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iMac sept 12 release?

BriMercer said:
I've done a lot of thinking about this and come up with three possible scenarios for how things will play out (listed below, but not in order of likelihood):

SCENARIO 1: Sept 12 rolls around and we get one of those oh-and-one-more-thing kind of moments. We are presented with two new, sleek, redesigned iMacs. There is no retina display, there is no optical drive, perhaps a non-reflective screen. (As many point out, this is unlikely given all the products that could potentially emerge in September. A 7" iPad is one of them, but I've been hearing this for years. Perhaps the 7" iPad will be bumped back to Spring 2013 when new iPads are usually presented, making room for a totally new iMac this fall.)

SCENARIO 2: The Sept 12 event happens, no iMac is mentioned. Within weeks an iMac 2012 appears with a bump in specs, Ivy Bridge, better graphics, etc. No true redesign for iMacs as mentioned above appears until Fall 2013. (I'm starting to think this is less likely. If there is a big redesign on the horizon for the iMac, it seems unlikely that they would do a minor spec bump before then. As many have mentioned here, if it was just a minor spec bump, then I think that would have happened last June. I don't think "screen lamination issues" would have stopped a simple minor spec bump.)

SCENARIO 3: iMacs aren't mentioned at the Sept 12 event and no spec bump happens through October. A complete iMac redesign is presented in the Spring 2013. (This is what I'm thinking now is most likely. But it's all marking time with speculation until we actually get some solid news. Why can't someone leave a new iMac behind at a bar, just for some real news?!?)
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If you done a lot of thinking, I guess you have a good reason why you think there won't be a refresh this year? Marketing reasons are not a good reason, it would be good marketing wise to get a new model out this year. the old one sells worse, as its outdated and people are expecting a new model all ready.
 
iMcLovin said:
If you done a lot of thinking, I guess you have a good reason why you think there won't be a refresh this year? Marketing reasons are not a good reason, it would be good marketing wise to get a new model out this year. the old one sells worse, as its outdated and people are expecting a new model all ready.
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Where are people getting that the imac wont be refreshed on 2012?. Every rumor i read says sep-oct time frame, so why are people saying 2013 ?? am i missing something? apple has refreshed their products on October before? plus the year is not over yet so why are people saying 2013 its quite annoying to be honest, not because i dont want to be true but because they just say things like this out their butt without any solid evidence or thought.
 
Whatever happens, I am not spending money on a "new" current iMac.

If there is no refresh I will by a second hand current iMac and then stuff a 680M MXM board into it when the refresh finally rolls around (assuming they use the 680M). If I have to machine the heatsink and cooling assembly myself I will do so if the stock one doesn't fit the new card geometry. No USB3 this way, but I'm not sure my 2006 machine can go much further - the GPU and RAM bottleneck (3GB max) is starting to bite, plus my optical drive failed about 6 months ago and I can't be arsed sinking any more money into a machine that is EoL to repair it.

The only way Apple sees the cold, hard cash I have for a new iMac is if they actually refresh it when I'm ready to buy - for me that is late September.
 
A couple of weeks ago, I was convinced that Apple's extremely annoying secrecy still works in their favor. I do not believe that anymore, Tim Cock is pissing of people left and right, and I'm sure some of us will not buy Apple anymore and some will buy the new iMac with a bit of a guilty conscience - because we know we should not reward this secrecy policy.

This ***** is NOT creating a hype. He is building a very, very bad reputation and not giving consumers the option of an informed choice. The very least at this point would be an official statement, on when this computer is going to come out. I don't care that they've never done that before, they also never had that dbag running things before. Especially since the iMac is not their main product line, as opposed to the iPhone or Macbook, (those are my assumptions, correct me if I'm wrong), they could have somewhat of a clearer road map for iMac, Mac Mini and Mac Pro. Save the secrecy charade for your mobile devices. It really sucks that Tim Cook will never read this post.
 
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I wonder if the refresh date is dynamic(no set date). Perhaps the decision will be made like this: When sales of the current gen iMac drop below X, release the new version in two weeks.

I could see this as the formula, especially if they aren't planning any major system redesign.
 
HurtinMinorKey said:
I wonder if the refresh date is dynamic(no set date). Perhaps the decision will be made like this: When sales of the current gen iMac drop below X, release the new version in two weeks.

