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All iPads I'm angry with Apple, and Disappointed (Safari reloading tabs)

samiznaetekto said:
So, in this particular case, each tab ate about 50MB of RAM. You started with no other apps running, Safari is the only one running. Now, imagine you have other apps running and they use 300MB, you have less than 200MB free, you launch Safari and open these 4 tabs. Now you're in memory starvation situation and tabs will be reloading every time you switch between them.

Is Safari the only app you ever run on your iPad? If yes, then loading 4 tabs without recurring reload is possible, but your usage case is a tiny minority of how most people use their devices.
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I had at least two other apps running (the system manager and App Store) .... But if you want to use safari with 4 tabs opened and 3-4 heavy apps running in background, well, the one with ridiculous expectations are you.
This is A TABLET, not a MacBook Pro ....
There is an app manager, close your apps (or keep alive only the one related to the contents you are browsing, if any), browse safari and when you need re-open the apps.
You are trying hard to demonstrates that the iPad is underpowered, but with the same philosophy I can do the same with a MacPro and 16 Gb of ram: just keep open apps until I saturate the available resources.

This is a tablet, use it as a tablet.
Don't get confused by android tablets pumping specs at every release: they are trying hard to catch up and Samsung approach at the matter is well known.
You have 1 Gb ? We'll going for 3 Gb !
You have a dual core ? We'll use an eight core !
And so on ....

I'd like to have 2 Gb in the next iPad, but just for future, more complex apps. Not just to keep 7 tabs and 5 apps opened at the same time, while I can barely use one.
 
Max(IT) said:
I had at least two other apps running (the system manager and App Store) .... But if you want to use safari with 4 tabs opened and 3-4 heavy apps running in background, well, the one with ridiculous expectations are you.
This is A TABLET, not a MacBook Pro ....
There is an app manager, close your apps (or keep alive only the one related to the contents you are browsing, if any), browse safari and when you need re-open the apps.
You are trying hard to demonstrates that the iPad is underpowered, but with the same philosophy I can do the same with a MacPro and 16 Gb of ram: just keep open apps until I saturate the available resources.

This is a tablet, use it as a tablet.
Don't get confused by android tablets pumping specs at every release: they are trying hard to catch up and Samsung approach at the matter is well known.
You have 1 Gb ? We'll going for 3 Gb !
You have a dual core ? We'll use an eight core !
And so on ....

I'd like to have 2 Gb in the next iPad, but just for future, more complex apps. Not just to keep 7 tabs and 5 apps opened at the same time, while I can barely use one.
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I don't think the expectations are ridiculous. Why shouldn't a tablet be able to handle that? Next year I believe we will see a 2GB model and everything will be better and I would like to see what you will say then...
 
petvas said:
I don't think the expectations are ridiculous. Why shouldn't a tablet be able to handle that? Next year I believe we will see a 2GB model and everything will be better and I would like to see what you will say then...
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Because it's an iPad, not a laptop, and since I can see only one app at time on the little screen, I don't need to have 2-3-4 loaded in background eating resources.
I'd like to have my iPad doing me coffee in the morning, but since it's a tablet that is ridiculous expectations.
Next year will see 2 Gb on iPad , I'm sure , and then we are going to see better apps.
But still on a tablet where I don't need to have all opened in background ....
 
Max(IT) said:
Because it's an iPad, not a laptop, and since I can see only one app at time on the little screen, I don't need to have 2-3-4 loaded in background eating resources.
I'd like to have my iPad doing me coffee in the morning, but since it's a tablet that is ridiculous expectations.
Next year will see 2 Gb on iPad , I'm sure , and then we are going to see better apps.
But still on a tablet where I don't need to have all opened in background ....
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Everybody has different needs and expectations. Having 4-5 safari tabs open should be sth a tablet should handle with no refreshing. I wonder how Android tablets behave in this respect. Can someone comment in that? How is internet browsing on an Android tablet? Do tabs also refresh?
 
