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Regardless of the utility of the current design they have attempted something that most people would think not possible.
I do hope they eventually succeed.

There’s nothing to say Apple or any other company hasn’t attempted this, they may have then realised it’s not possible to make a consumer device at this time.
 
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Their invention of the folding screen is cool, but it's not really innovation until it's put into a valuable application. Right now, they slapped two phones together with their folding screen and called it a day. This product is no better than what we have today. (...)

On the contrary, reviewers say they cannnot imagine life without a folding phone now.

It's not just the larger screen, but being able to have multiple apps open on it.

The current hinge's susceptibility to foreign matter is the main downer.
 
Samsung did not want ifix it to expose any more flaws in their already flawed product save what little face they have left.
 
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Is that really how long they’ve been working on this phone?

This phone? Dunno about that specifically. But they first debuted tech demos of foldable OLED's as far back as 2013 at trade shows (which means also probably working on it even longer).

Whether or not they've been working on the phone itself for 6+ years is probably something only Samsung knows, But they've had vision for foldable/rollable displays for phones for at minimum 6 years.
 
By partially work you mean you travel back/forward in time but your legs are missing? Yeah somehow I don't think that would be considered a breakthrough.
I have to admit that image crossed my mind, too. Or getting stuck with bits of technology in your gear at any period of time in any place conducting with hunts. :confused:
 
The level of gloating here by armchair engineers and armchair industrial designers is pretty pathetic. Being able to point out a flaw is not a super hero skill, Captain Obvious.
There, now go amount to something.

The level of defending here by armchair engineers and armchair industrial designers is pretty pathetic. Being able to defend a flaw is not a super hero skill, Captain Obvious.
There, now go amount to something
 
The level of gloating here by armchair engineers and armchair industrial designers is pretty pathetic. Being able to point out a flaw is not a super hero skill, Captain Obvious.
There, now go amount to something.
It’s not so much gloating from armchair engineers as it, WTF were Samsung engineers thinking?

Seriously, how was it possible for them to overlook such a glaringly obvious point of ingress in a $2000 device? That’s pathetic.
 
If you built a time machine and it partially worked it would be considered a breakthrough and you'd be considered a success, no one would say you failed, you'd just need to continue to work on it until it was 100%. Samsung didn't fail they just need to refine their product and make it work right.

If you use the word “success” as it’s defined in the dictionary then “partially working” would not be considered a success.

On the other hand, partially working satisfies the definition of failure.

But if you make up your own definitions to suit your personal beliefs, then yeah you’re 100% correct.
 
I wouldn't say they junked the idea, they'd have to wait until they can buy the screen tech from Samsung since they can't make it themselves. So Samsung would have to make the display/form factor work first in order for Apple to bring this to the market. If Samsung can make it work they can sell some themselves but it'll also be good for their screen biz as other companies will come calling for the screens. So Apple is just waiting around.
Are you sure Apple would use Samsung’s screens? There could be a good reason Apple invested $2.7 billion in LG’s OLED technology.
 
Why is that fair? Should newspapers not be allowed to post yesterday’s baseball scores because there will be new games played today?

Should car magazines not be allowed to share photos of prototype cars because nobody will ever be able to drive one?

If someone got a hold of a prototype AirPower should ifixit not be allowed to tear it down and publish to the world why it was defective?
If you give me a CMaier X1000 Turbo Max Pro pre-production model for review and I turn it over to Timber Tear It Open for a teardown, you have every right to get all up in my colon and tell me to 1. get your property back and 2. get that teardown off the internet. You didn't give the X1000 TMP to Timber, I did. If I want to keep getting access to your products then I will correct my error because it wasn't my right to give your property to Timber. I want to remain in your good graces and Timber wants to remain in my good graces. The teardown gets torn down.

When you ship the X1000 TMP, Timber purchases one for teardown... as they normally do for all their teardowns... of products on sale... which your X1000 TMP was not.


To answer your AirPower question... ifixit would not be allowed to tear it down and publish unless they got explicit permission from Apple. Otherwise the would be in possession of potentially stolen IP and subject to legal action. AirPower? That legal action would be swift and unrelenting.
 
The thing is, how do you cram years of simulated use into such a short space of time needed to get the product to market before anyone else? How do you know that an item would be pretty much guaranteed to break after 6 months' continuous use if it's only subjected to 3 month's-worth due to time constraints? I don't know how accelerated it's possible to reasonably achieve real-world usage tests, but as devices are getting more and more complicated, rushing these items to market is becoming more of a problem, so it seems.

1) you don’t know how much time Samsung spent testing

2) yes it’s possible to cram years of folding and unfolding into a very short period of time, and Samsung did exactly that
 
There's a reason why Apple has strived very hard to remove any movable parts from their devices in the last decade.
Yeah, to make it impossible to repair by yourself..... or upgrade (soldered stuff and co.), then pretend they did it for the environment. ;)

Ah the power of marketing!

There are plenty of OLD stuff with movable parts that still works flawlessly today, so if done right, it'll work!
 
Thanks, a very interesting read. Amazing just how mechanical it is, shame they clearly hadnt bothered with ingress protection or making that screen layer more robust.
Nothing a little bit of duct tape can’t fix, shouldn’t be too difficult to seal up that hinge area nice and tight.

Not sure about that plastic film over the display though... I think that have a tendency to get a little scratched up. Unless it’s Gorilla Saran Wrap, then it should be fine.
 
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I do not get it, iFix it did not do anything wrong, so while Samsung can Ask to take it down, they cannot "request", unless it was a demo unit with NDA.....
Samsung didn't give iFixit a demo unit. They gave it to someone else. That person let iFixit tear it down. Samsung told that person to get their property back and make iFixit take it down. Ask and request mean the same thing. I think you meant Samsung can't demand iFixit take down the tear down. That's wrong too. But they didn't have to demand it. They made the person who received their property correct the error.
 
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Introduction
Well, we’ve finally got the Samsung Galaxy Fold on our teardown table. This is, without question, an ambitious first-generation device—the idea of having both a smartphone and a tablet in your pocket at all times is pretty exciting! That said, a number of early reviewers had some durability issues with their review units, ultimately leading to a launch postponement. Are these temporary setbacks? Or are we headed for a full-blown AirPower-style product cancellation? We have no idea—we’re just here for a teardown
I just love iFixIt. This is a good teardown read, done not-too-seriously and interspersed with humor.

iFixIt teardowns are a good read for those that want to know "how things work" or in this case "how things do not work". And, they simply nailed it this time -- as the post mortem bears their findings.

In my view, no shame on Samsung -- no hate to Samsung at all.
They tried something ambitiously different and came up short.

So. let's wait and see what comes out of this, eventually, as others (not excluding Samsung) give it a renewed shot.
 
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