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Intel to Launch New Mobile CPUs (Arrandale) in January?

thegoldenmackid said:
MacBook Pro, anyone? This is shocking news. I really didn't see this one coming at all. It's just so unpredictable and out of the blue. I really would like to check the source of this, this seems even beyond a rumor, this seems flatout made-up.
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Intel said last year just before the 45nm CPU's launched that they aren't going to milk them for a few years and will launch the 32nm early 2010.

Intel and AMD have access to each other's patents so the way Intel stays on top is by having the best manufacturing
 
Yixian said:
Tell that to half of the MBP users on this forum, many of them hope the next Pros are even thinner and less "pro" than the current ones :/
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Bubba Satori said:
They've got to be hobbits or anorexic super models if they can't pick up and carry around a six pound device.

Boot camp for the wimps. :D
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Before I got my MacBook Pro I used a notebook that weighed 5.9 pounds and was 1.35" thick. :eek:

That was an iBook G4. And my main issue with it was neither the weight nor the thickness…but its relatively low specs.

I can almost say the same thing about my MBP…if not now then in a year or two.
 
wizard said:
Why do I say that. Well one rumor has it that the first Arrandales will NOT have the built in GPU. Second ATIs offerings are very good hardware wise right now. Especially for low power. Since Apple does much of the driver development from what I can see the drivers might not be that bad. Third all things business are subject to change, if enough people walk away from Nvidia they will change their cocky ways.

As to Intel and it's impact on the GPU market, if they can't deliver decent graphics performance their customers will raise hell. Intel might not like it but all Apple would need to do is to build a few Macs with AMD CPUs to have Intel see the errors in their ways. Of course all things Arrandale are secrete now but the rumors are strong that intel will have alternatives to the built in GPU variants.


Dave
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from what i heard, you can disable the graphics core in the CPU if you decided to use the dedicated graphics. whether arrandale has GPU in it or not really a matter to most of the MBP line up (hoping IGP will die soon since nVidia cannot use the chipset technology from intel for these line of CPUs)
 
greg400 said:
I'm gonna take a guess and say that the high end 15-inch gets an i3, 17-inch get a i5 and the rest of the models are going to be higher clocked dual cores.
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That seems about right. Maybe the 15 inch and 17 inch would get an i3 and the 17 inch would have an i5 as a BTO. And with the higher clocked dual cores, you're so right about that. Look at the iMac updates, 3.06 Ghz (which used to be the highest) and 3.33 Ghz C2D's and i5's and i7's.
MadMacxxx said:
4th gen iPhone?
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The 4th generation iPhone is coming in June 2010.
 
the current line up as it is
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13" MB - 2.26 Ghz 3M L2 Cache - P8400 -$209
13" MBP - 2.26 Ghz 3M L2 Cache - P8400 - $209
13" MBP - 2.53 Ghz 3M L2 Cache - P8700 - $209

15" MBP - 2.53 Ghz 3M L2 Cache - P8700 - $209
15" MBP - 2.66 Ghz 3M L2 Cache - P8800 - $241

15" MBP - 2.80 Ghz 6M L2 Cache - P9700 - $348
17" MBP - 2.80 Ghz 6M L2 Cache - P9700 - $348

based on the price alone

Assumptions
#1. $16 difference between the old and new line up because of the integrated GPU inside the chip OR U$ value depreciation
#2. these are 35Watts TDP including GPU so they are equal to current PXXXX CPUs with 25 Watts TDP
#3. Prices based on wiki

the newer MB and MBP line would be
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13" MB - 2.26 Ghz 3M L2 Cache - i5 430M - $225

13" MBP - 2.26 Ghz 3M L2 Cache - i5 430M - $225
13" MBP - 2.40 Ghz 3M L2 Cache - i5 520M - $225

15" MBP - 2.40 Ghz 3M L2 Cache - i5 520M - $225
15" MBP - 2.53 Ghz 3M L2 Cache - i5 540M - $257