I could see this as the formula, especially if they aren't planning any major system redesign.
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I think apple has a better overview than that. They have a 5 day turnover of all their products. I expect they know exactly when the current iMacs are below a certain stock. If they get trouble (as the assumed screen lamination thingie) they plan ahead and make sure to make pretty much the right amount of current iMacs to have enough until the new planned date. But since none of us have any inside info, I'm assuming just like you of course :)
 
CoreyLahey said:
A couple of weeks ago, I was convinced that Apple's extremely annoying secrecy still works in their favor. I do not believe that anymore, Tim Cock is pissing of people left and right, and I'm sure some of us will not buy Apple anymore and some will buy the new iMac with a bit of a guilty conscience - because we know we should not reward this secrecy policy.
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Man up, be discipline and wait it out.
 
I'm gonna be so friggin happy when this new iMac gets out. Finally then I can breathe again and stop reading this forum every minute... My early 2009 machine is struggling hard with the images I'm working on these days and often it just gets completely stuck because ram and everything gets completely strangled.
 
IGregory said:
Man up, be discipline and wait it out.
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Can't wait it out much longer. Having an old computer is like having a broken down car. You can't work, have fun, or do anything. Except it's like only one company makes automatic transmission, then suddenly stops making them, no "2012 Ford Taurus," no announcement, nothing. It's that absurd.

My only hope is that Apple has been working on it and there's some "perfectionist" delays going on -- obsessing to make it better. The worst case is that they don't give a crap whatsoever, assigned some scrub team to refresh it, they screwed it up, and Apple just says "oh well, fix it, no deadline -- we make money on iPhones." If iMacs make them NO money then all the more reason to do a quick refresh, keep Mac users from leaving, then spend more time making telephones.

Lots of people are waiting for new iMacs, and it's totally different from before I believe. I see PC users all over the place wanting their first Mac, Mac Pro people like myself seeing the benchmarks of the 2011 iMacs and wanting one for a new desktop, randoms who walk into an Apple store and want an all-in-one family computer, previous iMac owners, etc.
 
ivoruest said:
I think he meant that an event for an iMac is only for a huge redesign. But this event will surely be about iOS and iPhone. iMac will likely get a silent speed bump this year. If it happens.
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What are the odds that this speed bump will include the Nvidia 680m? I am patiently waiting for this speed bump to get my first Mac.
 
iPeg said:
Hey guys!

I made a little iMac concept, combining the iMac, the Mac Pro and the Cintiq into one device. Because I believe the desktop is far from dead and deserves Apples full attention again. And a Pro device should not have glued in components.
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Wow, that's a great design concept. May I recommend that you send your resume to Apple. It would not surprise me, in the end, the new Imac will look something like your design.
 
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IGregory said:
Wow, that's a great design concept. May I recommend that you send your resume to Apple. It would not surprise me, in the end, the new Imac will look something like your design.
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I don't think they have a mail adress for that ;-)
 
iMcLovin said:
Would have been funny if Apple now decided to go back to their lamp design for the 2012 iMac...then I think I´m gonna hate myself for waiting :D

YouTube: video

I mean, what a silly design, even back then! Ok it looked kinda funky back in 2002. But, why the heck would anyone want to have the entire machine designed around the ability to move the monitor around. How many times do you feel the necessity to move the screen around in different angles? Think I did that once....when I bought the computer. :D anyway fun reminiscing the past :) ...Could have worked as a drawing tablet though ;)

Man, Jonny Ive was even floating in space back then :D
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I actually think that was a great design, but completely impractical for a display over 17", which is likely the number one reason they abandoned it. When they started doing 20, 24, 27" screens it just wasn't going to work.
 
Apple changing its target mode or schedule mode on updates and redesigns. Must be part of Tim cooks 'Double down on secrecy' plan. I wouldn't be surprised to see a new Imac announced as we know its coming,
 
iPeg said:
Hey guys!

