It would allow them to capitalize on all the consumers that are visiting their stores for the iPhone and then the various accessories they will be coming back for over the coming weeks. I think right now is a perfect time for the launch of a new laptop - we are into the new quarter and you don't want to make the back to school crowd wait too long.
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Well, chances are that Nehalem won't be availabe (in 'book, at least) until Summer 09...
Why would a college student "need" a MBP?
Most college students are already on a budget and the MB is all anyone needs to get through school perfectly.
I'm getting a Nehalem Mac Pro and Nehalem MacBook Pro for college. I'll be borrowing my mom's Montevina MacBook Pro* until whichever of those comes out first.
We're not rich and my parents are divorced. I'm buying them both with my own money.
Yes, I will post pictures. I have two 24" displays and a BD-R/HD DVD-ROM drive already lined up. My setup will be epic.
Here we go with the Dell vs. Apple pricing...
Constant problems
Contant breakdowns
Michael Dell laughing to the Bank, on the way to his private resort in Kona, Hawaii
Software that "barely works"
Software that works and easy to use
iLife '08
Reliability
Doesn't become out-of-date as early
Yes, decisions, decisions...
Tech support people who don't speak English clearly, and don't care about Americans anyways.
Constant problems
Contant breakdowns
Michael Dell laughing to the Bank, on the way to his private resort in Kona, Hawaii
Software that "barely works"
Software that works and easy to use
iLife '08
Reliability
Doesn't become out-of-date as early
Yes, decisions, decisions...
*face palm*
Can you lay off the PC FUD a little? I'd like to know how a Mac doesn't become out of date as quickly.
Sure they can. They've got a captive, pliant, worshipful group of customers who would run off a cliff before buying a "windoze peecee".
This thread is growing fast! Two pages since i started reading it earlier today
On topic, i really hope for a update tommorow, at least that Apple update the webshop and say they'll be ready to ship new MBP's in a month or something - like Sony has done!
On topic, i really hope for a update tommorow, at least that Apple update the webshop and say they'll be ready to ship new MBP's in a month or something - like Sony has done!
Please tell us more...
Just kidding..
so what are you going to study that requires such heavy computing? ^^ It surely will be a epic setup.
You are of course free to do what you want with your own money, but what do you need all that computing power for? Many people might opt for the MBP over the MB simply because of the higher resolution screens. Add in a second monitor and you have a great platform. But buying a MPB plus a MP just for school? Seems like serious overkill to me, unless you just want bragging rights. Even then, if it's bragging rights you want then there are much better ways to spend your money
*face palm*
Can you lay off the PC FUD a little? I'd like to know how a Mac doesn't become out of date as quickly.
Not PC FUD - Dell crap.... PC's are great (as long as you get something decent, or build-your-own).
People still use Macs well past 3 years, while most PC's are too slow. My friend that bought a Vista PC a few months ago will not be able to use Windows 7 on it 2 years from now.
Another friend of mine is still using his Blue G3 Tower with OS X on it...
Apple will do what is best for Apple, they could care less about making people wait as they know that people who want Macs will buy them regardless. Not to mention that the press is all hot for the iPhone right now and there is only so much room on paper and airtime for technology.
The other thing is, many of the people in the market for an iPhone have never even owned a Mac; I would risk guessing many don't even realize there's an alternative to Vista. To assume that someone coming to an Apple store to buy an iPhone is also be in the market for a new computer is preposterous. I'm not going to go to Best Buy, planning to buy a Sidekick, and buy a Vaio as well. Simple logic.
I'm surprised that Dell hasn't gone out of business if their products are so terrible.
I know people that still use Windows 98 SE. The average user at work is on a 2003-2004 Pentium 4 with 1-2 GB of RAM. I don't see a need to replace those towers.
Please share with me on how you know the system requirements for Windows 7. I'd like to know!
Once again what prevents someone from using old PC hardware?Another friend of mine is still using his Blue G3 Tower with OS X on it...
Ha Ha! You could've fooled me. You're not rich? Most "Not Rich" people (especially students) cannot afford a Mac Pro, (2) 24" displays and MBP. Also, consider yourself rich because most people cannot afford to go to college and only a few get scholarships. My question was, "Why would a college "need" a MBP". You didn't actually answer that.