petvas said:
Everybody has different needs and expectations. Having 4-5 safari tabs open should be sth a tablet should handle with no refreshing. I wonder how Android tablets behave in this respect. Can someone comment in that? How is internet browsing on an Android tablet? Do tabs also refresh?
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I have a Lenovo tablet similarly specs as my iPad 4, and the browsing experience is worse than iPad in every aspect.
It is quite similar at the browsing experience I have with my works iPad mini (1st gen).
I really can't understand all the complains about iPad browsing the web .... It's brilliant.
 
petvas said:
Everybody has different needs and expectations. Having 4-5 safari tabs open should be sth a tablet should handle with no refreshing. I wonder how Android tablets behave in this respect. Can someone comment in that? How is internet browsing on an Android tablet? Do tabs also refresh?
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I've opened gazillion tabs on Nexus 7.2 and have never seen a tab refresh. Internet browsing on Nexus is fantastic. (Although I don't like Android typography, but am getting used to it.) As fast as Safari, if not faster. There are lots of nice touches, like when you click on a link or an element that is quite small, it magnifies the region which helps fight clicking wrong places. Overall, after being an iSheep for 7 years (and not abandoning the ship), I am VERY IMPRESSED with Android. Android today is not what it used to be.

And with great deals here and there (Dell Venue 8 Pro for $99, Nokia Lumia 520 NO BLOODY CONTRACT for $49-59) it's hard not to look around out of nothing but sheer curiosity, after dealing with this disaster that iOS 7 and 64-bit Safari are.

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Max(IT) said:
I had at least two other apps running (the system manager and App Store) .... But if you want to use safari with 4 tabs opened and 3-4 heavy apps running in background, well, the one with ridiculous expectations are you.
This is A TABLET, not a MacBook Pro ....
There is an app manager, close your apps (or keep alive only the one related to the contents you are browsing, if any), browse safari and when you need re-open the apps.
You are trying hard to demonstrates that the iPad is underpowered, but with the same philosophy I can do the same with a MacPro and 16 Gb of ram: just keep open apps until I saturate the available resources.

This is a tablet, use it as a tablet.
Don't get confused by android tablets pumping specs at every release: they are trying hard to catch up and Samsung approach at the matter is well known.
You have 1 Gb ? We'll going for 3 Gb !
You have a dual core ? We'll use an eight core !
And so on ....

I'd like to have 2 Gb in the next iPad, but just for future, more complex apps. Not just to keep 7 tabs and 5 apps opened at the same time, while I can barely use one.
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Your post does not deserve even a double face palm... because double is not enough. I don't even know where to start, it'll be useless to try to explain anything to you.

Apple loves you. They should have made a special iPad Air for you, with 256MB RAM. Because you'll be happy anyway and defend it with saliva dripping from your mouth. And they can make an extra $1 on a fanatic follower like you. Sad... :(
 
Max(IT) said:
Because it's an iPad, not a laptop, and since I can see only one app at time on the little screen, I don't need to have 2-3-4 loaded in background eating resources.
I'd like to have my iPad doing me coffee in the morning, but since it's a tablet that is ridiculous expectations.
Next year will see 2 Gb on iPad , I'm sure , and then we are going to see better apps.
But still on a tablet where I don't need to have all opened in background ....
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So how come other Android and Windows tablets that sell for much less are able to handle multiple tabs just fine? Looks like Apple is providing you with a crappy browsing experience for 2x the price.
 
petvas said:
I don't think the expectations are ridiculous. Why shouldn't a tablet be able to handle that? Next year I believe we will see a 2GB model and everything will be better and I would like to see what you will say then...
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Whatever the apple party line is. I notice a number of folks doing this. No criticism allowed. Poor User experience is simply the user not holding it incorrectly - no other possible reason exists.
 
samiznaetekto said:
I've opened gazillion tabs on Nexus 7.2 and have never seen a tab refresh. Internet browsing on Nexus is fantastic. (Although I don't like Android typography, but am getting used to it.) As fast as Safari, if not faster. There are lots of nice touches, like when you click on a link or an element that is quite small, it magnifies the region which helps fight clicking wrong places. Overall, after being an iSheep for 7 years (and not abandoning the ship), I am VERY IMPRESSED with Android. Android today is not what it used to be.