I made a little iMac concept, combining the iMac, the Mac Pro and the Cintiq into one device. Because I believe the desktop is far from dead and deserves Apples full attention again. And a Pro device should not have glued in components.

http://www.pascaleggert.de/iMacPro.html
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Uh dude... that's not a little concept. That's a HUGE concept. I love it and you should be in Apple's design team. OR... be in another company that can be Apple's true rival ;)


edry.hilario said:
Amazingly cool concept. I would personally hate a touch screen imac though
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Why would you hate the touch screen when it's not mandatory for you to use it?


iMcLovin said:
Would have been funny if Apple now decided to go back to their lamp design for the 2012 iMac...then I think I´m gonna hate myself for waiting :D

YouTube: video

I mean, what a silly design, even back then! Ok it looked kinda funky back in 2002. But, why the heck would anyone want to have the entire machine designed around the ability to move the monitor around. How many times do you feel the necessity to move the screen around in different angles? Think I did that once....when I bought the computer. :D anyway fun reminiscing the past :) ...Could have worked as a drawing tablet though ;)

Man, Jonny Ive was even floating in space back then :D
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Are you kidding me? That's the most interesting, unique, and head-turning (in a good way) computer design Apple has ever made. I would love it if they bring it back but with internal speakers this time.
 
iPeg said:
Hey guys!

I made a little iMac concept, combining the iMac, the Mac Pro and the Cintiq into one device. Because I believe the desktop is far from dead and deserves Apples full attention again. And a Pro device should not have glued in components.

http://www.pascaleggert.de/iMacPro.html
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That is just beautiful and great idea with the easy-upgrade concept, it might just be a couple of years into the future before this technology is around.

You should definitely see if someone was interested in this concept, apple might not be when it is easy-upgrade, but other PC-makers might and it may work perfect with WIN8 as well.

Great input.
 
Swordylove said:
Are you kidding me? That's the most interesting, unique, and head-turning (in a good way) computer design Apple has ever made. I would love it if they bring it back but with internal speakers this time.
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Uh, no....why is it. What would you benefit from such a design? why do you need a monitor you can freely move around? I guess you and I use the computer it totally different ways....I play with whats on the screen, you like to play with the screen :cool:

...seriously, it was an interesting and groundbreaking design. But Apple is function & design. This is mostly design IMO.
 
iMcLovin said:
Uh, no....why is it. What would you benefit from such a design? why do you need a monitor you can freely move around? I guess you and I use the computer it totally different ways....I play with whats on the screen, you like to play with the screen :cool:

...seriously, it was an interesting and groundbreaking design. But Apple is function & design. This is mostly design IMO.
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Actually, I didn't really care about the swiveling screen. I just think it's very unique, beautiful and totally different from any other computer. I think I agree that it's more design than function. But it does have better physical stability, right? Plus it's better not having hot running components directly behind the screen.

I don't think I ever need to turn the screen right and left, but the ability to adjust the height could be useful.
 
There is NO question as to whether there will be either a refreshed or redesigned iMac... this fall. None.

It does not take a genius to know why Tim Cook responded the way he did to the claim that he was specifically referring to ONLY the Mac Pro when talking about its redesign in 2013. He did NOT have to clarify that statement if the iMac wasn't getting refreshed or redesigned this year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieg...esigns-for-imac-mac-pro-in-works-due-in-2013/

After the new iMac benchmarks popped up this past MAY... 3 months ago... and after hearing about some of the production difficulties they were facing in June... and so forth... I'm a believer in a new redesigned iMac. I really am.
With retina.

I know it's a stretch but by October they will have all the kinks worked out and we'll see an announcement.

Look they could hold off til' 2013... and just put a lot of marketing into last years iMacs to clear the inventory but nah... I think they want to "wow" the market yet again... just in time for the consumer rush in November-December.

New iPhone, new iPad Mini in September.
New iMac in October.
Apple TV in March 2013.
New Mac Pro in June 2013.

I should probably be more optimistic though right? lol

Bookmark this!

Either I'll eat crow by the Terabyte and land a job with DigiTimes...
or, if I'm right, I'll change my name to HowtocoreanApple!

All jokes! :)
 
iPeg said:
Hey guys!

I made a little iMac concept, combining the iMac, the Mac Pro and the Cintiq into one device. Because I believe the desktop is far from dead and deserves Apples full attention again. And a Pro device should not have glued in components.

http://www.pascaleggert.de/iMacPro.html
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I can't really say much more than has already been said, but that is awesome.

If you haven't already, you should email a link or some screenshots of it to Tim Cook. There may be a job waiting for you!
 
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