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i.m waiting for my new iMac [on or before 10/5 STILL!!!] and just had a question...i know from my old powerbook that the internal drive makes a loud crunching noise when taking in CDs and can be quite loud copying data et al to CDs as well...i was wondering if the new iMac.s internal drive was like this as well?
Christien.
i.m waiting for my new iMac [on or before 10/5 STILL!!!] and just had a question...i know from my old powerbook that the internal drive makes a loud crunching noise when taking in CDs and can be quite loud copying data et al to CDs as well...i was wondering if the new iMac.s internal drive was like this as well?
Christien.
those Cinebench scores are pretty sweet. Just for comparison's sake, here is a IBM S50 2.6ghz P4 with 512mb RAM on XP Pro:
Processor : S50
MHz : 2600
Number of CPUs : 1
Operating System : 512
Graphics Card : Intel X-treme
Resolution : 1024x768
Color Depth : 32-bit
****************************************************
Rendering (Single CPU): 253 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): --- CB-CPU
Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 254 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 764 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 704 CB-GFX
OpenGL Speedup: 3.01
This means that the new iMac is as fast as a P4 2.6ghz system. so much for all those people who scream that Macs are not as fast as PC's. Although there are faster P4's out there, most consumer PC's are around the 2.6 - 2.8 ghz P4 level at this time. Hopefully Apple will update the G5 to 2 - 2.2 ghz with the next iMac update.
What impresses me most is that IBM is able to keep up with intel even though the chip is 800mhz slower. All while keeping the iMac silent as a pin drop. Man, I gotta get one now.
Processor : S50
MHz : 2600
Number of CPUs : 1
Operating System : 512
Graphics Card : Intel X-treme
Resolution : 1024x768
Color Depth : 32-bit
****************************************************
Rendering (Single CPU): 253 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): --- CB-CPU
Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 254 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 764 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 704 CB-GFX
OpenGL Speedup: 3.01
This means that the new iMac is as fast as a P4 2.6ghz system. so much for all those people who scream that Macs are not as fast as PC's. Although there are faster P4's out there, most consumer PC's are around the 2.6 - 2.8 ghz P4 level at this time. Hopefully Apple will update the G5 to 2 - 2.2 ghz with the next iMac update.
What impresses me most is that IBM is able to keep up with intel even though the chip is 800mhz slower. All while keeping the iMac silent as a pin drop. Man, I gotta get one now.
These are good cinebench results, but i was hoping for better. We also have to keep in mind that 64 bit systems are not yet optimized and the cinebench test that corbin took was not G5 optimized as well. Maybe we will see better results when we have G5 optimization. But, as we Mac fans know, its the user experience that counts not whether or not we can squeeze out another second against a P4.
new iMacs getting 100 - 110 in Xbench scores????
I just had a look at the xbench scores for the new iMacs (search by unknown type, sort by date) and it seems that people are getting around 100 - 110 scores!!! That's pretty low, indeed... Not that xbench is a definitive test, but still...
http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/compa...eTypeID=0&sort=date#tableTop&minVersion=1.1.3
I wonder in which configurations were those tests done (i.e. memory, performance settings...)
I just had a look at the xbench scores for the new iMacs (search by unknown type, sort by date) and it seems that people are getting around 100 - 110 scores!!! That's pretty low, indeed...
Not that xbench is a definitive test, but still...http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/compa...eTypeID=0&sort=date#tableTop&minVersion=1.1.3
I wonder in which configurations were those tests done (i.e. memory, performance settings...)
Crucial.com recommends the same memory for both the iMac G5 and the PowerMac G5 2.5 DP -- PC 3200 DDR memory.corbin_a2 said:
My guess would be not order RAM from 1-800-4 Memory. I would open up the back of that mother and look at what type of RAM is in it. The RAM should have a sticker that tells what kind it is. I know that on Crucial's website they say that the RAM for both the powermac and imac is PC3200 CL3. I know when I order mine, I'm getting the stock 256 and buying some better RAM.corbin_a2 said:
If I were to guess I would get PC3200 CL3 512MB, that should match the stick you have and you'll be running dual channel.
tiselday said:I just had a look at the xbench scores for the new iMacs (search by unknown type, sort by date) and it seems that people are getting around 100 - 110 scores!!! That's pretty low, indeed...
http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/compa...eTypeID=0&sort=date#tableTop&minVersion=1.1.3
I wonder in which configurations were those tests done (i.e. memory, performance settings...)
