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Will you buy an iPhone with a notch, or wait until a model arrives with no notch?

  • Not buying an iPhone until the notch is completely gone.

    Votes: 99 26.8%
  • I'll buy an iPhone with a notch.

    Votes: 271 73.2%

  • Total voters
    370
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Face ID adds a lot of value.
And from a design perspective allows you to have more screen, edge to edge/corner to corner.

This is absolutely true. I'm loving Face ID. Was a bit tired when I wrote that piece.
 
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Thought I’d be bothered by the notch, but I rarely even notice or think about it.

The camera bumps are another issue altogether. One of my reasons for going with the XR was because I like the single camera (would prefer it didn’t stick out, but I get it).

I will NOT be upgrading this year if that hideous camera bump mess is on the new phones. Now THAT is horrid!
 
They just need to add the battery percentage but back in as it’s very useful. It would be good if you could replace the battery illustration with this figure in the settings? Listen Apple.
 
And a camera that pops up is not something apple will or should do

It’s more likely to break than anything else

It’s cool but not practical


there is a video they made showing the durability of that pop up camera, over 300K cycles of it opening and closing over a 12 hour period. Sure the video was made from OnePlus but I doubt "it's more likely to break than anything else"

It is also $670, very practical depending on who you ask. And with a 90 hz OLED display. Can almost get two of them for price of a max.. If it ran iOS, I'd get one .
 
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I've had an iPhone X since launch and have never minded the notch. Sure it'd be great if the area was also display but I see it as a worthwhile compromise for all of the Face ID tech.
 
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And a camera that pops up is not something apple will or should do

It’s more likely to break than anything else

It’s cool but not practical

That’s a lame outlook. It is functional. And the point is to be innovative. It’s ironic how inside the box, it says, “Never settle”. That’s a mantra that basically Apple and its userbase had. That seems to have faded somewhat. To just accept the notch and think there’s nothing else is a sign of how far we’ve drifted from “think different”.
 
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I'll never own a notched iPhone unless there's no other choice years from now. It looks like garbage (to me).
Would anyone accept a giant notch in their TV screen or computer monitor?
How about a gigantic notch on the movie screen at your local theater? How about a notch on imax theater screens?
Notched iMac?
Notched iPad?
Notched notebook computer?
You can see how absurd it is.
 
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I'll never own a notched iPhone unless there's no other choice years from now. It looks like garbage (to me).
Would anyone accept a giant notch in their TV screen or computer monitor?
How about a gigantic notch on the movie screen at your local theater? How about a notch on imax theater screens?
Notched iMac?
Notched iPad?
Notched notebook computer?
You can see how absurd it it is.

I've been saying the same thing. The notch doesn't belong on a media device. Add etch a sketch and magic slates to your list too. LOL. no notch on those.
 
I'll never own a notched iPhone unless there's no other choice years from now. It looks like garbage (to me).
Would anyone accept a giant notch in their TV screen or computer monitor?
How about a gigantic notch on the movie screen at your local theater? How about a notch on imax theater screens?
Notched iMac?
Notched iPad?
Notched notebook computer?
You can see how absurd it it is.

Exactly. it blows my mind how Apple apologists act and see things. As soon as Apple eliminates the notch, many of the people on here will flock to the new notchless phone and never look back.
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Wondering what your main reason is for not liking the notch? Missing screen space?

  • The notch creates asymmetry both physically and on the screen. One consequence of this is that there actually becomes a real top and bottom to the device, both of which are different. Try turning the iPhone upside down and see what happens: applications are blocked from rotating 180 degrees and will only go from top notch to landscape and back again. Or, try using the phone in landscape mode say, surfing the Web. On the left or right (depending how you hold it), the notch sticks out and covers content on the screen, whereas the other side is clean.
  • The notch disrupts the actual content on the screen. Try zooming into a photo, for instance. The notch covers that part of a photo. Or open up Maps and see what happens: the top chunk of the iPhone including just below the notch is blurred out, making all of that area unusable, shrinking the real usable area of the screen.
The notch is absurd, and will be viewed as such in the future when technology is advanced enough to have it killed. It's just as absurd on a phone as it is on an iMac, TV, smartwatch, etc. The only reason it exists is because Apple seemed to have no other way of getting cameras and sensors on the front of the phone while at the same time having an edge-to-edge screen.
 
I absolutely hated the notch, couldn’t sleep, couldn’t go to work, so I put a strip of electrical tape across the top of the display. Problem solved!
 
