So, just because you don't have any problems, iOS is bug free? That's a really great logic..
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All iPads I'm angry with Apple, and Disappointed (Safari reloading tabs)
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So, just because you don't have any problems, iOS is bug free? That's a really great logic..
Wow you're sounding like a jerk man.You only have two tabs for one and of course you aren't going to crash or lag with two (I hope not at least) . Besides just because there are bugs doesnt mean everyone has them.
Did I say that ?
There is not such a thing like a bug free os.
iOS has bugs, for sure.
But Safari is not refreshing tabs without a reason like someone is trying to say here ...
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Could you read what I wrote ?
I had two tabs and a lot of apps running in background ....
I can open 3-4 tabs and Safari will work flawlessly ....
If you try to open 7-8 tabs with 3-4 apps running in background the problem is not iOS 7: the problem is you and your expectation about a tablet.
And don't give me the usual "but galaxy note 10.1 has 3 Gb of ram" bs, because I personally saw a galaxy 10.1 lagging like hell with a couple of tabs opened in the browser and a bunch of apps running in background.
Tablets are not laptops.
They have limits you have to take in account.
I'm sure iOS 7, especially in 64-bits flavor, will be better optimized with the time, but it is perfectly usable right now, if you use it correctly.
And who decides what is the correct usage? You? Apple? Where have they specifically stated the correct usage? Why don't they limit the tabs you can have open to 5 of that's what the "correct usage" is?
I have 7 tabs open on my iPhone 4S at all times, I don't switch between everyone constantly and there are some reloads but it works pretty well, and it doesn't reload even as much as I've seen airs and mini 2s reload. Apple does not have a tiny limit ( 8 on ios 6 on my 4s ) on the number of tabs you can have open anymore it should work fine with a good amount of tabs open. If you're a light user and 2 tabs work fine for you, whatever, but I, and most people I know constantly have 7 or more tabs open and I for one expect the device to work with that many tabs especially considering even my 4s works with that many.
I can't believe that you're either so used to or simply don't care about sub par performance that you think something like this is fine.
If Apple can fix this in 7.1 (which I'm lead to believe they will) then that's great, but as of right now the performance just isn't what I would expect from a high priced apple device.
First: you can open as many tabs as you want. Safari will refresh them but it's still working.
Second: I can use a 50cc scooter to drive from Rome to Moscow if you wish. No one decides it's "wrong usage", but it still is illogical and again are "wrong expectations".
You know perfectly well that iPad has 1 Gb of ram, so you know what you can reasonably do and what is beyond resource limits. In the same way you know that your 50cc scooter can do 50 km/h at best and it isn't the best choice to reach Moscow
Ps: sub par performance ? Being an apple user I don't know what is "sub par performance" since apple idevices always are quite top notch in term of performances.
Second: I can use a 50cc scooter to drive from Rome to Moscow if you wish. No one decides it's "wrong usage", but it still is illogical and again are "wrong expectations".
You know perfectly well that iPad has 1 Gb of ram, so you know what you can reasonably do and what is beyond resource limits. In the same way you know that your 50cc scooter can do 50 km/h at best and it isn't the best choice to reach Moscow
Ps: sub par performance ? Being an apple user I don't know what is "sub par performance" since apple idevices always are quite top notch in term of performances.
I don't see how that's an unrealistic expectation. Should a 500 dollar bit of tech not be able to handle 7 tabs well? Should I not be able to go from writing an article on safari to google translate and copy something then go back to safari paste it? I hear that at times people even have safari reload doing this. And what about having a music app playing in the background? That takes up ram too.
I don't feel like I'm being unrealistic at all.
In your example you are speaking about 2-3 tabs (article + article + Google translate) and an app (Music player) in background.
You can do that and more than that on every iPad.
Right now I have three tabs, iTranslate, Music app, Gmail app and safari is working flawlessly. In this moment I have more than 100 mb of free ram (and you have to add for the system monitoring app now
).7 tabs on a tablet seems unrealistic to me, btw in the case you need it, you can do. The worst it can happen is safari reloading them when you switch.
I do agree that iOS 7 needs to be optimized for 64-bit platform like my air, but is far from being unusable.
Btw you HEARD ABOUT that problem ? Where, here in this forum ? Everyone saying that Safari can't handle that is just lying for his purpose ....
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Well I don't know, I mean I don't have the most experience with tablets in the world, I've really only used the surface 2 and the nexus 7 a fair to minor amount but I never experienced the kind of reloading I did on the new iPads, I even used an old mini and it was better in safari (smoother and reloaded less) than the air and the Rmini 2. I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm still probably getting an ipad but I just think they could've done alot better with the tab situation. I'm so used to having 7 tabs up on my iphone, now to be fair alot of times I keep the tabs up as reminders and don't switch to them everyday, I suppose if they are suspended in the background and are not loaded the RAM they take up would be minuscule but not sure.
