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I can’t imagine the component parts of a Windows machine ever coming to a total of $13k.

Mac is a convenience platform, not a power platform. Whoever spends that much on a Mac is crazy, and whoever thought those prices would sell is even crazier. That’s why the trashcan Mac Pro didn’t sell, and that’s why I believe this one won’t either.

You're insane. You can spec a Dell Workstation up to 15K+. go build one yourself and then note that they're using last gen Xeons & GPUs and then keep in mind that doesn't come with a 5K monitor with P3 color gamut
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$12,207 with the education discount....;)

I've been in college for 25 years now. Thanks apple.
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You think this thing is expensive? You aint seen nothin yet. Just wait for the next Mac Pro and the first $20k Mac.

You can configure a Power Mac over 20K for years now.
 
As usual, this thread is full of uneducated commentary, incorrect information, and it smells of jealousy by those that do not need or can not afford what this beautiful machine brings to the table.

Meanwhile, those of us that actually need this to do our job better and faster will quietly buy one and be marveled by the incredible tool now at our disposal. Thank you Apple for realigning your focus on creating a Mac for professional users and actually delivering it with reasonable prices.
 
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Not bad? Are you serious?

A true "pro" user who would buy this machine is likely to make the money back in a week or two. A web developer could make this back in a month or two. So for a machine that you'll be using for at least two years (most likely three or four), the ROI isn't very long.

And also try pricing the components (and OS - Windows since macOS is "free") yourself. The price is competitive.
 
So I took the challenge to compare the price of the iMac Pro to a comparable Windows 10 System. I choose to use Dell for the Windows system. So I custom built a Dell Precision Workstation Tower 5000 with a configuration as close to the iMac Pro I would buy as possible. PLEASE NOTE- my iMac Pro IS NOT maxed out. I would not buy it that way even though others might, and I would not recommend that you buy it that way. My iMac Pro config gives the most computer for the least money. Sounds right to me. So here we go:

iMac Pro- 10Core Processor,128GB of Ram, Vega 64 Graphics,1TB SDD,Keyboard and Trackpad-$8849

Dell PW5000-10 Core Processor (W series),128GB of Ram,(2)RadionPro W7100 Graphics Cards,1TB SSD,No Keyboard and Trackpad (Windows Systems -pick what you want), LG 5K display-$9200

So the Windows system costs MORE. You can argue that you get more, more expandability,more options,more upgradeability.

I was of the opinion before I started this that the iMac Pro was a stupid priced system. I was wrong. It's important to understand that these systems are made and priced for people who are real pro's and making their living on them. When you see them as the work tools that they are meant to be,these prices make a lot more sense.
 
As usual, this thread is full of uneducated commentary, incorrect information, and it smells of jealousy by those that do not need or can not afford what this beautiful machine brings to the table.

Meanwhile, those of us that actually need this to do our job better and faster will quietly buy one and be marveled by the incredible tool now at our disposal. Thank you Apple for realigning your focus on creating a Mac for professional users and actually delivering it with reasonable prices.

Right. The starting price & options do not seem extreme if you're the kind of person that iMac Pro was built for. If these prices seem extreme, you are not the demographic. I'm actually surprised there weren't any people saying they could built a gaming PC for cheaper. This is not a gaming machine either. This is a workstation for Video, Audio, photography, VR, scientific models, CAD and number crunching where multiple cores and lots of RAM benefit the workflow enough to save the person or company time (which is money) in the long run over a lower cost Mac.

The amount of people who will get a top-spec is very thin. Me personally, I spent $2,700 on my 5K iMac a year ago. The base iMac Pro is more powerful in every way and only $2,000 more. I'm looking forward to buying a used one on eBay in 2 years to replace my current iMac and I'm just a hobbyist in 4K video and RAW photos.
 
And also try pricing the components (and OS - Windows since macOS is "free") yourself. The price is competitive.
Win 10 is also free with a Win 7 or 8 key.

Yes the price is competitive for high end specs. But there are plenty of pros that don't need ore require the high end specs. Say a developer - they really don't need ECC memory or a super high end GPU but need many cores and much RAM and fast disk to run VMs and compile code.
 
