iPhone X I'm not getting a new iPhone until the notch is gone.

Will you buy an iPhone with a notch, or wait until a model arrives with no notch?

  • Not buying an iPhone until the notch is completely gone.

    Votes: 99 26.8%

  • I'll buy an iPhone with a notch.

    Votes: 271 73.2%
  • Total voters
    370
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Perspective:

The iPhone X launched in 2017, and yet they’re still seems to be a ‘notch thread’ that’s either resurrected or re-started to discuss ad nauseam the same thing over and over again.

The great thing about threads like this, they usually really don’t relate to the real world experience for others that don’t care to focus on Notches, when they just want the experience of the iPhone itself.
 
Well the notch is like the flat tire on the Moto 360. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Some are more susceptible to it then others because people are subjective. So until it goes away or gets a less distracting design, we will, more then likely, continue to see these threads.
 
I was against the notch until I actually tried an iPhone X, but in use it does not worry me in the slightest. Face ID works just as reliably as Touch ID.

So both are non-issues...just a matter of personal preference
 
The notch doesn't bother me. If it did, I would have never upgraded to the X and Xs. The rear camera is what bothers me more than anything. I'd love to see Apple produce an iPhone with a rear camera that is flush with the back of the device. I don't need a double, triple, quadruple lens camera on my iPhone. YMMV.
 
FFR said:
Maybe your using it wrong?

No delay on my Xs Max or iPad Pro.
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Compared to my 10.5 iPad Pro and Touch ID , there is a delay using Face ID on my Xr. iPad unlocks faster almost every time and I don’t need to be looking at the screen to do so.
 
Act3 said:
Compared to my 10.5 iPad Pro and Touch ID , there is a delay using Face ID on my Xr. iPad unlocks faster almost every time and I don’t need to be looking at the screen to do so.
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No idea about the xr, I have an iPhone XS Max.
It’s a bit quicker for me to unlock face id on the Xs Max over Touch ID on the iPad Pro 10.5.


You can turn off require attention on your xr in the Face ID pane in system preferences. That would allow you to unlock your Xr without looking directly at it just like your iPad.
 
AppleHaterLover said:
Did we really need 5 pages just so you could reach this informed, eloquent, well-thought and complex conclusion which by the way is exactly the same as before we set off?
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"Did we really need 5 pages just so you could reach this informed, eloquent, well-thought and complex conclusion opinion which by the way is exactly the same as before we set off?"

This is MR, anything goes.:)
 
I hate the notch.

*Of course* it won’t interfere with my use of the phone. Anything else would be a bridge too far, even for Apple. To its credit, the iPhone X is well implemented, but it must be allowed to think it remains a bad idea.

FaceID is the future. I like it. It’s problem is that TouchID is so good, that the difference isn’t that great - yet.

But FaceID does not necessitate a notch. Small bezels would probably shave ~200$ off the asking price and be a more honest design choice. Wouldn’t you lot who don’t even notice the notch anymore, quickly get used to small bezels too?

Of course you get used to the notch. The mere exposure effect is well known. The mere exposure effect isn’t part of Dieter Rams’ ten guidelines for good design for a reason. Isn’t it a a bit of a failure to rely on that effect in order to get away with your design choices? Ask yourself what else can be justified by setting the bar this low. I’m used to my iPhone 7.

It’s not that it adds that much of value either.

The screen is 5.8”. The ‘ears’ are included in that dimension, so the glass-half-full-lot who claim that the notch doesn’t detract from the available screen area can get lost.

Do this experiment: take ten screenshots of ten random apps on your iPhone X. Scroll through them and then tell be that you couldn’t live without the top and bottom 10% of the screen. Most apps just fill this area with colour and call it a day.

Shifting the status bar on a pre-X design up into the horns is a minimal benefit: though the status bar is much taller on the X, it contains less info and utilises surprisingly little of the added area of the ‘ears.’

And then there is the design philosophy.

Pretending to be an all-screen device when it isn’t, is just dishonest. And no, I don’t think being honest about your failure to keep your promise qualifies as honesty.

Nobody will be able to convince me that when Ive lauded the all-screen ideal smartphone design over all these years, the notched iPhone X design was what he had in mind. Of course you can shape the display around the sensors. The problem was always that at some point we had to choose between sensors and display. That elemental choice is the stumbling block to an all-screen design. It always was. Apple has done nothing to bring a solution closer. Pretending is not a solution.
 
booksbooks said:
I have an iPhone X. Had it on launch. I look at all of the evolution happening on the Android side and can see where this is headed: the era of the notch will die. Maybe in a year, maybe two, not sure. But we're close.

The notch is terrible for a number of reasons and needs to die quickly.

What about you: take the poll and vote.
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It's fine and I love the design. My iPhone is a tool so I have more important things to be worrying about.
 
AppleHaterLover said:
Did we really need 5 pages just so you could reach this informed, eloquent, well-thought and complex conclusion which by the way is exactly the same as before we set off?
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You contribute nothing; posting in a way that asks people why they’re posting is meaningless and trite. Did we really need you posting this when you could be doing something else in your life?
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BiggNor said:
I hate the notch.

*Of course* it won’t interfere with my use of the phone. Anything else would be a bridge too far, even for Apple. To its credit, the iPhone X is well implemented, but it must be allowed to think it remains a bad idea.

FaceID is the future. I like it. It’s problem is that TouchID is so good, that the difference isn’t that great - yet.

But FaceID does not necessitate a notch. Small bezels would probably shave ~200$ off the asking price and be a more honest design choice. Wouldn’t you lot who don’t even notice the notch anymore, quickly get used to small bezels too?

Of course you get used to the notch. The mere exposure effect is well known. The mere exposure effect isn’t part of Dieter Rams’ ten guidelines for good design for a reason. Isn’t it a a bit of a failure to rely on that effect in order to get away with your design choices? Ask yourself what else can be justified by setting the bar this low. I’m used to my iPhone 7.

It’s not that it adds that much of value either.

The screen is 5.8”. The ‘ears’ are included in that dimension, so the glass-half-full-lot who claim that the notch doesn’t detract from the available screen area can get lost.

Do this experiment: take ten screenshots of ten random apps on your iPhone X. Scroll through them and then tell be that you couldn’t live without the top and bottom 10% of the screen. Most apps just fill this area with colour and call it a day.

Shifting the status bar on a pre-X design up into the horns is a minimal benefit: though the status bar is much taller on the X, it contains less info and utilises surprisingly little of the added area of the ‘ears.’

And then there is the design philosophy.

Pretending to be an all-screen device when it isn’t, is just dishonest. And no, I don’t think being honest about your failure to keep your promise qualifies as honesty.

Nobody will be able to convince me that when Ive lauded the all-screen ideal smartphone design over all these years, the notched iPhone X design was what he had in mind. Of course you can shape the display around the sensors. The problem was always that at some point we had to choose between sensors and display. That elemental choice is the stumbling block to an all-screen design. It always was. Apple has done nothing to bring a solution closer. Pretending is not a solution.
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Agreed. Watch all of the threads on MacRumors when Apple finally releases a notchless phone. “Wow! Big screen to body ratio in the iPhone XXX.” “Goodbye notch, RIP.” “Who can’t stand the notch after seeing the new iPhone XXX?”.......

Meanwhile, in Android land, there are phones that have 95% screen to body ratios and no notch.
 
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