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iFixit Shares Full 16-Inch MacBook Pro Teardown
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I’m quite aware. Screaming your ignorance doesn’t do you any favors.
So just how do you think an unauthorized repair shop gets ahold of an official, authentic Apple battery?
Using the Apple T2, they can configure the flash memory to do whatever they want. It is probably two 256GB "disks" combined into a single volume for macOS.
For a company that likes to toot it's horn about how green they are they sure like to make their products impossible to fix/upgrade instead of just replacing the entire thing. I've replaced the SSD in my 2012 MBP twice now..battery once.. and battery wasn't exactly "replaceable" even then since it was also glued 
Well except that you unnecessarily had to pay extra for the Apple Care.
Darth Tulhu
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"Whine" is the favored word of Apple apologists, with "complain" coming in a close second.
Nevermind whether valid points are being made, or the irony of them "complaining" about the "whiners".
All that said, we're here folks. Apple will NEVER make a user-accessible laptop again. They gave us roughly eight years of prep, though, when the Retinas first came out and they started soldering things in that used to be replaceable.
The iMacs have been glued shut for a while, iPads were always so, thus this will migrate to ALL their devices. I am ready to let this go, and I'm training to let go of Apple as well should it come to that.
In that time Windows has become serviceable enough.
Hopefully, the rest of the industry will not copy Apple on this one thing, but I wouldn't count on that either, sadly.
Doesn't matter the use. All of Apple's product line for Air, MB, and MBP have the same problem of not being easily repairable by anyone other than Apple. With the introduction of the T2, now no one can replace that top case themselves or through another third party after warranty. And even then, the cost to replace the top case for any of the joined components is ridiculous waste and reduction in the notebook being reusable over a longer period of time. Who wants to pay Apple 700+ dollars after three years for a top case replacement on a depreciated notebook that may not even be less in resell value all because the computer needed a keyboard, battery, etc. replacement.
Over time, the fans inside your laptop may start collecting dust which reduce the thermal efficiency and may cause the fans to rattle. In such case, you may need to open your laptop to clean it up.
Not a single statement in your post is true.
If they can afford why not? How could it possibly matter to you?
That said, there are plenty of home/consumer users of MBP who didn’t buy it for Facebook.
"Overall, the MacBook Pro earned a repairability score of 1 because the processor, RAM, and storage are soldered to the logic board, while the keyboard, battery, speakers, and Touch Bar are secured with glue and rivets."
I'll have fun repairing this for customers
I'll have fun repairing this for customers
Because the average consumer is going to have both the desire and the knowledge to disassemble a $3,000 computer ????
That was a rhetorical question. The answer is clearly no.
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Nothing prevents you from doing that on this or any other MacBook. Come up with a better scenario.
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For a company that likes to toot it's horn about how green they are they sure like to make their products impossible to fix/upgrade instead of just replacing the entire thing. I've replaced the SSD in my 2012 MBP twice now..battery once.. and battery wasn't exactly "replaceable" even then since it was also glued
Apple can repair or replace any part, and when they do, you can rest assured that the old parts will be recycled.
On the other hand, when Joe Redneck replaces the battery in his Dell, the old battery will end up in the trash can.
Thanks Tim Cook. You told me that three years ago.
Not everyone wants to buy a new laptop every 3 years nor spend $400 for $125 worth of RAM.
swingerofbirch
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It wasn't that long ago that MacBooks and MacBook Pros came with instructions in the manual in the box that showed you how to replace the hard drive. It was super easy to do, which is why Apple could show consumers how to do it (in laptops that cost way less than $3,000) how to do it with a few simple graphics. It's why you could hugely increase the speed of 2012 and prior MacBooks by upgrading to an SSD. It would be so easy for Apple to use M.2 drive. I'm betting even the Mac Pro won't use standard M.2 drives.
That is incorrect. I used to have a 2012 Macbook pro and RAM was upgradable. So check your info before posting nonsense.
In any case, regardless, non upgradable RAM is bad. Similar to the keyboard 2016+, 3 years of complete nonsense...
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Unless you’re a 16” MBP.
PSA: Coil Whine on MBP 16
Just got the stock 2.6GHz model and noticed coil whine while the system is booting, and when clicking buttons in System Preferences. This is after the Catalina 10.15.1 Supplemental Update was applied which specifically addresses issues with this model. I don't have time at the moment to...
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I remember the days when I bought the fastest processor you could afford, then I'd upgraded the RAM and the hard drive only when necessary. These days, I make a computer last as long as possible and I won't upgrade my iPhone because I don't want to give Tim my money. Remember when Pro meant Pro? I think that ended when Apple stopped offering Matte displays.
Repairability -1
Innovation -0
New features
A brand new physical escape key!
An old keyboard mechanism
New speakers
Minimal larger screen.
How sad Apple innovation has become if after 3 years this is all they can release...
Are these the exciting products Tim Cook was promising?🤥
Innovation -0
New features
A brand new physical escape key!
An old keyboard mechanism
New speakers
Minimal larger screen.
How sad Apple innovation has become if after 3 years this is all they can release...
Are these the exciting products Tim Cook was promising?
🤥
Battery service is $129 for MacBook Air and non-Retina MBP, $199 retina MBP. Not $700.
Apple needs to EMPHASIZE the "Pro" nomenclature if they're going to continue to solder critical components to the logic board and make it more RELIABLE and LESS LIKELY TO NEED repair...
There, all fixed. Those removable parts are just replaceable, the connectors are a point of failure. It isn't just the size of the unit. There aren't desktops that spend most of their lives in one place. They get carried around in backpacks, left in the trunk of the car in 100 degree summers, and occasionally dropped.
Those connections can fail. I am sure it has never happened to you, but those failures do happen. Plus, a ZIF socket costs more than soldering the processor down. Are Apple laptops not expensive enough for you?
So it is reliability, cost, and size against your ability to upgrade "forever." Only you can't upgrade forever because the chipset from Intel only addresses 64GB of RAM and you might want 128GB in 5 years. The SSD caps out "not fast enough" and the new standard coming next year will allow something no one ever considered. Then the Core i10 will have a different pinout and the next generation of Video cards will PCI Plaid Express. Finally, Lithium Air Batteries will happen and cause us all to rethink that aspect of Laptops just as AMD releases the first Quantum computer processor and throws EVERYTHING we know into the waste bin.
If you are into hot-rodding your computers, any Laptop is a terrible place to start. Are those Yogas really any better? They look like there might be some thermal limitations to them.
how much more 'pro' can you get?
I'd rather be a Pro in the sense that I can focus on just doing the work vs. worrying about the tools
And that is why APPLE is soldering everything, so they can keep ripping all customer off.
You are three years late and a $1.25 short with your comment. Just go buy a damn cable and move one with your life. HDMI is not coming back. DRAM has been soldered to the logic board for 7 years...again three years late and a $1.25 short. Soldered storage for 3 years will cost you two bits.
Did you not pay attention to this sh*t when you bought your mid-2015, but now all of sudden the outrage machine inside you has spun up...?!?! The only difference between the 16” MBP and your 2015 is the soldered storage and no HDMI port.
Good grief, methinks its time for shot of bourbon and some Andy Griffith.