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Intel's Latest PC vs. Mac Ad Involves a 'Social Experiment' With Apple Fans

Cringe, I couldn’t even finish it. And I’m well aware of the advantages and disadvantages of both sides.
 
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There was nothing in that which made me say "Oh Wow I have to have this"
Did they show that to 500 people and only 7 wanted the PC after it?
It runs windows for a start. then it runs Intel Hardware.
They didn't exactly explain the "Upgrade" part. Ram and SSD?
SSD upgrades would be the only thing I would love to see. But 4k small screen by the keyboard. What for? I do Video Editing and none of what I saw made me want to switch because it was going to make my life better.
 
fod_dzug said:
To be fair, there is also anti-fanboy-ism as well. A lot of people would not touch apple products.
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See it in a different way. I bought my first Mac when the first Intel Mac appeared. Why? First of all I could run Windows in VM, so there was no downside to me.
Then Apples OS was based on OpenSource and open standards. Basically FreeBSD and OpenGL. It had a bash nearly everyone knows from Linux/Unix. Lots of development tools were available.

The hardware was awesome. Battery was replaceable with a press of a button. Umderneath the batteries was the replaceable RAM. Even the harddrive was replaceable - very easily.

The Macs had a lots of ports and shipped with all adapters you could need.

And finally it just worked. Anyone remembers that sh***y Windows software from Nokia or Siemens to sync your cellphone? With a Mac you just plugged in your phone and started iSync. Done!


Unbelievable today?


Remeber Steves words from 1995
“What ruined Apple was not growth … They got very greedy … Instead of following the original trajectory of the original vision, which was to make the thing an appliance and get this out there to as many people as possible … they went for profits. They made outlandish profits for about four years. What this cost them was their future. What they should have been doing is making rational profits and going for market share.”
 
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MacRumors said:




According to Intel's Ryan Shrout, the ad features each participant's "real" reactions instead of scripted ones. "It's surprising to see how many people that utilize tech still don't know the capabilities of the PC," he said in a tweet.
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The normal user is not the engineer that Intel is trying to make here.
These ads are stupid, if people want to play 60000 games they should go buy a console.
If they want a touchscreen they should go buy a tablet.
Intel are idiots, they will never realise real peoples problems. There is a reason Chromebooks and iPads exist, modern computing is all about focusing in programs and not OSs. By the time Intel realises, this their stock will lose another 90%
 
Intel must be really worried, It reminds me when Blackberry made fun of the iPhone only to go backrupt months later. BTW, the key point is not the hardware, it is the interface. Once you try macOS, you do not want Windows (much less Linux) even for free. And talking about hardware, ARM-based Apple Silicon Macs trounce Intel x86. This is just an example:

VMWare Fusion and The Apple M1 Chip: Q&A With VMWare’s Michael Roy
around 8-10x faster than that of similarly spec’d x86 hardware for many operations.
intuitivestories.com

VMWare Fusion and The Apple M1 Chip: A Candid Q&A With VMWare's Michael Roy

VMWare has a long history of producing excellent virtual machine software that has let thousands of developers test their programs across many operating systems and versions without the need for lots of computers. I use it to run different operating systems on my Mac system and currently have...
intuitivestories.com intuitivestories.com
 
I don't know how many people here are both Mac and PC people. I love my Macbook Air M1 and I also love my HP TG01 gaming PC. First has Apple M1 processor in it, the second has AMD Ryzen 7 5700G in it. Relevance to Intel? None.

Many Apple people might not know what is happening in the PC world. You buy a PC with an Intel CPU only if the PC you like does not have an AMD option. Because AMD is far more superior these days and Intel is heavily loosing ground in the PC market as well.

I'm very disappointed Intel making such ads. What is this? Kindergarten? Intel, you lost it, take it as a grownup. Just make a better, more competitive product. Intel Core architecture is old, it takes a lot of power and just does not produce competitive performance. Time to learn new tricks instead of these childish ads.
 
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What I miss about Windows:

  • Being able to easily play games.
What I don't miss about Windows:

  • Constant updates, often requiring me to restart my laptop.
  • Viruses.
  • Crashes.
  • Slightly weird UI, as if I'm supposed to be using a touchscreen but not really.
  • Poor build quality (of the laptops).
 
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BvizioN said:
What experiment? There was NO experiment. Just a complete staged ad, like ads usually are. I honestly hope you didn't think this was not staged!
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Exactly.

I'd love to know how many total people they interviewed. It was likely more than just these 12 Apple fans.

I wonder how many of them said "cool laptops... but these run Windows, right? No thanks..."

:p
 
Intel STILL doesn't get it! Its not about feature its the user experience! I used to build my own pc but I got frustrated with windows error, endless updates, malware and viruses. My first Mac was an eMac and I've never looked back since. The average life span of my MacBooks is around 8-10 years, which is damn worth it even if they can't be upgraded. Ive never met anyone using Windows laptop lasting more than 3 years without having to reformat..

This ad campaign is a desperate move from Intel and rightfully so... after seeing what Apple Silicone M1 could do they should be afraid.
 
Even Microsoft would rather work with AMD:
mspoweruser.com

Report: Microsoft and AMD are collaborating on a powerful ARM processor for Windows PCs

Microsoft and AMD already have a strong relationship with collaborations spanning multiple product lineup including Azure, Surface, Windows and Xbox. Tech Enthusiast Tron recently revealed that Microsoft and AMD working together on a powerful ARM processor that will power Windows devices...
mspoweruser.com

What are these pointless ads by Intel about Apple & Intel.
 
WilburMercer said:
What I miss about Windows:

  • Being able to easily play games.
What I don't miss about Windows:

  • Constant updates, often requiring me to restart my laptop.
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This. