I sometimes wonder how well Intel's IGP would perform if it had its own dedicated VRAM instead of sharing off the system RAM. You're still going to hit I/O bottlenecks on a computer with an IGP.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Intel Announces Centrino 2 (Montevina)
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Doesn't Apple evangelism count as a drug?
Like I said in my second-to-last post, I don't buy anything. Really ever. I won my iPhone from a local radio station, otherwise I wouldn't have it. (I still don't have service. I've had it a year...)
Gas because it's gas and I need to get to work, but everything else goes straight into savings for my two beasts.
And as I said, where I work isn't exactly McDonalds. We get paid good money there. The residents couldn't be nicer, either, so it's great.
I meant that in the sense that I won't be paying the extra cash for a MBP just to get a dedicated memory card as a lose for Apple, and instead would send my money elsewhere.
I understand where you're coming from where computers don't need a dedicated graphics card because they aren't gaming consoles and Apple never claims to be a gaming computer. But still, as a $1000+ machine, it should at least offer an option of dedicated graphics. Even if I'm paying slightly more, it's better than shelling out 500-1000 more for MBP just to get the dedicated graphics card that should cost a couple hundred at the most. Apple claims their computers are ready to go for whatever you want to do in commercials. Right out of the box you can make a movie or a website, but you can't necessarily play a computer game. That's a little bothersome.
People that make a living doing cinematography, heavy video editing, professional studio recording that requires extensive midi hookups, animation and game creation are just SOME of the reasons that people "need" a Mac Pro. Yes, not all people like you are buying them, just because.
You are perfectly in your rights to buy anything you wish and you do not need to explain yourself in general however I was asking a generalized question in response to a poster saying earlier that Apple knows college students will need a MBP for this coming fall. Again I see no reason for any college student to need a MBP. I'm a college graduate in computer science and I never even had a computer for school.
I work full time at minimum wage and I have to drive 45 minutes everyday to work(thats $10 a day in gas). If I had been saving longer I could afford a MBP, but I really only want a MB, and should be looking to get it by the middle of August. If you budget correctly (working with 30 financially savy ladies, it's kind of automatic for me), it shouldn't be too hard.
Currently, I'm able to set aside $300 every two weeks, especially after I've taken care of bills already. Unless you're having to pay for your own housing or utilities, I don't see how you can not afford it. Unless you just can't budget right at all.
I made $10/hr in college and had to pay for tuition, rent, utilities, and food. I didn't have a car back then since work was on campus and the bus was free for students. I managed to save enough money for a MacBook Pro. Then again I spent it on a MacBook and my quad core minitower.
gaming is a good reason to get the MBP since the Macbook graphics is so underpowered. do wish Apple came out with a MacBook that includes discrete graphics though (even if it's just a midranged graphics card). i don't want to buy my laptop and realize that i won't be able to play Starcraft 2 on high resolution just because of crappy graphics.
Considering that I work for a company that recently switched ot Dell laptops from, in our departments case, Toshiba laptops I can whole heartedly agree with the premiss that Dell laptops are JUNK!. Any It Administrator that goes the DELL route for laptops deserves to loose his job and frankly his home and life savings. Such a person should never work in IT again.
Huh?
If you don't understand what the original author was trying to say, then you really don't understand Vista and its overwhelming demands on hardware. While the intent seems to be to offer up a joke, the reality of Vistas hardware requirements is very real. Worst what MS considers to be minimal is not often an acceptable solution for the user.
You need to get a grip, sure one can do video and DVD authoring on a G3 just like one could do so on a 486. It just becomes a question of what decade you want to get your work done in. In any event if you look at DVD authoring as being pleasant on a G3 I do have to wonder if you are writing from a grave somewhere via a process of the occult. Having an eternity to do something will make any machine acceptable.
Dave
Sorry, I should have qualified that as all Apple laptops this year not all laptops. If you had read the thread, I was replying in regards to the MB, MBP, and MBA.
I don't know why this surprises anyone. The MBA was a new model released in February of this year. The rest of the Apple laptop line is rather mature. MBA sales were very rapid early on, sold out fast, and were then hard to get. The MBA sales easily outpaced MBP, & MB sales. Now that the product is more mature sales have slowed and are on par with MB & MBP sales.
Anyway the point of my original post was not to argue sales but to point out that intel had put limited supply chipsets into a hot selling Apple laptop before. So there is no reason why Apple might not get Montevina Platform laptops to the market even if the chips are in low supply.
I have. Unless you're anal about quality it's not all that bothersome. Who wants to always have to tote around a larger laptop?
These questions are irrelevant. If something really bothers you, don't do it. Most of us still won't mind.
What about higher-res MBP screens?
I read a review in PC Magazine (sorry
) of a new laptop from Alienware with a 15.4" 1920x1200 screen.
It was a super-pricey gaming laptop, but I was surprised at the resolution. Is there any chance Macbook Pros can get higher than the current 1440x900? Even 1680x1050 would be a great change.
Has there been any speculation about higher-res screens WRT coming updates?
That would be SO nice......
I read a review in PC Magazine (sorry
) of a new laptop from Alienware with a 15.4" 1920x1200 screen.It was a super-pricey gaming laptop, but I was surprised at the resolution. Is there any chance Macbook Pros can get higher than the current 1440x900? Even 1680x1050 would be a great change.