Exactly. it blows my mind how Apple apologists act and see things. As soon as Apple eliminates the notch, many of the people on here will flock to the new notchless phone and never look back.
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  • The notch creates asymmetry both physically and on the screen. One consequence of this is that there actually becomes a real top and bottom to the device, both of which are different. Try turning the iPhone upside down and see what happens: applications are blocked from rotating 180 degrees and will only go from top notch to landscape and back again. Or, try using the phone in landscape mode say, surfing the Web. On the left or right (depending how you hold it), the notch sticks out and covers content on the screen, whereas the other side is clean.
  • The notch disrupts the actual content on the screen. Try zooming into a photo, for instance. The notch covers that part of a photo. Or open up Maps and see what happens: the top chunk of the iPhone including just below the notch is blurred out, making all of that area unusable, shrinking the real usable area of the screen.
The notch is absurd, and will be viewed as such in the future when technology is advanced enough to have it killed. It's just as absurd on a phone as it is on an iMac, TV, smartwatch, etc. The only reason it exists is because Apple seemed to have no other way of getting cameras and sensors on the front of the phone while at the same time having an edge-to-edge screen.
I love the distinctive look the notch gives to the phone. The other considerations you listed in your post don’t impede my use and enjoyment of my max.
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Exactly. it blows my mind how Apple apologists act and see things. As soon as Apple eliminates the notch, many of the people on here will flock to the new notchless phone and never look back.
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  • The notch creates asymmetry both physically and on the screen. One consequence of this is that there actually becomes a real top and bottom to the device, both of which are different. Try turning the iPhone upside down and see what happens: applications are blocked from rotating 180 degrees and will only go from top notch to landscape and back again. Or, try using the phone in landscape mode say, surfing the Web. On the left or right (depending how you hold it), the notch sticks out and covers content on the screen, whereas the other side is clean.
  • The notch disrupts the actual content on the screen. Try zooming into a photo, for instance. The notch covers that part of a photo. Or open up Maps and see what happens: the top chunk of the iPhone including just below the notch is blurred out, making all of that area unusable, shrinking the real usable area of the screen.
The notch is absurd, and will be viewed as such in the future when technology is advanced enough to have it killed. It's just as absurd on a phone as it is on an iMac, TV, smartwatch, etc. The only reason it exists is because Apple seemed to have no other way of getting cameras and sensors on the front of the phone while at the same time having an edge-to-edge screen.
I love the distinctive look the notch gives to the phone. The other considerations you listed in your post don’t impede my use and enjoyment of my max.
 
The notch is absurd, and will be viewed as such in the future when technology is advanced enough to have it killed. It's just as absurd on a phone as it is on an iMac, TV, smartwatch, etc. The only reason it exists is because Apple seemed to have no other way of getting cameras and sensors on the front of the phone while at the same time having an edge-to-edge screen.

I agree it absolutely will be viewed as a compromise and a mistake in the future. @BiggNor mentioned in post #122 the exposure effect as not being a good design principle. There are a large number of owners with notch phones that have simply gotten used to it and are now accepting it. I've seen such comments here on the forum numerous times, and heard them outside this forum.

Yes, there are some people that honestly don't mind the notch, many more that simply get used to it, but for many of us the notch is an unsightly design blemish that can't be accepted. That is really not a good place for Apple to be given the downturn in iPhone sales. The sooner Apple figure out their notch design dilemma the better for them.
 
I love the distinctive look the notch gives to the phone. The other considerations you listed in your post don’t impede my use and enjoyment of my max.
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I love the distinctive look the notch gives to the phone. The other considerations you listed in your post don’t impede my use and enjoyment of my max.

The notch is absurd, and will be viewed as such in the future when technology is advanced enough to have it killed. It's just as absurd on a phone as it is on an iMac, TV, smartwatch, etc. The only reason it exists is because Apple seemed to have no other way of getting cameras and sensors on the front of the phone while at the same time having an edge-to-edge screen.
 
I always thought the notch was absurd. I get the people who "like it" because well... it's much easier to justify a handicap in design when you've got the latest and greatest iPhone out at the moment.

It will be removed eventually and the phones with notches will all age terribly. The 6/7/8 series phones still look great even with giant bezels because there's no "work around" notch for an unnecessary problem.

If they made an 8 Plus body, with stainless steel bands and an OLED display without any notches... oh boy...
 
The notch is absurd, and will be viewed as such in the future when technology is advanced enough to have it killed. It's just as absurd on a phone as it is on an iMac, TV, smartwatch, etc. The only reason it exists is because Apple seemed to have no other way of getting cameras and sensors on the front of the phone while at the same time having an edge-to-edge screen.
So then the notch really isn’t absurd. It’s a design decision that in apple’s viewpoint, provided a solution that was the best of the worst possible solution into integrating electronics into the phone.

That said I love the distinctive look the notch gives the phone.
 
So then the notch really isn’t absurd. It’s a design decision that in apple’s viewpoint, provided a solution that was the best of the worst possible solution into integrating electronics into the phone.

That said I love the distinctive look the notch gives the phone.

You fall into the group that genuinely like the notch. I'm envious of you guys. :) But realize that there are many people that fall onto a scale of opinion somewhere between - just became accustomed to having a notch over time, to those that really dislike it.

I'm in the camp of really hating it. Of the phone vendors that use some type of cut-out for sensors in the screen area, Apple has the most unappealing implementation, IMO. It's far bigger than it needs to be, and Apple made the decision to not minimize its visual impact through OS design. Had Apple implemented a black area within the "ears", limiting that area to notification icons, it would have been a far less abrupt implementation. While I would rather never have a notch when a small bezel would work, I would have accepted the OS workaround, and would even venture to say there would be far less resistance to it in general.

Can you accept that the design is very polarizing, and thus not the best move Apple could have made from a design standpoint?
 
I have an iPhone X. Had it on launch. I look at all of the evolution happening on the Android side and can see where this is headed: the era of the notch will die. Maybe in a year, maybe two, not sure. But we're close.

The notch is terrible for a number of reasons and needs to die quickly.

What about you: take the poll and vote.

I don't think I've noticed the notch outside of the first day I owned my Max. Best phone I've ever used. The notch doesn't even matter.
 
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