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burntoutjoy said:
Easy. How are your eyes arranged on your face? One big one in the middle, or two side by side? Widescreen makes much more sense - peripheral vision acts horizontally, not vertically. And anyway, the whole 'we work with things that scroll vertically' argument doesn't wash - we have many easy ways to scroll vertically, so it shouldn't be an issue. If you have a 16:9 screen you can make better use of space by scrolling windows that can be scrolled, and keeping other things to the side.
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I agree. The Question should be why do people still buy Fullscreen movies? I don't get it. You have to narrow the scene and leave out stuff from the oringal version!

Anyways, I hope an HD monitor is true in the 17" because the Radeon M9700 could easily handle it - heck it's the only laptop out there that can drive any 30" DualLink Display
 
Why do you guys think that apple would upgrade the ibook to the 9600mobile? That's last years yech and if they knew what they were doing they would upgrade to the x300 which is about as fast as the 9600mobile (atleast the 128mb x300 is).(The 64mb x300 has a 64-bit memory interface compaired to the 128mb's 128bit interface.)

I would cross my fingers for a x300 even though a 64mb 5200ultra or 64mb 9200 seems more likely.
 
x300 is pci express, the g4 dose not support pci express, the rumor sights that the gpu will be updated with an ATI chip the only candidates being a 64MB 9200 or a 64MB 9600 the former is not likely as it's only marginally better than a 32MB card and dose not support core image and to change it to somthing so minor is silly, thus the 9600 is the only option, also the 9600 kicks the crap out of the x300.
 
weezer160 said:
I agree. The Question should be why do people still buy Fullscreen movies? I don't get it. You have to narrow the scene and leave out stuff from the oringal version!

Anyways, I hope an HD monitor is true in the 17" because the Radeon M9700 could easily handle it - heck it's the only laptop out there that can drive any 30" DualLink Display
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i don't have a wide screen tv and at the same time i don't want to see a microscopic wide screen version of the movie. so i buy the full screen version. they zoom to the interesting part of the picture anyway. when i buy in 5 years a hd widescreen tv i always can buy the dvd's again as widescreen versions (the few that are worth the money).

buying a widescreen tv today is to expensive and they all are a compromise in one way or another. in 5 years there will be affordable tv's with all the features available. till then i'm happy with full screen.

the switch to widescreen will be slow because i believe many people think like i do in that matter.
 
Hey there's a good idea. Apple can update the graphics card in the iBook to be the same or better than the 12" PowerBook :confused:

Will that then mean it will be called the Power-iBook?

For Apple to bring the iBook in line with the PowerBook is just plain stupid
 
burntoutjoy said:
Easy. How are your eyes arranged on your face?.
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My eyes are about 3 inches apart on my face. My 4x3 monitor is about 3 inches wider than it is tall.

Sounds like a perfect match!
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Counter example:

Why is newspaper and magazine text in columns, not "widescreen"?
 
Rootman said:
Counter to counter example:
Why do we read left to right instead of vertically? :p
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Because it's the way that we were taught. Always more than one way of ding things. :D
 
Rootman said:
Counter to counter example:
Why do we read left to right instead of vertically? :p
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Not everyone reads horizontally or left to right as we do in English. But even if we stick to English, an always-perfect monitor shape doesn't exist. At any given time, some people are reading/editing portrait-orientation documents (most MS Word documents, most PDF files, etc.), some people are watching (or editing) movies, and some people are managing photo albums, which could be arranged in any shape at all.

Only with a very large (expensive) monitor can you edit a full page portrait document on a wide screen. But movies and even the iTunes program are better with wide screens.

So the most appropriate shape for your screen depends on what type of activity you are doing, and that can change from day to day, hour to hour, or minute to minute. Maybe we all need those monitors you can rotate!
 
AidenShaw said:
My eyes are about 3 inches apart on my face. My 4x3 monitor is about 3 inches wider than it is tall.

Sounds like a perfect match!
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You're forgetting the other dimension, and the fact that eyes don't see just what's straight in frontof them. My whole point was about peripheral vision, something that 4:3 displays don't take advantage of.

AidenShaw said:
Counter example:
Why is newspaper and magazine text in columns, not "widescreen"?
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Easier to handle? I certainly wouldn't like holding a 'widescreen' paper. There are other considerations besides layout, you know. You can't go comparing things that have completely different considerations to bear in mind. A better comparison would be cinemas ('movie theaters'), which use a widescreen format.
 
There is NOTHING more annoying than having your top-of-the-line powerbook eclipsed by a low-end iBook less than one year after you purchased it.

Bought a 17 inch 1.33 Ghz PB in May 2004 (for three grand, mind you).

