and just keep the 3gs, so my question is if I do upgrade a line can I just swap my sim from my 3g to the 3gs and just use my number and my finace can keep her black berry?
 
wont it have to be in the same name if its my account and i cancel one of my lines? what can they say "you cant cancel one of your add on lines"
I highly doubt you will be able to do this if the account is in the same name.
 
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