Teachers qualify too, though they likely won’t be the target market either. Maybe if you are married to one?
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iMac Pro Now Available to Order With 8 to 18 Cores and Prices Ranging From $4,999 to $13,199
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Teachers qualify too, though they likely won’t be the target market either. Maybe if you are married to one?
Exactly. I think people think these iMac Pro's are supposed to be an option for standard iMac buyers... well, they're not. The Pro's were made with Professionals in mind, folks who want the highest quality parts so they can get work done with the best quality. I've purchased plenty of $10-15K HP Z800-840 workstations for people at work so they can run simulations and a lot of GPU, memory, and CPU intensive work. And sure, we could build an equivalent machine if we got parts from NewEgg or Microcenter but it wouldn't be any cheaper. These pre built machines from Dell, HP, and now Apple have ECC memory, dual processor-high core count options, workstation gpus like nvidia quadro's, fire gl's, and now vega.
Dell, HP, and Apple's warranty service can't be beat either.
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If I bought one and just used my old keyboard and mouse, I wonder what I could sell the space gray peripherals for...
It’s expensive, but I’m considering an 8 or 10 core.
On anothe forum I’m member of, people have already ordered the maxed out version, so I think they will sell well. Not in an MacBook kind of way, but still.
The iMac handles 8K files full res from my camera and it will be quite a few years befor I need more than 8K
On anothe forum I’m member of, people have already ordered the maxed out version, so I think they will sell well. Not in an MacBook kind of way, but still.
The iMac handles 8K files full res from my camera and it will be quite a few years befor I need more than 8K
See HP Z840 Series Rackable Minitower B&H Custom Workstation and HP Z840 Series Rackable Minitower Turnkey Workstation with second Xeon E5-2680 v4, 128GB RAM and Quadro M6000 Graphics Card
And then there are the CUBIX workstations listed at $17K to $33K
After being in numerous corporate environments, I have yet to run into one where computers are religiously upgraded or upgraded at all.
Need more RAM? New computer shows up, old computer goes into a box, and box shipped back to CDW. Simple as that. Most companies don’t have time to dick around with upgrades
I have however seen seas of iMacs filling up a seas of open offices (the new cubical).
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If you adjust for inflation, the top configuration of the Mac IIfx already beat that in 1990. $22,647.50 in 2017 dollars.
Why 128GB and not 64Gb? Price of this ram seems so high... I'm with you on everything else....
Not how it works. Given that the PSU's have the same efficiency, they would draw roughly the same amount of power powering the same hardware.
The HPZ8 is already coming in at just under $20k, going by what I am seeing on Twitter. And this is without the 5k display or thunderbolt. The iMac Pro is actually a steal compared to this.
That's not how electricity works.
A power supplies (maximum) power rating, in W, does not tell you how much power the system uses on average.
In fact, all other things being equal, a power supply with a greater power rating is likely to have improved efficiency as well as more margin/better component de-rating, leading to a longer lifetime.
Source: am electronic engineer.
The logic that all "pro" users want/need to open up their machines is false. Not all "pros" are tech savvy enough to open up their machines. Most would likely be the type to take their current Mac Pro to an Apple Store to upgrade anything. And I'm sure Apple knows that a large portion of their "pro" user base doesn't upgrade their computers. So this model will suit the needs of one segment of the "pro" base while the modular Mac Pro will fit the other segment of the "pro" base. But "pro" doesn't mean techie who opens up their computer to do upgrades.
As for price. Most "pros" can pay for this machine with a week or twos worth of work. The performance of this type of machine to their workflow justifies the price. Everything else is just noise from people that aren't in the market for this machine anyway.
As for price. Most "pros" can pay for this machine with a week or twos worth of work. The performance of this type of machine to their workflow justifies the price. Everything else is just noise from people that aren't in the market for this machine anyway.
I've seen this happen countless times in the Federal space, and on the polar opposite of the tech sector, SV, in the AR/VR space, same thing, whole machines swapped out for new GPUs (in the private sector, they were at least donating deprecated gear to schools, NPs and whatnot).
Software pro power users are not necessarily also hardware pros...
A long time ago (late 90s / early 2000s), I recall the claim being made that most PSUs are the most efficient at 80% of their rating. Is that not still true?
I seem to be more and more confused by some of the comments lately on macrumors.
First, this iMac is geared towards the pro market. The other existing iMac is still there with options valuable to most everyday users. Nothing has changed in that regard and I’m glad Apple is concerned about the pro users and doing something. Some people seem to think Apple should cater to the pro market but not charge a premium for premium parts.
Which brings me to my next issue or public awareness. For those that want to price out a comparable windows computer, go ahead. It’s not going to be much less if any. Xeon proxessors, the memory, graphics card and screen. I’d say you’d be over $4500 for something close. So my advice, if you don’t know why it costs this much in the first place or how it differentiates from the regular iMac, it might be best to not complain about the price and Apple charging too much.
For those that want more power because their job relies upon it, this fills a void they couldn’t get. Just some benchmarks yesterday showed exporting out a 360° video was almost double as fast as the top of the line iMac. 3-4 hrs saved rendering each video goes along way. So I’m happy for today. I’m not in a position to buy one, but I’m glad it’s there. Now to go download fcpx 10.4.
Edit: also, I’ve seen more and more iMacs being used in the professional industry lately due to their size and mobility. Placing them on carts for studio photography or in a video studio on a wall to control colors and cameras.
Pros are using the quad core 5K iMac without Xeon CPUs and ECC memory. Same with the people using the MacBook Pro. Those laptops don't have Xeon processors, or ECC memory. So suggesting "all" pros need those types of components is a wild over reaching blanket statement.
Which brings me to the next comment. Apple's inspiration for this iMac was knowing pro users were using the 4k and 5k iMacs for their content creation and editing, and vacating the 2103 Mac Pro unless they absolutely needed 12 cores. There are PC component options with 6 - 18 cores that aren't Xeon CPUs, and that don't require ECC memory; and a TON of pros are making use of these machines. They're infinitely less expensive than this iMac Pro. I'm building a 7820x mid tower for less than $2,000. Actually, it's going to cost me less than $1,600, as I'm repurposing two SSDs, and don't need a display -- and it will do everything this iMac Pro can do. At a far less price. So yes, I'm leaving the Mac platform and giving this Windows thing a whirl because, for a small business owner, price is a definitely a factor. Hell, the price of my 8-core machine is going to be less than a topped out 5K iMac. Which is entirely stupid.
Apple isn't just missing this giant segment of pro users, they're actually pooping (sorry
) on them. You're either stuck with a 4-core iMac, for $3,000+, or you need to pony up $5,000+ if you need a 8 or more cores, and 32+ GB of ram.If Apple already has the Modular Mac Pro coming out, this 8 - 18 core iMac didn't need to be Xeon; it could have been x299 based to bring the price down. Hell, if Apple was smart, they'd have built a Mac Mini-tower with the x299 components, and make it user upgradable. ...but no. Apple being Apple, doesn't think about what users need, much less want.
