Seeing as the majority of smartphone users don’t own a phone that has a notch, I think you’re right.
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iPhone X I'm not getting a new iPhone until the notch is gone.
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When out and about I see very very very few iPhones with notches in them. This is not to say I don't see a lot of iPhones, just very few with notches. Thing is, I feel its more a reflection of price rather than not liking a notch.
While I've never had a notched phone I've used my mother's iPhone X quite extensively and personally didn't mind it. I far from liked it but didn't really feel it got in the way of anything, rather, one just lost a chunk of the top status bar. One thing to note though is that its possible that one's acceptance of the notch may well be related to how much one uses their phone in landscape mode. It definitely makes a difference in landscape for me… something I don't much do myself.
FWIW, when it comes to symmetry in the standard, vertical, mode I find the hole punch of the Galaxy S10 to actually be in some ways worse than a notch. As I use a flat black background (predominantly for simplicity and to extend battery runtime) the camera in the top right often disappears completely leaving the battery/wifi/LTE indicators that would otherwise be in the top right corner, out of the top right corner, which sometimes looks weird. I'd probably be better off with a background where I can see the camera instead. When watching video I do find the hole punch significantly better than a notch… something that I mostly do on a tablet.
So its all a tradeoff as to what a manufacturer makes more important. And Apple puts a high importance on Face ID and its superior abilities. Samsung, and others, not so much.
Completely disingenuous and insulting. I neither like or dislike the notch. Don’t need to justify it nor is it any kind of handicap. That’s just moronic. It’s simply there. In the future it will go away but right now, it’s part of the hardware.
How do you live with virtually every tv channel having those distracting logos and announcements showing or popping up at the bottom of the screen? Must make you miserable whenever you watch.
No. Apple simply settled, when settling isn't good enough in this business, especially when you have billions of dollars and thousands of engineers and designers. The notch is a sign of the times, just like the crap keyboards on the MBPs.
The mindset can't be "We accept this, this is it, this is how it HAS to be". No it doesn't. Android phone-makers are showing innovation with a full edge-to-edge screen and popup camera. There are different ways of solving this, like innovating on transparent components that are embedded in the glass, or miniaturizing the sensors and camera to the point where it fits in a thin bezel, etc.
In earlier posts I've addressed the real problems that the notch creates: it's not just aesthetic.
I'd rather have a popup camera and sensors with an edge-to-edge screen than a notch. The popup camera and sensors isn't as ideal as component miniaturization or transparency, but it solves two key problems: the presence of a notch and the consequences of this and software that uses the front-facing camera to spy.
For all you notch supporters, please pressure TV and smartwatch companies to make all of their devices with a notch. Actually, why shouldn't everything have a notch! Even car windshields! And sunglasses!
Okay, our perceptions are different. I’d rather have the notch, than a pop-up camera for example. The “real problems “ you cite are not issues to me. As always, YMMV when discussing subjective ideas.
I don’t see anyone outside of a tech forum discuss, or remotely even care about the notch. It really does amaze me the amount of in-depth discussion about something so minimal on a site like this, but then I have to remind myself, MacRumors doesn’t reflect the reality of the real world that consumers just use the phone as a tool, no one has conversations and dissects every piece of the iPhone outside sites like this. The notch is and always will be a non-issue.
That is a totally different animal. Those TV douchebag logos, etc. are the lowest scum on earth. At least the damn notch does not appear, disappear, and come back as something else.
I’ll finish off your last sentence:
“The notch is and always will be a non-issue” to people who claim it’s a non-issue until there’s a new iPhone with no notch.
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Yeah I think the classic iPhone is still the most widely used and the notch isn’t a big deal. I personally feel it looks ugly from a design point of view but it wouldn’t put me off having a phone with one as it’s a tool for me anyway. You’re right that price is more of an issue with modern iPhones than notches.
.... I guess I’ll just keep living in reality now realizing the notch is/never will be an issue outside a tech site, while you’re fantasizing about the future with an iPhone that does not have one, I’d say my side is a more realistic view at this junction.
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notch looks horrible and iPhone is BY FAR the worst.
Look at OnePlus 7 Pro on the left - it's obviously possible to make a beautiful screen.
I wonder what excuses Cook will present in October...
You mean September, not October. [That’s when the fall keynote is]. Also, Cook won’t be making excuses for the notch, because they won’t be talking about the notch during the iPhone keynote, likely more pertinent things/advancements with the iPhone.
It could be a lot simpler just through software. A setting to flip on or off. All Apple needs to do is black out the two top ears permanently so the top of the screen appears solid black, hiding the notch, yet alowing the existing icons to remain. Do this so that apps can't go into the "ears" area of the screen.
But noooooooooo—
They're so in love with their belly button, that that dreadful cutout remains. It remains also because they're in love with the stupid rounded corners of the screen and blocking out the ears with black would create square corners on the top with round corners on the bottom.
This design (notch) reminds me of the 2013 Mac Pro where they designed themselves into a corner.
But noooooooooo—
They're so in love with their belly button, that that dreadful cutout remains. It remains also because they're in love with the stupid rounded corners of the screen and blocking out the ears with black would create square corners on the top with round corners on the bottom.
This design (notch) reminds me of the 2013 Mac Pro where they designed themselves into a corner.
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I think it's more absurd to compare these large devices to a tiny phone. Of course the bigger ones can eliminate the notch. There's only so much real estate they have to work with on an iPhone.
Are the comments more from people that actually have a phone with the notch or emotional response to from people who don't actually use a phone with a notch on a daily basis? Coming from Samsung phones to the Iphone x myself, that notch didn't bother me one bit. At no point in my usage did I think god damn this mfing notch. lol. Like I don't get the rage. It has 0 impact on how I consume any media on it.
notch looks horrible and iPhone is BY FAR the worst.
Look at OnePlus 7 Pro on the left - it's obviously possible to make a beautiful screen.
I wonder what excuses Cook will present in October...
From the photo it is easy to see which one is the iPhone due to the notch. It is an identifier.
Remember when phones had huge bezels that there was room for the company logo on the front? That was tacky. Same with this notch.
Nah I still don't get this rage for the notch. What you view on screen is the same real estate. That notch area only contains either notifications or iphones case the camera and speaker and flanked by notifications/icons. It's the same unused space as far as when you're viewing the primary screen.
I mean is it purely aesthetics for you people that have an issue with it? I mean I guess it's not symmetrically even. But then the same points I made hold true. What you view as far as content on the main screen still holds true. And the notched area is info that you're not constantly looking at.
So when Apple comes out with a phone that has no notch I assume you won’t be buying one: why fix something that isn’t broken!
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notch looks horrible and iPhone is BY FAR the worst.
Look at OnePlus 7 Pro on the left - it's obviously possible to make a beautiful screen.
I wonder what excuses Cook will present in October...
Love it!
Pop up camera is a worse compromise than the notch. Horses for courses as they say.
notch looks horrible and iPhone is BY FAR the worst.
Look at OnePlus 7 Pro on the left - it's obviously possible to make a beautiful screen.
I wonder what excuses Cook will present in October...
Uh, do the other phones in that comparison photo have face ID, a camera, a speaker, microphone, ambient light sensor, etc?
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