And with great deals here and there (Dell Venue 8 Pro for $99, Nokia Lumia 520 NO BLOODY CONTRACT for $49-59) it's hard not to look around out of nothing but sheer curiosity, after dealing with this disaster that iOS 7 and 64-bit Safari are.

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Your post does not deserve even a double face palm... because double is not enough. I don't even know where to start, it'll be useless to try to explain anything to you.

Apple loves you. They should have made a special iPad Air for you, with 256MB RAM. Because you'll be happy anyway and defend it with saliva dripping from your mouth. And they can make an extra $1 on a fanatic follower like you. Sad... :(
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Your post deserve an answer: biased ...
I do agree is absolutely useless that you try to explain anything since someone saying a nexus 7 has a comparable (or better) experience of an iPad can't basically explain nothing to me.
It's sad to be an iSheep .... but I think it is much more sad to be a fandroid.
Go and open gazillions tabs on your Nexus .... there are quite a lot of android based forums out there.
 
alex2792 said:
So how come other Android and Windows tablets that sell for much less are able to handle multiple tabs just fine? Looks like Apple is providing you with a crappy browsing experience for 2x the price.
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Where are those tablets who can handle multiple tabs better than iPad ?
I have an android tablet in my home and it's crappy, very crappy compared to my iPad 4 ...
I used a galaxy tab 3 10" last week and it was crappy compared with my iPad.
 
Max(IT) said:
Where are those tablets who can handle multiple tabs better than iPad ?
I have an android tablet in my home and it's crappy, very crappy compared to my iPad 4 ...
I used a galaxy tab 3 10" last week and it was crappy compared with my iPad.
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Nexus 7, surface 2 and any Windows 8.1 tablet destroys the ipad when it comes to Web browsing. Windows tablets are probably your best bet since IE touch is about a decade ahead of Safari.
 
alex2792 said:
Nexus 7, surface 2 and any Windows 8.1 tablet destroys the ipad when it comes to Web browsing. Windows tablets are probably your best bet since IE touch is about a decade ahead of Safari.
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IE yuck! I don't use it on my Windows 7 PC and I certainly don't use it on a tablet.
 
My Nexus7 doesn't reload tabs, but Chrome is laggy as hell on it (as it is with pretty much all Android devices). Not sure which of those I'd pick to live with if I had a choice...probably reloading tabs.

I won't be getting my rMini until Christmas, but I'm curious if there's some difference between the iPhone and iPad that would make this such a big issue (although I doubt it's really a big issue). I can't say I've ever seen my 5S reload tabs, even with 4 or 5 open and never closing any other apps. I use Chrome rather than Safari though...
 
You know I've never had a chance to use a nexus 7, it does get a lot of praise I might try to test one before I get the ipad, I probably won't go for android but you never know, I might get hooked.
 
petvas said:
I don't think the expectations are ridiculous. Why shouldn't a tablet be able to handle that? Next year I believe we will see a 2GB model and everything will be better and I would like to see what you will say then...
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In a few weeks or sooner we will get iOS 7.1 and all will be fine. Im able to safari open with about 4 tabs and at least 2 other apps before safari reloads. Or I can have one tab open and have 4 or 5 apps running. Yeah theres definitely a difference from my iPad 4 but Its being blown a little out of proportion. Its not like the tablet is unusable.