These dman pricinf structures need to be rethought. Its a huge ripoff, especially with the way these computeres go out of date and (especially with apple) usually have some horrible glitch or hardware error within two years.
 
burntoutjoy said:
My whole point was about peripheral vision, something that 4:3 displays don't take advantage of.
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Neither does a widescreen display that you'd put on a laptop. Nor, for that matter, does a widescreen you'd usually use for a computer. Once we start talking the 30" studio displays we might be getting there.

~J
 
Trowaman said:
In the month of April we have . . .
iMacs (faster, more standard RAM, and possible HD screen)
eMacs (faster)
iBooks (faster)
Powerbook (HD for 17")
Powermac (3 ghz with blu-ray)
TIGER
FCP 5
Shake 4
DVD Studio 4
Motion 2
New Pro Video App
New pro Audio App

Am I missing anything? Asteroid? iPod Bluetooth? mac mimi RAM increases? Nuclear powered 42,378 button mouse? :rolleyes:
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I don't believe we're seeing the HD PBs or the new PowerMac until June actually.
 
Kagetenshi said:
Neither does a widescreen display that you'd put on a laptop. Nor, for that matter, does a widescreen you'd usually use for a computer. Once we start talking the 30" studio displays we might be getting there.
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Yes they do - you can only focus sharply on a very small area in the centre of your retina; peripheral vision is always important unless we're talking about a 2" screen.
 
burntoutjoy said:
Yes they do - you can only focus sharply on a very small area in the centre of your retina; peripheral vision is always important unless we're talking about a 2" screen.
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Well then, if you're talking that broad a definition of peripheral vision, I guess 4:3 screens use it after all, don't they?

~J
 
Could the iMac HD be an actual HDTV monitor with tuner and DVR functionality?

If it was 23" this could serve as a den/family room TV and computer...but Steve doesn't like the whole convergence thing. And it would cost around $3000.
 
~loserman~ said:
I don't know about you.....
But I've been seeing em in my mind for at least 6 months. :p
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Well anything to replace the last rev of PBs would be nice. The current rev is awful. The trackpad sucks, the graphics cards got no real improvement and I don't know about you, but Bluetooth has always been useless to me so the speed bump on that does nothing for me. I'm glad I bought the 1.33 rev of the PB 12. That was the longest lived rev in a long time, and one of the best ever.
 
Kagetenshi said:
Well then, if you're talking that broad a definition of peripheral vision, I guess 4:3 screens use it after all, don't they?
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I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying widescreen displays make use of it more.
 
burntoutjoy said:
Yes they do - you can only focus sharply on a very small area in the centre of your retina; peripheral vision is always important unless we're talking about a 2" screen.
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peripheral vision as a justification for a widescreen computerscreen is plain nonsense. You have data on your screen. When you start editing/ using a certain part of it you're focus will move towards it. You are really confusing a television screen with a computer screen. On a television screen peripheral vision counts, but on a computerscreen it's about how you arrange your data on the screen and for by far the most applications it's the 4:5 ration that let's you use the screen in the most efficient fashion. I'm not only talking about text-based content.
 
Bern said:
Hey there's a good idea. Apple can update the graphics card in the iBook to be the same or better than the 12" PowerBook :confused:

Will that then mean it will be called the Power-iBook?

For Apple to bring the iBook in line with the PowerBook is just plain stupid
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Someone is bitter they bought the 12 inch PB.

I told you this rev of the PB sucks.
 
minimax said:
peripheral vision as a justification for a widescreen computerscreen is plain nonsense. You have data on your screen. When you start editing/ using a certain part of it you're focus will move towards it. You are really confusing a television screen with a computer screen. On a television screen peripheral vision counts, but on a computerscreen it's about how you arrange your data on the screen and for by far the most applications it's the 4:5 ration that let's you use the screen in the most efficient fashion. I'm not only talking about text-based content.
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I'm sorry, I must have missed your justification because it doesn't seem you're actually giving any reasons. Yes, it can depend on personal preference, but most of the time, I see desktop 'extras' on the side of people's main set of windows, rather than above or below. A lot of people (including me) have their docks on the side - if something bounces at me, I can see it in my peripheral vision. It's simply the way most people work, because we see things out of the side of our eyes easier than vertically. Widescreen means you can have a more holistic view of the screen even if you're only focussed on a small part of it. 4:3 doesn't capitalise on our innate properties.
 
Yeah right you click a button or read a line from your peripheral vision.
If you can't read my justification read again, it's clearly there. You use data on your computer screen most of the times. Not for games perhaps but I can't think of many applications besides games that would make proper use of your 'peripheral' factor. In fact, when I use CAD / VIZ I can imagine using peripheral vision to a certain point, but I don't need my peripheral in wide screen but all around, preferably 3:4 and not the 1:2 that's left with all the toolbars etc. with a WS.
 
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