Apple has to turn around their declining global market share. The US/European markets are mature and offer no growth (actually they are slipping there as well). They need to grow in China; but they missed the mark with the high priced 5C. Apple is stuck using the iPhone profits to make up for the significant drop in sales of the PC/Laptop products; which have been their cash cows (and major source of high margin) for years.
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Finally a maningful thread, I'm happy with the new devices that apple show and I don't know whats the point of weeping about that you don't like them, the S model is always the same design and the 5C is really nice for people who want to have ios phone for cheap. 
Thats not what he's saying, to constantly complain about what apple did wrong instead of what they did right. We knew we weren't getting a bigger display, yet, some still were mad that one wasn't announced. They think apple is just some big bad wolf that wants to choose what we can and can't have. When it's ready we will have it. If you can't wait there are other great alternatives. But you have to admit when apple does something that is already done. They do it great, the fingerprint scanner is a pretty awesome piece of tech, when they did the iPad mini, it's a great product. When they released the original iPhone it was revolutionary. Just sit back relax, and enjoy what we do have instead of what you don't.
plastic or metal, the total packaging won't exceed $20 bucks, some cheap mass manufactured aluminum alloy or polycarbonate resin totally matters on a $700-900 dollar phone right?
AAPL stock is down by 6% already and Apple is downgraded to "neutral" by major financial institutions...
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Oooh noooo they must be going bust!!
It's the way you hold it. I think you are gripping your S4 too firmly. Try placing your right pinky under the bottom of your device. That's how I hold mine, without gripping hard at all, and I never accidentally hit my screen.
I second this. Although granted, a fingerprint scanner has been done before, Apple wouldn't have included it in the iPhone if they weren't confident that it's reliable enough for the average user to make use of it. If something doesn't work well, the mass market turn it off and move on with their lives. Case in point, Air Gestures. It's easier to just tap and select the words you want on the screen than hold your finger over it and wait for the phone to do it for you. Granted, it's meant for people wearing gloves, but it's not that much of a pet hate just yet. Plus, you can buy capacitive gloves for £15 these days, compared to the Galaxy S4 which costs £550.
Moving to 64-bit is a foundation thing, it lays the groundwork for the future when applications will require that extra performance. We sure as hell wouldn't have games the visual quality of Crysis 3 if Windows was still running 32-bit all round. And the camera improvements? Well let's just say a 16Megapixel professional camera walks all over Nokia's 41Megapixel pureview, simply because the hardware features like aperture are vastly superior and make more of a difference to the image quality than sheer megapixel quantity.
This culture of "innovation" is a facade. Companies like Samsung have preached that features like Air gestures are innovative, and actually they almost are, except innovation is more than making something new, it's making something that works so reliably that you use it without thinking about it. Think of when broadband moved from dial up which required us to manually log in every single session to being always-on providing the modem is powered up.
The real difference here is that Apple doesn't feel like it has to compete with everyone else's ideas, they move at their own pace, while everyone else seems to be rushing out potentially brilliant features just to beat Apple to the punch. It's a shame that a lot of people believe banging out a dozen ideas that barely work or work "okay", is better than pushing two or three that work flawlessly.
Samsung is a "jack of all trades, master of none type" They toss in 1,000's of half baked features that you might use. Apple limits the features to things that are useful and then tries to perfect them. Neither one is necessarily "wrong" but I myself prefer useful and perfected over half baked and useless most the time.
It's an absent minded thing for me.....I pick up my phone, hold it the way I showed and get frustrated when my palm hits the screen. Then I shift my hand and work away, even one-handed.....
Not saying it was impossible. Just in my natural grip on my phone (which is used to holding an iPhone - even after having owned Android phones for a while).
Agreed. If you don't like it, shut the f up and go buy an android and have fun with that. I had plenty of android phones and they are full of errors.
Leave. Nobody cares. Wah wah wah. Bye! I'm getting 5s and I'm gonna love it!
Leave. Nobody cares. Wah wah wah. Bye! I'm getting 5s and I'm gonna love it!
It's hard to be disappointed when your expectations weren't that high to begin with. The 'S' iterations of the iPhone have never been major steps forward. Why anyone would expect that at this point is puzzling. The 4, the 5, and most likely the 6 will be where the design changes and such occur.
The 'love it or leave it' attitude that some express here is a bit disturbing though. This forum has always been a good place to discuss things with people with varying opinions on Apple and its products & services.
The 'love it or leave it' attitude that some express here is a bit disturbing though. This forum has always been a good place to discuss things with people with varying opinions on Apple and its products & services.
It's natural that holding a larger phone might require a different method of handling it. It appears you are handling the S4 as if it was an old iPhone, and hence your issue.
I'm coming from an iPhone 5. It was pretty natural to adjust my handling of the S4 so it worked for me early on.
This S iteration actually exceeded my expectations. 64-bit that's huge and no one was expecting it. A fingerprint sensor done correctly That's huge. Some may have attempted a fingerprint sensor but they did not succeed Not even close. A unibody polycarbonate design it's just plastic done correctly. I wouldn't expect too much from a design change what are you going to make it the shape of a football Or a circle?
you might like this article
http://m.tuaw.com/2013/09/11/on-apple-the-new-iphones-and-points-made-and-missed/
Honestly, some posters here act worse than BlackBerry fanboys. If you think Apple can do no wrong, then you are wrong. Corporations are not always correct. Lets clear up two items:
1. Everyone has a right to think for themselves and have their own opinion. If someone likes or does not like the new iPhones that is their right. No one has a right to say a person is wrong for thinking a certain way. Get off your high horse.
2. If you think Apple is a 'god' and can do no wrong, well that's how users of BlackBerry felt. I know because I used BlackBerry for years. But, once I realized they were not changing for the better I left their products and services. Even a great company like Apple will screw up. Some people here act like Apple can do no wrong, sorry to tell you this but yes they can - everyone can.
1. Everyone has a right to think for themselves and have their own opinion. If someone likes or does not like the new iPhones that is their right. No one has a right to say a person is wrong for thinking a certain way. Get off your high horse.
2. If you think Apple is a 'god' and can do no wrong, well that's how users of BlackBerry felt. I know because I used BlackBerry for years. But, once I realized they were not changing for the better I left their products and services. Even a great company like Apple will screw up. Some people here act like Apple can do no wrong, sorry to tell you this but yes they can - everyone can.
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Everybody knew what we were getting for WEEKS!
I am not upset with the upgrade, it is exactly what I expected.
The 5C believe it or not is a good option. You have no idea how many people will look at the 2 models and say I want to save $100 and get a cool color. I am not one of them, but there are plenty of those people out there that will buy.
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Yes, they are innovative but are they needed and useful?
1. SIRI was "innovative", how much do iPhone users use SIRI?
2. Faster phone. So what. The iPhone 5 is fast enough (it's a phone not a laptop computer).
3. Better camera. Sure, the camera is better. But, is it really worth a full phone upgrade? The iPhone 5 camera is fine and one of the best on the market right now. Plus, most people don't print the photos from their phones. The photos are used for online display. I'm a photographer and I don't use my iPhone for fancy photos, it's just to take snapshots.
4. The scanner is nice and an interesting feature. But, it's just a nice to have feature. Don't forget no apps will have access to the scanner.
Bottom line is users have a right to like or dislike the new iPhone. It's called a free market. If you don't like free speech don't read the internet.
You shouldnt be buying a phone every year, the reason why its not a huge upgrade from the 5 is because its the 5S. The bigger updates always coming every two days. From the 5 to the 6.
I am going from a 4S to a 5S and its a big leap for someone like me. And its even bigger if someone as on a 4 or 3GS