It can. It would be nicer with the 2012 though becuase many speculate at least a GTX660m in the 21.5 high end. It better have 1gb of vram or else Apple is officially insane! No more 512mb crap for a resolution of 1920x1080. Ridiculous.
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iMac sept 12 release?
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It can. It would be nicer with the 2012 though becuase many speculate at least a GTX660m in the 21.5 high end. It better have 1gb of vram or else Apple is officially insane! No more 512mb crap for a resolution of 1920x1080. Ridiculous.
The 2011 21" would need to turn quite a few settings down to get SC II to have a decent framerate and not stutter.
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I find this unlikely. There's a veritable army of Apple-focused media. If there were anything at all to talk about on the iMac, one of them would pick it up, and the rest would copy it within 12 hours.
It's probably playable but not at the highest setting and that's what I'd want to play it on. Plus having a newer GPU makes the longevity of the machine that much better for any other games that might come out, but honestly I don't think many will be PC exclusive.
Wow, my money was well spent then on a 2009 iMac, I won't need to upgrade anytime to soon to the lesser capable newer machines.
It runs Starcraft 2 great, with high settings. And somehow it magically runs it natively under OS X
Wow, my money was well spent then on a 2009 iMac, I won't need to upgrade anytime to soon to the lesser capable newer machines.
It runs Starcraft 2 great, with high settings. And somehow it magically runs it natively under OS X
I grew up with Starcraft, I want to play the second one on the most extreme settings and still have it be buttery. The experience is key for me.
And by PC-only I meant non-console games. Very few games come out that aren't also available on the Xbox that I want to play.
My hopes
for a refreshed iMac are:
Increased screen size from 27" to 31". Retina is apparantly highly unlikely. But anti-glare would be nice.
CPU power at least matching the top end MBP 2012 model.
Graphics card with a minimum og 2GB dedicated memory.
8GB RAM as default. Upgradable to a max of 32 GB.
USB 3.0, Thunderbolt and Firewire.
I would love an October refresh, but not if they will lauch a fully redisigned iMac in Feb/March '13 with Reitna. Then I will feel a fool....
Am I completely off mark?
for a refreshed iMac are:
Increased screen size from 27" to 31". Retina is apparantly highly unlikely. But anti-glare would be nice.
CPU power at least matching the top end MBP 2012 model.
Graphics card with a minimum og 2GB dedicated memory.
8GB RAM as default. Upgradable to a max of 32 GB.
USB 3.0, Thunderbolt and Firewire.
I would love an October refresh, but not if they will lauch a fully redisigned iMac in Feb/March '13 with Reitna. Then I will feel a fool....
Am I completely off mark?
for a refreshed iMac are:
Increased screen size from 27" to 31". Retina is apparantly highly unlikely. But anti-glare would be nice.
CPU power at least matching the top end MBP 2012 model.
Graphics card with a minimum og 2GB dedicated memory.
8GB RAM as default. Upgradable to a max of 32 GB.
USB 3.0, Thunderbolt and Firewire.
I would love an October refresh, but not if they will lauch a fully redisigned iMac in Feb/March '13 with Reitna. Then I will feel a fool....
Am I completely off mark?
Most likely the high end CPU will be the i7 3770 and it WILL smoke anything in the 2012 MacBook Pros.
for a refreshed iMac are:
Increased screen size from 27" to 31". Retina is apparantly highly unlikely. But anti-glare would be nice.
CPU power at least matching the top end MBP 2012 model.
Graphics card with a minimum og 2GB dedicated memory.
8GB RAM as default. Upgradable to a max of 32 GB.
USB 3.0, Thunderbolt and Firewire.
I would love an October refresh, but not if they will lauch a fully redisigned iMac in Feb/March '13 with Reitna. Then I will feel a fool....
Am I completely off mark?
I don't see Retina or a size change happening this year, that'll be for the big redesign in 2013. By the way: the MBP uses a mobile processor, the iMac uses a desktop class one and 32 GB is the current max RAM for iMacs.
I see: new anti-glare screen similar to the rMBP, Ivy Bridge CPUs, better GPUs, USB 3, and cheaper SSD and RAM prices for build to order models.
That sounds spot on. Now, do you know when it'll be released ?!
If Apple doesn't silently introduce them in the store along with the iPhone/iPad nano (which is a name that makes more sense to me than iPad mini) in late September, I'd expect them sometime in October.
My hope is that they'd introduce them at the event in September even if they spend 15 minutes or so going over the new specs as they did at WWDC with the new MBPs. They wouldn't be taking the spotlight away from anything else announced. Think of it as an appetizer for the rest of the keynote.
But what I hope will happen and what I think will happen are two different things.
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May of 2011 for the iMacs, July of 2011 for the Mac Minis, and technically June for the Mac Pros but really July of 2010.
Errmm.. WWDC, June 2012, when the Mac Pro was refreshed. Now, it was a minor speed bump and not at all what people were hoping for, but it was a refresh.
Before that was the Minis in July 2011.
