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SiliconAddict said:
Nor did anyone think those Tiger screenshots where real and you know the end result of that. Personally real or not its fugly. It doesn't have any of Apple's typical curves but then again its partly disassembled in its current state so who knows. :confused:

Tiger may have some ugly features but at the end of the day it is Software, ugly things can be changed over the course of production (which of course Tiger is still in)

Ugly hardware however once released is stuck there for months before a Rev B comes along so I doubt they do anything stupid.....I hope not
 
Darwin said:
Tiger may have some ugly features but at the end of the day it is Software, ugly things can be changed over the course of production (which of course Tiger is still in)

Ugly hardware however once released is stuck there for months before a Rev B comes along so I doubt they do anything stupid.....I hope not

Hardware can get changed quickly:
nintendo-ds-old-vs-new-20040728113610444-000.jpg

See? That change took one whole month (or so). Dosen't take MONTHS. Anyway, it's coming out real soon. They didn't have time. But Nintendo changed it.

Apple could change the G5. External asthetics could get changed a bit. Anyway, we haven't seen the whole thing. Could be interesting...
 
The imac photo looks to fake for it not to be photo-shopped. It looks like a generic display with an apple logo added at a later stage to be bounced over the internet. Steve er... i mean Schiller will have something amazing to surprise us with. The keynote will not be the same without steve, but the imac will not be what we expect it to be. I am expecting something big.
 
Jalexster said:
Hardware can get changed quickly:
nintendo-ds-old-vs-new-20040728113610444-000.jpg

See? That change took one whole month (or so). Dosen't take MONTHS. Anyway, it's coming out real soon. They didn't have time. But Nintendo changed it.

Apple could change the G5. External asthetics could get changed a bit. Anyway, we haven't seen the whole thing. Could be interesting...

True, but in the case of Apple once they release something they tend to not change the basic design for a few months, of course it is possible to change hardware but I was talking about Apple in particular

Thanks anyway :)
 
here's a conspiracy theory for you...

Apple are deliberately leaking pics before launching key new products. (eg Tiger, Panther last year and now maybe the iMac/eMac)


Why would they do that? Simple: Pre-release damage control.

This way they get a sampler of the response to a new product so when they do announce they are forewarned and better prepared to deal with negativity - and thus in their launch they can deal with it.

Since us Mac enthusiasts are SOOOO demanding/sensitive, it would make a lotta sense.
 
ChrisH3677 said:
Apple are deliberately leaking pics before launching key new products. (eg Tiger, Panther last year and now maybe the iMac/eMac)


Why would they do that? Simple: Pre-release damage control.

Actually if they were leaking stuff strategically it would be to generate hype I think. And if so its doing a pretty good job. Also it may be being used to trace how stuff leaks to help them trace stuff that really is without their consent in the future.
 
Someone posted this picture on AI, so I thought i'd share it over here. Its of the original charcoal 15inch display again, though I bet the blue version used a similar box and design.

STUDIO8.jpg


The display was designed to be used in 2 configurations. With the tall stand or resting on the top of the desk (as pictured) I bet you on another side of the box is a picture with the display using the stand. This is what we're seeing in the iPodfrance picture.

As for the size of the box - Why are people saying the box is huge in the photo? The only thing you have to compare it to is that its about half the size of a wooden pallet. That's not very big. Maybe you have different sized pallets in the US?
 
TMA said:
As for the size of the box - Why are people saying the box is huge in the photo? The only thing you have to compare it to is that its about half the size of a wooden pallet. That's not very big. Maybe you have different sized pallets in the US?

I believe pallets are pretty much standard -- as are the 'default' width of forks on a small warehouse-type forklift. I suppose I went a bit overboard with the use of the word 'huge' but it still looks bigger than my 17" iMac box. Wouldn't that monitor box be considerably smaller?