I hope to go to the apple store either today or tomorrow and purchase an air though (maybe best buy) with today's generous return policies I'm not out much if I dislike it and just want to return it.
"Btw you HEARD ABOUT that problem ? Where, here in this forum ? Everyone saying that Safari can't handle that is just lying for his purpose ...."
Yes, on the forum and when I demoed the iPads at best buy and apple it seemed to be accurate. The iPads I demoed had problems with 5 tabs in safari and no background apps. I'm not sure if that was a fluke thing, it doesn't seem like it, I've demoed at least 5 or 6 ipad airs and r minis over the course of a week or two.
iPad mini first edition has half the ram of the air ....
I'm sure apple is working on iOS 7 and its 64-bit implementation, so we are going to see improvements in the future regarding memory management (from what I read iOS 7.1 b2 is better than 7.0.4).
I'm sure apple is working on iOS 7 and its 64-bit implementation, so we are going to see improvements in the future regarding memory management (from what I read iOS 7.1 b2 is better than 7.0.4).
Yeah I'm aware, and so does my 4s, which is why I was so surprised to see it working better than the new iPads.
I just hope that 7.1 releases soon, as I said If I get an ipad it will likely be in the next couple of days and even with the extended return period I'm doubtful that the 7.1 release will happen within the return timeframe.
Frankly I don't know about 5 tabs ... I usually use 2-3
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I hope to have iOS 7.1 released by the end of January ....
Actually I'm not worry because I'm very happy about my new Air.
I was hoping for 2 Gb of ram too, but it's not a real problem for me.
I'm just kind of worried because if I get an air and can't live with the reloads and have to return it I'm not sure what ill do. I can't think of another tablet that would be as good, I could get a windows tablet I suppose but the whole full windows for me would be good and bad, viruses and all that. I don't think id want android but I could get a N7 to hold me over until the next iPads.
Ugh I'm rambling ill just have to go and get one and try it for myself I suppose, but if its as bad as I'm lead to believe I'm not sure ill keep it, it would be a shame to have to return it with a possible software fix on the horizon but that's just how it will be I suppose.
I think they should just hot fix safari before 7.1 but who knows if they'll do it.
Never tried a nexus 7, but I worked with a Note 10.1 for a week and it's not better than iPad in browsing experience.
With apps and tabs loaded, it start lagging .....
Btw I don't like Android user experience, especially in tablets (smartphones are better) ....
With apps and tabs loaded, it start lagging .....
Btw I don't like Android user experience, especially in tablets (smartphones are better) ....
I had a Samsung phone and let me tell you it's no comparison to stock android, I still don't really like stock android all that much but compared to samsungs garbage software it's a gift from the heavens.
The fact of the matter is with samsungs touchwizz trash no matter how powerful the internals are it Is going to stutter and lag because its trashy and bloated. I literally despised the software on the note 3 I had. Returned it and went back to my 4s.
That would be nice but apple doesn't do releases like that from what I can tell. Seems ya get fairly sizeable updates from them as opposed to quick or hot fixes. In this case though, yeah, they should do it.
Well I just got an ipad! Fingers crossed it works for me! I'm going to try and hold off until Christmas in the spirit of things but I don't know if ill be able to ;p its taunting me from within its beautiful apple sack.That would be nice but apple doesn't do releases like that from what I can tell. Seems ya get fairly sizeable updates from them as opposed to quick or hot fixes. In this case though, yeah, they should do it.
I do think they definitely should hot fix but now that I got one ill be able to try this stuff myself and see for sure how bad it is.
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Google fit 2 GBs of ram in a device that costs half as much as a retina mini. Apple has no excuse - this has ALWAYS been a problem in iOS, since the very first iPhone.
I'm confused. What does's Google's Nexus design have to do with the iPad? Two devices, two different companies, two OSes, two different designs.
The cost of these devices is NOT driven by RAM...
That means it has to mostly be a software issue then. Unless they have loads of faulty ram, which seems highly unlikely.
I'm confused. What does's Google's Nexus design have to do with the iPad? Two devices, two different companies, two OSes, two different designs.
The cost of these devices is NOT driven by RAM...
The fact that the cheaper Nexus managed to fit in two gigabytes of RAM and therefore does not suffer from this problem, and the expensive iPad - which suffered from this problem from the dawn of time (or at least the first iPhone) did not.
And this matters just as much as the iPad outselling the Nexus 1000 to 1.
A lot of good those 2GB of RAM did...
And this matters just as much as the iPad outselling the Nexus 1000 to 1.
A lot of good those 2GB of RAM did...
And what does THAT have to do with anything?
A better RAM chip would cost 5 or so dollars more, and for those 5 dollars the users would've got a MUCH better browsing experience than they have now.