Has there been any speculation about higher-res screens WRT coming updates?
That would be SO nice......
For most college students I'd see a Mac Pro as an over kill investment. I do not see it that way for a MBP where much more has to be taken into account.
[/quote]
Depends on the college, do realize that some colleges REQUIRE that you have a computer. As to the actual need for a computer that is a more open question as back when I was in school the whole idea of a portable laptop like computer was for the most part imaginary. This was in a technical program with a lot of exposure to computing, the technology just wasn't there. So while I agree that one can get through a program without a personally owned PC, these days one can see a huge advantage to having one.
Some place in-between the colleges that absolutely require the students have a personally owned computing capability and those that have no requirements are the places where you really need one if you expect to succeed. Many colleges and sometimes specific professors have adopted the facilities networking services whole heartedly. Being able to navigate through those services is a big advantage.
A laptop also allows for the double edge sword of being able to take your work with you. That means keeping in touch with family and taking part in social events and not loosing your ability to spend time on your school work. Of course that means never truly getting away either.
The question is then is a MBP really a requirement for this. Well I'd say it is a bigger mixed bag then a Mac Pro which would be over kill for many students. There are real advantages to a MBP that each student has to consider on his own. The reality is that when held up against the total cost of 2, 4 or 6 years of college a MBP is not all that expensive. It isn't all that expensive compared to one quarter at some of the more expensive places. What one gets out of a MBP purchase is that ability to complete most programs without investing in another machine a couple of years down the line. It is certainly a better four year investment than a MacBook. Especially looking at current hardware.
Dave
I read a review in PC Magazine (sorry
It was a super-pricey gaming laptop, but I was surprised at the resolution. Is there any chance Macbook Pros can get higher than the current 1440x900? Even 1680x1050 would be a great change.
Has there been any speculation about higher-res screens WRT coming updates?
That would be SO nice......
The 17" has the option of 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 if you get the hi-res display
You should only buy what you need now. If you need more later, then you can get more for the same amount of money and sell what you bought today. Having been through undergrad CS and almost done with my MS in CS nothing has ever flexed the power of any computer I've owned. The only reason I own a MBP over a MB now is that it's my primary computer and I like the high screen resolutions. Buying a MBP and a MP for school (and pretty much any other situation) is a poor use of your money.
It looks nice, but I'm not waiting for the "new" one to buy. I just don't have any money for it, and inadvertently when I do, the new one will be out. Woot!
Release Date
OK, here's my two cents on the Macbook Pro release date.
Here's why:
1. iPhone hype will have died down, as well as the hype from various other PC manufacturers releasing Montevina laptops (HP, Sony, etc.).
2. It's a Tuesday.
3. Macmall.com has a sale on all Macbook Pro models that ends on Sunday, July 27th, which to me appears to be a way to clear inventory for a new model.
OK, here's my two cents on the Macbook Pro release date.
July 29th
Here's why:
1. iPhone hype will have died down, as well as the hype from various other PC manufacturers releasing Montevina laptops (HP, Sony, etc.).
2. It's a Tuesday.
3. Macmall.com has a sale on all Macbook Pro models that ends on Sunday, July 27th, which to me appears to be a way to clear inventory for a new model.
both of my sisters who are in university got the mbp mainly because of the larger screen size. when working on multiple documents with lots of sites open for research, that extra screen space is very valuable. plus the mbp at the time was faster than the macbook, and can probably handle future OS's and software for longer.
I hate to say it, but I've been thinking the same. I'll probably just get my 17" Nehalem MacBook Pro and then a just-released Mac Pro a couple of years later. In college. When I need it.
Or I'll just go with what I'm planning to do now.
Hm. Is it conceivable that at least the 1680x1050 would trickle down to the 15.4" MBP? Is it physically possible with the screens they use?
I guess it lumps in with all the "every other PC maker is using component X now" justifications for wishing.
No not yet.
Product MacBook
Recommendation: Neutral - Mid product cycle
Last Release February 26, 2008
Days Since Update 140 (Avg = 192)
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//#MacBook
Product MacBook Pro
Recommendation: Neutral - Mid product cycle
Last Release February 26, 2008
Days Since Update 140 (Avg = 194)
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//#MacBook_Pro
OK, here's my two cents on the Macbook Pro release date.
July 29th
Here's why:
1. iPhone hype will have died down, as well as the hype from various other PC manufacturers releasing Montevina laptops (HP, Sony, etc.).
2. It's a Tuesday.
3. Macmall.com has a sale on all Macbook Pro models that ends on Sunday, July 27th, which to me appears to be a way to clear inventory for a new model.
I'm not saying that your hypothesis is entirely without merit, but we can't expect macmall to know anymore about Apple's plans than we do. Apple is very, very private about their new releases. Macmall may be ending their sale based on estimation, but by no means does that indicate that they know anything.
Cool theory though, I had actually noticed that macmall sale date as well.
So you're saying, "Screw the fact that every PC manufacturer has released the new chipset, let's just look at that rumor site's average of our release dates and put it out when they say to do so!"
That's right. The Air will be a yearly update, anyway, because of its custom CPU. Like the iPods and iPhone.