iMac Pro Now Available to Order With 8 to 18 Cores and Prices Ranging From $4,999 to $13,199

[Return Zero]

As CPU's have stagnated, you're right. GPU's is where this iMac "pro" is going to be outdated within 2-3 years with no change of upgrading.
Even TB3 is going to hamstring a Titan V. Which should be an option for this thing as it uses less power than a Vega 64 and blows it completely out of the water....

Maybe there will be a enclosure with an option to use dual TB3 ports? I think that would get it close to PCIe speeds

 

[VRing]

The iMac Pro review in the article earlier in the week here, where the reviewer had a 10-core, 128GB RAM, 2TB SSD and 16GB Vega video, claimed a similarly priced PC would be $5200. It made it sound like the PC was MORE than the iMac ($4999).

Today, that same iMac Pro shows it's $9599. The PC is HALF THE PRICE!!! LOL!!!

GamePC (Silicon Valley company that makes custom workstations) has Xeon W listed in their prices.

iMac Pro - $9,599 (same configuration that MKBHD had)

• Intel Xeon W-2155 (downclocked)
• Radeon Pro Vega 64 16 GB HBM2 (downclocked)
• 128 GB DDR4-2666 ECC
• 2 TB PCIe NVMe SSD
• 10 Gb network card
• MacOS
• 1 year warranty

GamePC GMT-W7/300 - $6,514 (PC) + $1,299 (Dell UP2715K display) = $7,813

• Intel Xeon W-2155
• Radeon Pro Vega Frontier Edition (Vega 64) 16 GB HBM2
• 128 GB DDR4-2666 ECC
• 2 TB PCIe NVMe SSD
• 10 Gb network card (2x)
• Windows 10 Pro
• 1 year warranty

That's $1,786 less for a more powerful workstation that can be upgraded and won't have thermal throttling.

 

[Smearbrick]

I think the "Pro" in iMac Pro is being overlooked by many of us, with regard to price, because the term "Pro" is overused. The Macbook Pro, while being using by professionals, is not something that is exclusive to professionals. A lot of people opt to bypass the overpriced (in my opinion) Macbook and jump on the more overpriced (again, in my opinion), Macbook Pro. I don't think, however, the price disparity between Macbook and Macbook Pro is as much as it is between bottom of the barrel 27" iMac and bottom of the barrel 27" iMac Pro.

I think there is an expectation that this "Pro" machine should be much more attainable by the average consumer. Apple created that expectation by applying the word "Pro" to machines that don't really deserve that moniker.

 

[jadot]

Why are some so indignant that the full maxed out machine will cost around 13K? That's the top end for very specific users, who, by the way, might well not be paying for the workstation themselves anyway.

A mid-range (Price) iMac Pro for around £7K is going to blow most people away by the sounds of it. That's actually a monumental upgrade for a good price.

Don't spend $13K - if that's too much to you the chances are you don't need that kind of computational power anyway.

 

[lunarworks]

The Macintosh IIfx was $11,000, maxed out, when it was released in 1990.

That's $25,000 in 2017 dollars.

So, hold the hyperbole.

 

[iMcLovin]

People should keep in mind that this expensive machine will only make Adobe programs slower (!) If that's your usecase. I would advice people to do your research before buying an expensive machine like this, with a ton of cores.

 

[violst]

Am I the only one who thinks this is crazy. When the nMP was released people complained that you couldn't upgrade the machine, But you could upgrade the SSD, ram and CPU. Which I did all three to my nMP.

This iMac Pro is a completely closed system! There is nothing pro about that! "you get what you get and don't get upset" isn't a good way to invest your money in a pro workstation machine.

Ive kept my nMP alive this long by upgrading the components as I needed it, and with a new moduler Mac Pro just around the corner I'll save my 13+K for that.

 

[Darajavahus]

The iMac Pro consumes less power when idle, 59.8W compared to 68.3W regular iMac but a lot more power when sleep 7.59W vs 1.19W

 

[belvdr]

Critiquing an Apple product here obligates 5 guys to come back at you basically laying out that you are doing what you do wrong... and that you should comply with what Apple has decided is the perfect configuration for your- or anyone elses- work. More simply, variations of "you're holding it wrong." I think it may be some rule.

I still remember that "holding it wrong" comment; any other person that would have said that would be outcast.

 

[BB8]

That upgrade pricing is much worse than I thought it would be. That's probably a 50%+ profit margin on anything you choose to upgrade. /smh

 

[swingerofbirch]

Remember, you could upgrade the memory and video memory in the very first revision A iMac. It cost $1,299. And its processing power was not far from the top of the heap.

Granted, it wasn't easy to do this. You had to pull out the entire logic board. But it was Apple supported.

 

[ocnitsa]

How much to buy the hardware separately and then just run a pimped out hackintosh?

 

[ASUgrad1999]

How long now until we're able to write that about iPhone pricing?