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samiznaetekto said:
I've opened gazillion tabs on Nexus 7.2 and have never seen a tab refresh. Internet browsing on Nexus is fantastic. (Although I don't like Android typography, but am getting used to it.) As fast as Safari, if not faster. There are lots of nice touches, like when you click on a link or an element that is quite small, it magnifies the region which helps fight clicking wrong places. Overall, after being an iSheep for 7 years (and not abandoning the ship), I am VERY IMPRESSED with Android. Android today is not what it used to be.

And with great deals here and there (Dell Venue 8 Pro for $99, Nokia Lumia 520 NO BLOODY CONTRACT for $49-59) it's hard not to look around out of nothing but sheer curiosity, after dealing with this disaster that iOS 7 and 64-bit Safari are.

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Your post does not deserve even a double face palm... because double is not enough. I don't even know where to start, it'll be useless to try to explain anything to you.

Apple loves you. They should have made a special iPad Air for you, with 256MB RAM. Because you'll be happy anyway and defend it with saliva dripping from your mouth. And they can make an extra $1 on a fanatic follower like you. Sad... :(
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If the iPad doesn't meet your needs then SEE YA! Get another tablet. Apples philosophy is they want to make products that satisfy 90% of the people 90% of the time. Its worked so far. All this complaining will end in a couple weeks when 7.1 is released.
 
jonnyb098 said:
In a few weeks or sooner we will get iOS 7.1 and all will be fine. Im able to safari open with about 4 tabs and at least 2 other apps before safari reloads. Or I can have one tab open and have 4 or 5 apps running. Yeah theres definitely a difference from my iPad 4 but Its being blown a little out of proportion. Its not like the tablet is unusable.

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If the iPad doesn't meet your needs then SEE YA! Get another tablet. Apples philosophy is they want to make products that satisfy 90% of the people 90% of the time. Its worked so far. All this complaining will end in a couple weeks when 7.1 is released.
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I hope you're right from what I've seen 7.1 just improved the issue not fix it. But who knows.
 
alex2792 said:
Nexus 7, surface 2 and any Windows 8.1 tablet destroys the ipad when it comes to Web browsing. Windows tablets are probably your best bet since IE touch is about a decade ahead of Safari.
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Windows 8? Really? At work I had to verify our software would work on a windows 8 tablet and afterwards I wanted to light a bucket filled with puppies on fire I was so aggravated and pissed off. :mad:

I'm sure it had lots of RAM. Didn't matter. It caused me to want to injure living things. Period.
 
s2mikey said:
Windows 8? Really? At work I had to verify our software would work on a windows 8 tablet and afterwards I wanted to light a bucket filled with puppies on fire I was so aggravated and pissed off. :mad:

I'm sure it had lots of RAM. Didn't matter. It caused me to want to injure living things. Period.
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Well I guess some pics people don't have the mental capacity to deal with anything more than an app grid.
 
s2mikey said:
Afterwards I wanted to light a bucket filled with puppies on fire I was so aggravated and pissed off. :mad:

It caused me to want to injure living things. Period.
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So you had a pleasant experience with Windows 8 then? ;):p
 
Jambalaya said:
Sorry to hear that. I am still using my iPad1 every day, had it since just after launch. Fabulous and I always have lots of tabs open. Never used up my 64gb of memory. I've never a second's thought to getting any other tablet.

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ANYTHING - not prone to exaggeration perhaps ?
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Wrong.

Your ipad has 256MB of Memory. The Air only has 1024MB of Ram.

64GB is storage. Nothing to do with the issue at hand.

Open up a Page that has loads and loads of pictures in it, like a forum post, where people have attached images, and watch safari crash on the one tab.

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s2mikey said:
Windows 8? Really? At work I had to verify our software would work on a windows 8 tablet and afterwards I wanted to light a bucket filled with puppies on fire I was so aggravated and pissed off. :mad:

I'm sure it had lots of RAM. Didn't matter. It caused me to want to injure living things. Period.
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It either works or it does not work. Your in the wrong line of work if such a simple task made u so pissed off.
 
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