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Dumb take.

  1. Real-world speeds never reach published speeds because of the nature of WiFi protocol + RF environment.
  2. The highest published speeds typically require clients with 3 or 4x radios. iOS devices don't have that, and nor do any current macs.
  3. Available bandwidth drops as neighbors upgrade to devices that use new spectrum. 6E devices have access to new frequency bands.
  4. In some markets (not the US) >1Gbps home connections are affordable
There is certainly a benefit to 6e.

That has been my experience. For me, whatever the highest advertised speed is, I cut that in half as a theoretical best case scenario that one 'might' get.
 
Apple wil release Wifi 6E as Wifi 7 is coming out?

Um...better late than never?
 
It's time for Apple to release new AirPorts with WiFi 7 support 😉


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Apple got rid of its AirPorts team. Now they are just run-of-the-mill in wireless. Wireless is something they have never really got right yet, just look at all of the bluetooth problems and 3rd part Airplay 2 problems. The thing with Apple is they rush to make the keynote and then have problems getting it right for years. They had to start over with the iCloud APIs. So I don't think we'll see this, too risky and not profitable enough.
 
Apple wil release Wifi 6E as Wifi 7 is coming out?

Um...better late than never?
Consumer adoption of 6E in consumers devices is still greatly lagging. A 2021 MBP using WiFi 6 has a link rate of 1055 Mbps as I check right now to router a room away. Would there be that much benefit to needing 6E going various places, not that I see, as most WiFI hot spots are certainly not 6E capable. Its maximum spatial streams is 2/MIMO. So Apple going to 6E would allow it to work with most recent routers, but not much else.
 
What ethernet adapter do you use for iPhone/iPad?
The one that is for people that can prove they have any use, whatsoever, for 36Gbps of internet speed on a phone or iPad. Heck, who needs more than what WiFi6 offers, really?
 
A rant? Too funny! No, merely a response to your comment that "Apple is always behind," referencing Apple Silicon as to why that's not true, and, explaining why Apple does not make WiFi routers.

I'm sorry if you're not able to understand that.

inferior storage, wifi, storage, screens. but somehow silicon, which is hardly 'in front' of everything else makes up for all that LMAO.
 
The one that is for people that can prove they have any use, whatsoever, for 36Gbps of internet speed on a phone or iPad. Heck, who needs more than what WiFi6 offers, really?
From a consumer side about the only thing would like a home theater kaleidoscope video server where a 1 Gbps connection would be necessary to download 4K UHD images that might be 66 GB or 100GB in size. For the 100GB image it would be 13.33 mins in optimal network conditions. I rather just use the disk, but to each their own on whats more convenient. :D
 
I choose ethernet. Always superior stability & speed.

Exactly. Would be nice if this 14" MBP supported 6E since it was around at the time. But I always plug in when I care about speed, and I'm lucky enough not to have the issue of wifi congestion.

Also I have yet to be near any 6E APs. They really messed up the timing, releasing it so soon after 6. At this rate 6E may be skipped over almost entirely.

Meanwhile Ethernet has been a steady gigabit for a long time now, and 10GE is probably easier to come by than 6E.
 
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inferior storage, wifi, storage, screens. but somehow silicon, which is hardly 'in front' of everything else makes up for all that LMAO.

My current Mac has 4 TB of SSD, 64 GB of memory, a 10 gigabit ethernet interface, four Thundebolt 4 ports, four USB ports. And is connected to an Apple 5K display that's absolutely outstanding (important for me as a photographer), three other 4K displays, and an iPad used as a mapping display. It's also dead quiet.

While your laughing your a** off, please tell me how that is inferior.
 
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Exactly. Would be nice if this 14" MBP supported 6E since it was around at the time. But I always plug in when I care about speed, and I'm lucky enough not to have the issue of wifi congestion.
Netgear was introducing 6E tri-band routers and 6E quad band Mesh routers, early and late 2021. Given the 14", and 16" MBP were introduced Nov 2021, then it was April 2022 Netgear's first 6E mobile router showed up. The point of those examples is to show how some other laptops vendors offering 6E connectivity is well before its is mainstream.
 
But I bet no-one is making any wifi 6E APs that are compact, discreet looking and equipped with Airplay and a mini TOSlink audio out jack. I miss those so much. As a bonus they were running so hot they could heat a small office.
 
saying *no one* uses an ethernet dongle with their smartphone is just a statement by someone who looks around their house and concludes that to be definitive proof.
"When was the last time that the common individual"... used a lightning to ethernet adapter? "No one" was pretty obvious hyperbole. You missed the point.