Squire
 
Squire said:
I believe pallets are pretty much standard -- as are the 'default' width of forks on a small warehouse-type forklift. I suppose I went a bit overboard with the use of the word 'huge' but it still looks bigger than my 17" iMac box. Wouldn't that monitor box be considerably smaller?

Squire

I wouldn't have thought it would be smaller...if anythign larger. My 17 when shut is easily as small as a 17" monitor (wdiescreen) if the thickness of the new 20" is anythign to go by.

Here's hoping.
 
sockeatingdryer said:
Mine didn't come in a plain brown post package. In fact, I was worried because they put an eMac box on my front porch <i>while</i> I was gone. I know they ship software in plain brown, but my eMac didn't. Nor my iMac in '98.

umm.. yeah. now that I think of it, only laptops, ipods etc have the brown post package. my bad. ok so in that case my writing was horse ****e.
but still there would've been a piece of tape on the middle of the box to keep it closed, and it would have had to be cut in order to open the box, so we end up with the guy getting fired anyway.

well, the first pictures seem to have been judged a hoax here, so is there any point in anything anymore?! uhh. i wish it was tuesday already.
 
Squire said:
I believe pallets are pretty much standard -- as are the 'default' width of forks on a small warehouse-type forklift. I suppose I went a bit overboard with the use of the word 'huge' but it still looks bigger than my 17" iMac box. Wouldn't that monitor box be considerably smaller?

Squire

'Euro Pallets' are about half the size of standard pallets but rectangular so stards forks can lift them. I've no idea what the second photo's are but those in the lift I took as fake on 1st sight simple because the box size being to small for the 'object' and any keyboard etc. and that the Apple logo looked like an addtion to the box.
 
mpw said:
'Euro Pallets' are about half the size of standard pallets but rectangular so stards forks can lift them. I've no idea what the second photo's are but those in the lift I took as fake on 1st sight simple because the box size being to small for the 'object' and any keyboard etc. and that the Apple logo looked like an addtion to the box.

It does look a bit snug but the perspective is hard on the measurements.

As for no keyboard, thats a good sign because the new imac/tablet should not come with a keyboard as standard, rather the purchaser should choice a wired or wireless option when buying...
 
TV

borgboyutah said:
I found one more pic of the new iMac on the guy's .mac web page. I don't know why this one isn't floating around yet. I think it is real, and it does show the guys hand in the pic so you can see how large the thing is. To big for just a monitor and the back of the monitor seems to mean taht is where the rest of the computer is. Woo hoo!

Uhh does this look like a tv to you? this is not a computer look at it. This could actually be authentic, but not the product we think. An Apple TV would just be like a cinema display with a reciever. The Imac G5 would have much better security then this.
 
eSnow said:
No, it is not - you are absolutely wrong.
What you are pointing to is JPEG-compression artefacts made even worse by cropping and recompressing an alread bad photo.

...ok, what you are saying makes sense...but ONLY if those compression artifacts are consistent throughout the entire surface of the image (especially where the colors are supposed to be equal, e.g. the black box). I compress images for the web ALL THE TIME, and what you see in this image NEVER happens the way it is happening here. This picture was manipulated, and that is a fact. sorry, but you (and anyone else who thinks what you do) are quite wrong.
 
Stella said:
The so called 'photo shop' experts are here.


HELLO... you fake 'photoshop experts' haven't a clue.. really, you don't, you've been wrong about crying 'fakes' more times than you've been correct.

WRONG - G4 TOWERS 'fake'
WRONG - iPod pictures
WRONG - Tiger pictures
WRONG - Panther pictures

You lot obviously have too much time to spare...

Go and Get a life. Really.

So, what's your argument?? I don't have a life? Wow, well this thing must definitly be real then..man, I never saw it that way before. FYI, my post with the image took me all but 16 seconds to complete, ant this one took me 5. Meaning: I had 19 seconds to spare in my worthless life for this silly fake of an image. You're right, that is too much time to spend arguing with you.
 