That depends on the following factors:
- What exactly gets announced at the Sept 12 event
- What Intel's Haswell schedule looks like
- What large-size Retina display capabilities look like
- What the 2013 GPU release schedule looks like
Immediate post-holiday is probably a non-starter. There's some speculation that a revised 10" iPad will be released on Sept 12, and then the February/March 2013 window would be open. Chances are none of Haswell, Retina, and 2013 GPUs would be ready by then though, so this March 2013 iMac would have all the components that should be out right now in a 2012 iMac. That would be a very disappointing and frustrating release.
Don't start thinking 2012 isn't happening, though, unless we get to Black Friday and there's no sign. There's plenty of time left this year. Early October, right after the iOS hoopla settles down, is probably the best bet.
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The iPad Nano is already out. You'll find it the box labeled iPod Touch.
With recent screen lamination issues with the iMac it's clear they are doing more than an Ivy Bridge upgrade, like on the MBP. So we'll either get a better LCD, maybe matte option or an outside chance of Retina. But I still think this is unlikely.
I just hope we'll get something soon, doesn't Apple want my money?
I just hope we'll get something soon, doesn't Apple want my money?
Read Jony Ive's interview.
The short answer is: no, not especially. They want to make products they consider great at their own pace. If other people agree they're great, and they don't screw up, the money just flows in on its own.
Even considering that apple will skip 2012 entirely is a rather premature assumption. Proven analysts claims sept/oct release and we still have many 2.5 likely months for a release left. In November it's time to get skeptical (then ill be furious if nothing has happened) but nothing indicates that this would happen and we have more than one rumor for sept/oct... So I'd say currently we have no reason to expect anything else. ...ps! Even apple themselves made a point of saying that iMac wasn't included in the Mac pro 2013 plans - for me thats another proof that we will see a 2012 iMac.
I agree. If November rolls around and there's no refresh, there won't be one in 2012.
When products come out in the fall, a lot of planning is done to make sure that they're available for the holiday season. I would say it's mid-October at the latest. Or not at all this year.
(Just think how long this forum will be by then...)
Maybe this is the new norm for them, as they double down on secrecy. After a year my high-end iMac minus the factory SSD is still fetching $1850 on Apple's refurbish website. Any other manufacturer dare charge full price and still have demand a year after it's technological release will be laughed at. Hell, probably some people are quietly laughing at those who are willing to buy year old technology at last year's full retail price. If it meets your needs and you know what you're getting into, that's fine, but as long as you realize what exactly it is you're paying for.
I can understand those who update their Macbook laptops yearly, but for a desktop like an iMac it doesn't really make sense as it is quite a hassle to arrange for selling, finding a buyer is harder as well. I know I personally don't want to go through that process any sooner than two years after purchase.
I can understand those who update their Macbook laptops yearly, but for a desktop like an iMac it doesn't really make sense as it is quite a hassle to arrange for selling, finding a buyer is harder as well. I know I personally don't want to go through that process any sooner than two years after purchase.
But in fairness how much faster/better will those new imacs be ? 10-20% in anything else but gaming where the gpu will make some sort of difference. Sure you can get retina as a major upgrade, but what GPU will run games smoothly on 27" retina ? gtx680/690/sli maybe ? Something that will not go into imac anyway.
And to be honest, people keep their macbooks for 2yrs + and they still do well.
Sure if you're to pay big bucks then better to get new (not yet released) model rather than 2011. But in reality it will not make you 100% more efficient with your work. In the end it's still same good machine it simply ages as any other electronic. You cannot keep up with this financialy unless you're loaded...
And to be honest, people keep their macbooks for 2yrs + and they still do well.
Sure if you're to pay big bucks then better to get new (not yet released) model rather than 2011. But in reality it will not make you 100% more efficient with your work. In the end it's still same good machine it simply ages as any other electronic. You cannot keep up with this financialy unless you're loaded...
Hate to burst your bubble, but I run SC2 at max res and extreme settings on my 2009 iMac. "Smooth as butter."
Hate to burst your bubble, but I run SC2 at max res and extreme settings on my 2009 iMac. "Smooth as butter."
Hate to burst yours
. I had terrible problems with SC2 on mine. But that was before I've added 32GB or Ram and I haven't played it yet, so can't say SC2 was flying. (2011-27"-i5 3.1ghz-hd6970m1gb)However I did manage to play it on mid 2010 mbp with the basic spec. Though quality was quite poor, yet I did play till protos-zerg queen cinematic.
I got you, but calling a Mac "PC", though technically correct, is like calling a lobster "big tasty ocean insect". Lots of people don't make the connection, and to those that do, it just feels wrong.
I too grew up on Starcraft, and was fairly disappointed with it's performance on my 2009 iMac w/4670HD GPU. I got 20-40fps with medium settings. Right now, I'm getting 30-45fps with high settings on my 2012 MBP w/4000HD iGPU!
But, my next iMac is going to be 27" top specced, to properly experience and enjoy Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void in the years to come!
They are doing an awesome job on doubling down, I can't wait to see what the iPhone 5 actually looks like...