I can tell you know, I have my own business and I run it on one 24" iMac Alu. That's all I can afford and my business is quite prosperous.
"There's a sucker born every minute" - P.T. Barnum
Great, my gaming rig's an HP Workstation, running XP of course (but no games "only for Vista" for me....)
Easy, take Vista's useable requirements, and double that for MS's next OS release...
(pattern?)Umm, trying to use newer programs? Trying to do more with it? Ever try doing video editing and DVD authoring on a Windows 98 SE computer?
So, let's agree to disagree.
Back on track.
I'm hoping that they take some of those new parts for the new MacBook and give us a new Mini too! I like mine, and everyone I told to buy one love theirs!
What's the reason for insulting someone for buying a Dell again? I'll be sure to pass it on to my fellow system administrators.
I don't see how you came to that conclusion.Easy, take Vista's useable requirements, and double that for MS's next OS release...
I'm sure video authoring and DVD authoring will be just as pleasant on a Power Mac G3. But with newer hardware you're going to need to use a newer operating system...Umm, trying to use newer programs? Trying to do more with it? Ever try doing video editing and DVD authoring on a Windows 98 SE computer?
Agreed. I spent the greater part of 3 weeks on the phone with Dell (2-3 hours per day, every day), just to order an LCD replacement for a one year old laptop that was out of warrently (LCD was actually made by Samsung). they cancelled my order twice, transferred between 20 people in 4 depts, and trying to get the replacement CD's was a nightmare.
My friend still does not have the laptop fixed, and he gave it to an I/T guy who works for Dell in Winston-Salem, NC.my 2 year old Dell XPS never could properly burn a DVD movie nor data disk. the windows OS got corrupted and I had to reload it, now the stupid bios and disk partition thinks there are 2 XP OS's on it, and i have to pick which one to load (only one of the options loads). Screen is also looking a little fuzzy.
Tech support (from the time I bought the machine) could not give me a straight answer, all they do is read from a script.
I closed my dell account, sent an email to Atty Coumo in New York who just won a major lawsuit against them, and also filed a complaint with the better business bureau. Oh, and they also jacked my preferred account to a 30% interest rate before I closed it, and I was never late on a payment.
Dell needs to go out of business.
And the software that barely works part... I am assuming you mean what comes pre-loaded when you buy a Dell, which is mostly trialware anyway. I had to uninstall most of it, as alot of it did not work or was not installed correctly.
I finally got the machine stable and then downloaded every tweak I could find to make it look, feel, and sound like a mac (rklauncher, and a few others - plus the loepard wall paper). Atleast when I have to use the dang thing, I feel like I am working on an Apple, even if it is just an illusion.
That wasn't Gkarri's point. People hold on to their Macs much longer than Windows based machines because they hold value and when the next version of Mac OS comes out it generally runs on much older Mac hardware which makes their old Mac worth keeping around.
Old Windows PC's become commodities and end up in only one place when their old OS is no longer supported, on the garbage truck.
Ha Ha! You could've fooled me. You're not rich? Most "Not Rich" people (especially students) cannot afford a Mac Pro, (2) 24" displays and MBP. Also, consider yourself rich because most people cannot afford to go to college and only a few get scholarships. My question was, "Why would a college "need" a MBP". You didn't actually answer that.
I can tell you know, I have my own business and I run it on one 24" iMac Alu. That's all I can afford and my business is quite prosperous.
I was valedictorian at my high school. A lot of college money comes from that. Because of my grades, my car insurance (and related) are low, and my mom takes care of that. I live in a small (bunch of idiots who don't understand that kids need things to do) town, so gas to and from work is virtually meaningless (there's nothing else to do, so I don't go anywhere else. You can imagine the boredom), and my place of work is a retirement community that pays quite well.
I don't buy anything, myself. I just save it all for my Mac Pro and MacBook Pro. I've wanted a top-of-the-line, bleeding-edge professional Mac desktop for the past twelve years (ever since I first saw a Performa 6100), and by saving, I'll have one.