I’m a pro doing neural network related projects, which is getting more and more popular. Without an Nvidia GPU, which is optimized for neural networks, the new iMac is useless. Bummer.
 
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I've priced up an iMac Pro (in the UK) for photography editing and occasional video editing. I can't see that it needs to be maxed out as long as there's 64GB RAM and pushing 10 cores and some high end graphics. I c an get a machine at around £7500. Take into consideration the sale price of my current iMac and we're looking at £5K. I think that's well worth the outlay - I'd even be tempted to bump up the RAM to 128GB at that price.
 
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Win 10 is also free with a Win 7 or 8 key.

Yes the price is competitive for high end specs. But there are plenty of pros that don't need ore require the high end specs. Say a developer - they really don't need ECC memory or a super high end GPU but need many cores and much RAM and fast disk to run VMs and compile code.

Yes, but you have to have the 7 or 8 key first which you paid for. macOS truly is free if you've made a boot disk.
 
UK here. Just spec'd one the way I'd like it for non-video, heavy compute work, reasonable workhorse but not Porsche-level.
10 cores, 128GB RAM (I love ECC!) 2TB SSD, 8GB GPU, Magic Mouse... £8500. 2 weeks delivery. Colour me impressed.
Much less than I feared. Now to figure out how to pay for it for real...
 
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Well Dell is almost as over priced as Apple is. Bad example.

You could build your own for much less. Try a HP z workstation.

Now being a business owner myself we have mobile workstations, desktop workstations which are all upgradeable. Your $5000 goes much further than a imac pro. After three years its not so"pro" any more. Obsolescence is built in. On a modular workstation it's not.

Furthermore if you need to fix something on the fly during a busy work day you are basically shut down because of it until you get the problem fixed. Not so on a modular machine. Swap a part and off you go.
 
Standard version $4.999 vs 5.499EUR
Middle version 10 core $7.199 vs 8.139EUR
BTO with software $13.300 vs 16.000EUR

16.000EUR ... for 17.500EUR you can buy brand new Hyundai Kona or Hyundai i35 .... and here in Poland average salary is about 600EUR :mad:
 
I am very curious if the iMac Pro can sustain high processing speeds over an extended length of time. It may do great in a bunch of limited benchmark tests, but as is the case with all iMacs and Macbook Pros, the compact body design limits cooling and as a result the processors tend to throttle themselves when they are given a heavy load over an extended period of time. You can see this happen in both the new Macbook Pro and the current iMac. There is not enough airflow or cooling happening internally so the processors simply have to cut back to keep cool. So can you edit and render 4k video for 8 hours on this machine and not any suffer speed losses? I seriously doubt it. While pretty, the iMac case is not the best design for power work stations. I don’t care what kind of thermal cooling jargon Apple spouts.

Couple that with Adobe’s poor support of multicore processing for almost all of its app, and you have a super expensive machine that has all these amazing components that you can never fully utilize.

I’ll be honest, I still want an iMac Pro. I work with massive video files every day and it will definitely be faster than any other Mac out there. But don’t be impressed by all the speed tests you start seeing on the internet. Seek out tests that show extended use over time, not just one-off benchmarks or quick rendering tests. Right out of the gate, the iMac Pro will smoke the competition, but an hour or two down the road the gains will be significantly reduced.

So how fast is the iMac Pro after it has heated up and you’ve been working on it for hours on end? That is the real question. I guess we will know soon enough.
 
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Damn, I want one but I’ll wait until the Mac Pro and displays come out to make a fair comparison.

I tend to go the MacPro route because I like to upgrade the internals at some point and keep my displays for years to come. My current ACD is I think 13 years old.
 
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I’m a pro doing neural network related projects, which is getting more and more popular. Without an Nvidia GPU, which is optimized for neural networks, the new iMac is useless. Bummer.

Critiquing an Apple product here obligates 5 guys to come back at you basically laying out that you are doing what you do wrong... and that you should comply with what Apple has decided is the perfect configuration for your- or anyone elses- work. More simply, variations of "you're holding it wrong." I think it may be some rule. ;)
 
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