I heard (but don't know if it's true) that there was an issue between xbench and the new iMacs such that it wasn't providing accurate test results and the xbench program required an update. I do see that xbench is not correctly "seeing" that the iMac's cache runs at full processor speed (test results show cache speed at 1.15ghz). Hopefully those low scores will go up with an xbench update. If you scroll down on the xbench page you'll see an entry that was made from the Paris Expo floor (called "Apple Expo") which scored 156 on xbench--that seems to me about right for a 1.8ghz g5 iMac.
The stock 17" 1.6 just arrived about 15 minutes ago.
Plugged it in and it's running software update right now.
Some thoughts. It is deceptively heavy. The scene from Jurrasic Park came to mind when I first lifted it out of the box. "Is it heavy?" "Then it's expensive." Just like when I got my G5, I was worried about what it looked like in pictures. But when I finally had it out of the box it was impressive.
One thing that may be nice to tweak in the future models is the border around the screen is quite reflective.
Other than that it is exactly what I expected it to be. Plug it in and it works.
Plugged it in and it's running software update right now.
Some thoughts. It is deceptively heavy. The scene from Jurrasic Park came to mind when I first lifted it out of the box. "Is it heavy?" "Then it's expensive." Just like when I got my G5, I was worried about what it looked like in pictures. But when I finally had it out of the box it was impressive.
One thing that may be nice to tweak in the future models is the border around the screen is quite reflective.
Other than that it is exactly what I expected it to be. Plug it in and it works.
I think that XBench has flaws in it which is why i refuse to use it. The variables in it just make it unreliable. When you have two computers exactly the same and see points swaying+/- 75 points, that benchmark is not a good one.
For those who have received their macs, could you comment on the noise level in more detail. How does the hard drive sound? Can you hear it over the rest of the machine while accessing and writing data?
Anyone who opened the machine know who the manufacturer of the hard drives are? Thanks.
Anyone who opened the machine know who the manufacturer of the hard drives are? Thanks.
Stability
To anybody that has theirs yet - how STABLE is it, physically? I swear the stand just looks too puny to keep it from falling right over if you give it a nudge.
Regardless, I've waiting on mine as well -
iMac17G5/1.8
1GB PC400 DIMM Module
160g HD
Primary use will be recording/editing audio from my my modular synth in my studio
To anybody that has theirs yet - how STABLE is it, physically? I swear the stand just looks too puny to keep it from falling right over if you give it a nudge.
Regardless, I've waiting on mine as well -
iMac17G5/1.8
1GB PC400 DIMM Module
160g HD
Primary use will be recording/editing audio from my my modular synth in my studio
G5 iMac memory Qs
From the iMac support page at the Apple website
G5 iMac memory support.
Hope that helps.
From the iMac support page at the Apple website
G5 iMac memory support.
Hope that helps.
Very interesting.
iMac G5 parts you can install yourself.
I hope the part in bold means what I think it means.
About the G5 iMac diagnostic lights
The iMac has a light to indicate an overheating, I guess it is a possibility. Though anything is really.
If you can replace the midplane then the G5 iMac is upgradable???
iMac G5 parts you can install yourself.
I hope the part in bold means what I think it means.
About the G5 iMac diagnostic lights
The iMac has a light to indicate an overheating, I guess it is a possibility. Though anything is really.
If you can replace the midplane then the G5 iMac is upgradable???
kcmac said:
Can you post some pictures of the 20" as that's what i've ordered and all the pictures so far seem to be of the 17". Is the 20" really big? I've been getting worried in case it looks like a massive chunk of plastic and not nice and elegant like my current 17' sunflower iMac.
Also does anyone know if there is more room in the back of the 20"? I mean it has the same components as the 17" so there must be more space due to the bigger enclosure. It also puzzles me as to why the 20" is 3mm thicker than the 17".
Guess I'll find out when mine arrives. I'm in the UK and the ship date still says 28th Sept ...... but I can wait