15" MBP - 1.60 Ghz 6M L2 Cache - i7 720QM - $364 - Quad Core
17" MBP - 1.60 Ghz 6M L2 Cache - i7 720QM - $364 - Quad Core

and no Core i3 in this line up. graphics how that going to play out also no idea.

reference i am using here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_future_Intel_microprocessors#Mobile_Processors
it is not a intel announced price but it should be close enough
 
scotteh said:
wait so this, "Core i5 CPUs will feature a graphics clock that runs at a base speed of 500MHz but can also run at speeds up to 766MHz."
means that there will be no seperate gpu? if so, you can say good bye to macbook pro from my college computer list.

edit: source is http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20091113PD209.html
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You can have a separate dedicated solution and the graphics modes are switchable between IGP and dedicated.

Why do people now think that Arrandale forces you to only use the onboard IGP? I've noticed this lately.
 
scotteh said:
wait so this, "Core i5 CPUs will feature a graphics clock that runs at a base speed of 500MHz but can also run at speeds up to 766MHz."
means that there will be no seperate gpu? if so, you can say good bye to macbook pro from my college computer list.

edit: source is http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20091113PD209.html
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You can rest assured that all but the very baseline MBPs will have discrete graphics cards. Just because the CPU has a GPU in it, doesn't mean that's all the CPU can ever use.

Think of the inbuilt GPU like the 9400M is now in the MBPs. It's there when you want to surf the web, but when you need more, the 9600's there to take over.

Eidorian said:
Why do people now think that Arrandale forces you to only use the onboard IGP? I've noticed this lately.
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Indeed, it's not like these will be the first MBPs to have more than one graphics processor.
 
shanmugam said:
from what i heard, you can disable the graphics core in the CPU if you decided to use the dedicated graphics. whether arrandale has GPU in it or not really a matter to most of the MBP line up (hoping IGP will die soon since nVidia cannot use the chipset technology from intel for these line of CPUs)
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That sounds like paying for some hardware you'll not be using?
 
2992 said:
That sounds like paying for some hardware you'll not be using?
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As far as Intel is concerned, I'm sure it would be cheaper to just disable hardware that already exists and sell for a cheaper price than re-tool all their crazy expensive machinery just to produce a run of otherwise identical chips sans GPU. I don't imagine it's much wasted silicon, considering its performance.
 
Erasmus said:
You can rest assured that all but the very baseline MBPs will have discrete graphics cards. Just because the CPU has a GPU in it, doesn't mean that's all the CPU can ever use.

Think of the inbuilt GPU like the 9400M is now in the MBPs. It's there when you want to surf the web, but when you need more, the 9600's there to take over.



Indeed, it's not like these will be the first MBPs to have more than one graphics processor.
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i see. my ignorance has depleted, thank you. makes sense.
 
Whats with the low clock speed of these Arrandale processors? Are the Arrandale chips actually slower than the current mobile chips within the Macbook pros? I don't get it. I need a very fast laptop for audio editing and am wondering if Arrandale is actually unsuited for what I do.
 
Arrandale - Core i7-620M - 2.66ghz

anyone read anything official about this i7 mobile chip?

Seems to be the one everyones hoping for.

EDIT: sorry I may have been a bit unclear.

The proccessor above will be the best possible result come feb for the Macbook Pro 15" and 17". I doubt clarkfield will be included in the next update due to thermal output.
I was just wether anyone had read any recent rumours about the release date of this processor?
 
The 15 and 17 inch MBP will get the same CPU's probly the high end i5's with integrated GPU plus discrete gpu. There is no reason to gimp a 15" laptop with a slower processor.. especialy when this is the most popular model going.

ranging from 2.2 to 2.8ghz depending what intel launches with.

now im hoping for a decent GPU since this is where the bottleneck is on the current MBP, the cpu/ram is pretty fast. a choice between the new ATI and nvidias latest GTX or GT's will do nicely.

stick in a 500gb 7200rpm HD and ill be in dual boot heaven.

lets hope the 7hr battery will become 9hr with the new low power components that arrandale brings to the table.
 
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