What will I DO with that power? Ask some of the current Mac Pro owners. Is there really anyone who uses it all on a day-to-day basis? I'm going into computer science and will be going to grad school right after (maybe get a Ph.D. right away, but that's getting a little to far ahead). In getting a Nehalem Mac Pro and Nehalem MacBook Pro, I'm future-proofing myself. I won't NEED another computer before grad school. I won't NEED another computer before I get into the working world. You have to be frugal, you know.
Yeah, my displays? Two Soyo 24 inchers that I got for $250 each on Black Friday last year. They're great screens, and I couldn't pass them up when THREE of them cost the same as one 23" Cinema Display. The BD-R/HD DVD-ROM drive I got from NowDirect for cheap because I wanted to preserve a piece of history (HD DVD)
Agreed. I spent the greater part of 3 weeks on the phone with Dell (2-3 hours per day, every day), just to order an LCD replacement for a one year old laptop that was out of warrently (LCD was actually made by Samsung). they cancelled my order twice, transferred between 20 people in 4 depts, and trying to get the replacement CD's was a nightmare.
my 2 year old Dell XPS never could properly burn a DVD movie nor data disk. the windows OS got corrupted and I had to reload it, now the stupid bios and disk partition thinks there are 2 XP OS's on it, and i have to pick which one to load (only one of the options loads). Screen is also looking a little fuzzy.
Tech support (from the time I bought the machine) could not give me a straight answer, all they do is read from a script.
I closed my dell account, sent an email to Atty Coumo in New York who just won a major lawsuit against them, and also filed a complaint with the better business bureau. Oh, and they also jacked my preferred account to a 30% interest rate before I closed it, and I was never late on a payment.
Dell needs to go out of business.
And the software that barely works part... I am assuming you mean what comes pre-loaded when you buy a Dell, which is mostly trialware anyway. I had to uninstall most of it, as alot of it did not work or was not installed correctly.
I finally got the machine stable and then downloaded every tweak I could find to make it look, feel, and sound like a mac (rklauncher, and a few others - plus the loepard wall paper). Atleast when I have to use the dang thing, I feel like I am working on an Apple, even if it is just an illusion.
I hope Apple doesn't get too popular and go this route.
I was in the theater Sunday over the weekend and you should've seen the many people with their new iPhones!
The iPhone gets all the press. Mac mini update please!I hope Apple doesn't get too popular and go this route.
I was in the theater Sunday over the weekend and you should've seen the many people with their new iPhones!
Make the price of that forgotten little thing more reasonable.
First year students maybe, but once one gets into a program that has any sort of technical bent to it there is a very good chance that a MBP would be a better investment. The advantage is in the ability to better handle 3D and a better compliment of I/O.
Now the new Intel chip sets with the IGPU may be an effective answer to the 3D problem but that has yet to be determined fully.
Nothing wrong with being sexist, as frankly I some times wonder why some woman have a PC at all. Do realize though that doesn't apply to all woman, one can't tell form the outside if the woman might be an engineering student, or pursuing some scientific field where the advantages of a MBP would be worthwhile. Its like the old adage about judging a book by its cover. Of course if you are just constantly looking and not trying to take the covers off you will never find out what is inside.
Besides that I'd take a woman with old money well before I'd even consider one on welfare.
Dave
I've worked full time since May 1st and still can't afford a macbook pro on my current salary which is more than one can make before college experience... and I doubt there's a job you can get before college and work full time and make much money (unless its different across the pond).
Seeing as you were valedictorian you probably didn't deal drugs...so out of curiosity...how do you manage?
Also, dont' count on scholarships every year...I went from 20,000 last year to only 4,000 this year (USD). It's not like I lost it because of grades either. I was close to a 4.0 (got a B in heath haha). Life's a bitch.
Sweet setup though.
Seeing as you were valedictorian you probably didn't deal drugs...so out of curiosity...how do you manage?
Also, dont' count on scholarships every year...I went from 20,000 last year to only 4,000 this year (USD). It's not like I lost it because of grades either. I was close to a 4.0 (got a B in heath haha). Life's a bitch.
Sweet setup though.