Im pushing this TV

jettredmont said:
I think that's the white wrap paper/cloth stuff, folded away. You also see that same wrap obscuring the top of the device in the way-overexposed photograph and folded away like that in the under-exposed photograph.

Did any think it could be a remote for a TV?
 
Heh

this is just like when the new ipods came out, u guys were like "wahh that click wheel is ugly" then when they actually came out u guys were all "puttin' that 3g up on ebay :p " so in the end, if this is real, we would all probably like "ooo time for a g5 imac" lol
 
My 2¢. The item on the pallet is not something Apple would currently design. It's extremely disproportionate, and the "arm" or "neck" is too large and the wrong shape. Apple would stick with something along the line of the current imac arm, if they were to stick with the same basic design. Basically, whatever is on that pallet is too ugly for apple currently.

The other object of attention, the monitor in the elevator, is a little more interesting. As far as jpeg artifacts go, the entire side of the box is covered with them, not just around the apple; to me this is not indicative of a bad photoshop job, it's either a good photoshop or not photoshopped at all, either way the 8x8 pixel artifacts, are just that, artifacts, jpeg anomalies from the discrete fourier transforms (or sine transforms, can't remember what jpeg uses) used to compress the image. Also, the angle of the distortion in the apple matches the distortion in the box side itself (whether caused by the camera lens used, or simply warped cardboard), this would be a lot of work for a photoshopper to get right. This is either a powerbook box (as someone already suggested) or the real thing. If someone has a powerbook box with styrofoam, it would be nice to see some pics.

As far as the monitor itself, three possibilities exist in my mind. Cinema display, some other display, or the real thing. Whichever, the item in the picture was definitely in the box and in the elevator, not to say that a little touch-up photoshopping wasn't done. Some have suggested that it's not a cinema display because the apple is on top not on the bottom. It's hard to tell from the picture which way the apple is oriented, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that it is just a cinema display upside down.

However, I really don't think it's a cinema display, since it would be easier to photoshop the other side, which doesn't have the touch-sensitive controls. And the apple on the cinema display is more metallic than white (at least in photos, which is also true of the sides of the cinema displays as well (check the photos on apples site, it's very likely photoshop would not be needed to change the color, and that portion doesn't really look photoshopped anyway). Whether or not the apple was photoshopped in, is up in the air, imo. I tend to think a photoshopped apple would actually be more distinct than what is currently visible.

Imo, the most likely photoshopped part is the bottom bezel on the screen, the portion that is in the box. Having zoomed in on that portion, it seemed that that portion had a grain to it, instead of a lightly speckled appearance, as seen throughout the picture on the other edges, as as would be expected of aluminum. That would match very nicely with a display someone posted a few pages back that had a row of buttons along one bezel. The result looks very much like a clone tool job, or even worse, one long drag of the smudge tool finger.

So my final opinion is something like this, if its a fake, all the components are real, and only a little photoshop to clean up some details, and I would heavily favor a non mac monitor over the cinema display as the stand-in in the fake category. I can also see it being real, while it may not be what people were hoping for it to look like, it does fit the current apple aesthetic, and it pretty well matches all the rumors we've been hearing from ts and others. Which is precisely the problem with this whole ordeal, if it's a fake wouldn't the prankster want to make it look as much like the rumors as possible?, and if it looks like the rumors descriptions, then we're more likely to believe it's real. In the end, based on photographic evidence, I would have to say it's a toss-up, and really, attempting to determine the veracity of any photo rumor based on the photo itself is generally foolishness precisely because of the above mentioned reasons. I guess I'm inclined to believe it's a good fake mostly because we haven't heard anything of this schmoe's untimely death following the obvious recognition that he broke into this box to get photos. I mean, if we know one thing about apple, it's that nobody with a camera would ever be allowed anywhere near a box, and even if he did manage to do so, his tampering would be obvious. Security(secrecy) is number one for apple.
 
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