My first car cost $500, for some that happened a long time ago..

 

[fourthtunz]

I'd buy that base model in a heartbeat if it had a 32" screen

 

[Archer1440]

GamePC (Silicon Valley company that makes custom workstations) has Xeon W listed in their prices.

iMac Pro - $9,599 (same configuration that MKBHD had)

• Intel Xeon W-2155 (downclocked)
• Radeon Pro Vega 64 16 GB HBM2 (downclocked)
• 128 GB DDR4-2666 ECC
• 2 TB PCIe NVMe SSD
• 10 Gb network card
• MacOS
• 1 year warranty

GamePC GMT-W7/300 - $6,514 (PC) + $1,299 (Dell UP2715K display) = $7,813

• Intel Xeon W-2155
• Radeon Pro Vega Frontier Edition (Vega 64) 16 GB HBM2
• 128 GB DDR4-2666 ECC
• 2 TB PCIe NVMe SSD
• 10 Gb network card (2x)
• Windows 10 Pro
• 1 year warranty

That's $1,786 less for a more powerful workstation that can be upgraded and won't have thermal throttling.

...And that runs windows. No, thank you.

 

[nt5672]

Mac OS, in the form you know it now, is a Unix operating system. It's a great OS for those looking for an alternative to Linux (Linux is targeted more towards the server market, as opposed to the creative or software development market). Final Cut is Mac-only.

Also, comparable Xeon-powered Windows workstations from HP, Lenovo etc not only come without a monitor and in a tower form factor, they also tend to come with 1000-2000W power supplies as opposed to the 500W power supply of the iMac Pro (this includes the display, if I'm not wrong). This means that the iMac Pro will use much less energy.

Nope, what it means is that it will throttle back CPU clock speeds and perform worse than the comparable windows machine when loaded up. Not a good option for a supposedly power machine.

 

[iamthedudeman]

If you cannot upgrade your own machine or fix something yourself during a busy work day its not really a "pro" machine.

 

[vetruvian]

You can configure this HP Z6 Windows machine up to $43,000: http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-z6...p_z4_and_z6_workstations/herobanner-buynow-z6

I specced out a tower similar to the top end iMac Pro and it came to about 11k. Obviously not including a 5k display or the ability to run OSX.

 

[Naimfan]

I see the complainers are out in full force . . .

 

[td2243]

Maybe it's just me being greedy, but the education discount is always so small. But it's better than nothing.

Agreed. It has never been enough to make me use it, instead of waiting for the same thing refurbished or even used. I always thought their Edu discount was measly.
[doublepost=1513267343][/doublepost]I'm gonna hold out for the nMP. I really like buying the system and upgrading the RAM later. I'm not pro enough to make this kind of money yet unfortunately.

 

[heimo]

I was pleasantly surprised that $13.199 didn't translate to something like 16.000e - but was actually less than 13.000e even with taxes. Amazing. But still for some reason my credit card keeps getting rejected with error code "no chance, dude!"

 

[Glassed Silver]

People complaining about the price need to realise that the iMac Pro isn't aimed at the average consumer, we are talking professional editors, content creators and so on. Movie studios will buy these, it is not very often you see a Windows machine in the editing labs (at least not here in the UK).

There'd be less whining if Apple provided folks with something like the old Mac Pro.

Something you can upgrade, because you need performance assured over time and a little more than thermal-throttled iMacs or laptops, more than mobile graphics... Let alone the whole dedicated GPU dilemma...

All I want is a premium, but fairly priced tower Mac.

I'm okay spending 500 bucks more than PC part pricing or even more, but it's not happening.

What's also not happening is making macOS a proper focus of the company again.

Subpar experience? Won't pick high-priced Mac again and get a Windows/Linux dual-boot machine for raw power.

It's not perfect either, but costs me less in my self-admistering position at home.

Edit: and no waiting for them to bother releasing a new model either! Apple used to care to source PC parts ahead of others, hardly anymore.

It feels as if they regard their computer business as something they need to maintain to maintain coherence only, less because THEY are passionate about it.

Glassed Silver:ios

 

[ocnitsa]

I see the complainers are out in full force . . .

Haters and fanbois, as per usual...

 

[iKrivetko]

I can’t imagine the component parts of a Windows machine ever coming to a total of $13k.

Because you have no idea what you're talking about perhaps? Do you even realise how much an 18 core xeon costs? Or a 4tb nvme ssd? Or 128 gigs of ecc ram?

 

[HarryWild]

A lot of pros still use Macs. If they do, sometimes it makes sense to get the most powerful one they can buy.
A business that bills $350/hr for imaging or video work could pay for one of those in a week.

The operator usually much more expensive. You can write it off tax wise anyways, so if you are profitable company and make more then the cost of the

I'd buy that base model in a heartbeat if it had a 32" screen

Buy a screen magnifier to place in front of the 27" screen.