"most" is absolutely not true.
Yes, it absolutely is true. The majority of consumers personally own mobile devices only capable of Wi-Fi—without a specialized adapter they have not purchased nor have ever even considered purchasing. Not everyone personally owns a computer with an ethernet port anymore. Hell, even if they DO have a device with a built-in ethernet port many have likely never even used it in favor of Wi-Fi. Again, you missed the point.

Advancements in consumer wireless technology are incredibly relevant to the average user. Especially with the recent simplification of wireless naming standards, yes there are people who at face value will see "the number 7 is bigger than the number 6" which may contribute to their decision of making an upgrade. Though they may not fully understand how, their Wi-Fi experience could be benefited by increased range, higher bandwidth, superior client management, etc. etc.
 
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Consumer adoption of 6E in consumers devices is still greatly lagging. A 2021 MBP using WiFi 6 has a link rate of 1055 Mbps as I check right now to router a room away. Would there be that much benefit to needing 6E going various places, not that I see, as most WiFI hot spots are certainly not 6E capable. Its maximum spatial streams is 2/MIMO. So Apple going to 6E would allow it to work with most recent routers, but not much else.

Yes, but I have Nighthawk 6E and my friend's Samsung 6E phone rips the iPhone a new bleep-hole on wifi speed. Looking forward to when Apple supports it.
 
Advancements in consumer wireless technology are incredibly relevant to the average user. Especially with the recent simplification of wireless naming standards, yes there are people who at face value will see "the number 7 is bigger than the number 6" which may contribute to their decision of making an upgrade. Though they may not fully understand how, their Wi-Fi experience could be benefited by increased range, higher bandwidth, superior client management, etc. etc.
6E isn't a given with increased range. The 6 Ghz band was beneficial because it not used that much yet. It increases the number of channels in an extremely dense RF environment. AC to AX helped a lot with 5 Ghz range, but I haven't seen 6E being looked at like that, its AX extended into a 6Hz band.
 
6E isn't a given with increased range. The 6 Ghz band was beneficial because it not used that much yet. It increases the number of channels in an extremely dense RF environment. AC to AX helped a lot with 5 Ghz range, but I haven't seen 6E being looked at like that, its AX extended into a 6Hz band.
Agreed. I didn't necessarily mean increased range AND higher bandwidth—just the potential for an overall better experience.
 
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would bet on 6E, however sadly it seems they are trying to cut back where they can. i had the mbp 2011 13" which was the first macbook with 3x3 mimo, and i think they have gone back to 2x2 with all 2020 models onwards
think its more of a chip limitation

but yeah apple likes to cut costs.however,cutting on a 3k machine,you gotta be ****ing kidding me
 
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We’ve got a long way to go before wired backends that determine just how much of that Wifi speed is available- is going to become commonplace amongst home users. In Canada at least many are still transitioning over to or under single gigabyte bandwidth plans. Hopefully what does happen here is that the normalization as increased bandwidths become more common place coincides with some discounts to actually get it in the rest of the nations house without breaking the bank too bad, lol.
 
My current Mac has 4 TB of SSD, 64 GB of memory, a 10 gigabit ethernet interface, four Thundebolt 4 ports, four USB ports. And is connected to an Apple 5K display that's absolutely outstanding (important for me as a photographer), three other 4K displays, and an iPad used as a mapping display. It's also dead quiet.

While your laughing your a** off, please tell me how that is inferior.

good lord you are desperate to justify your purchases. have some self respect lmao.
 
good lord you are desperate to justify your purchases. have some self respect lmao.

Nice try. Nope, my purchases of computers or other products need no justification to others. Just responding to your ill-informed claims of Apple products being inferior:

"inferior storage, wifi, storage, screens. but somehow silicon, which is hardly 'in front' of everything else makes up for all that LMAO."

Try to stay on topic rather than sling insults at others. Again, how are Apple products so inferior?
 
Why did Apple stop making routers anyway?
Apple got into the WiFi Access Point business because they wanted to sell laptops with WiFi, and the choices for the other end were pretty abysmal - few options, bad user interfaces, poor performance and reliability.

Having a solid easy choice for the home/internet end of the WiFi connection was a big selling point early on. The AirPort sold a lot of WiFi-enabled laptops, and Apple laptops sold a lot of AirPorts.

But now, you can go into any BestBuy (or, heck, Walmart or Target), and have dozens of choices for WiFi routers - they may not has UIs that are as nice, but they work, they're cheap, and they're widely available. And, these days, if you get broadband internet (cable, fiber, etc.), often the ISP will provide a (sometimes mandatory) modem/router that includes a quite workable WiFi access point. Apple no longer has to make AirPorts in order to sell WiFi-enabled MacBooks. So, they focus on the (quite lucrative) part that no one else can make - MacBooks, iPhones, and iPads.

I, too, wish that Apple would get back into the WiFi router market with some really compelling offering.
 
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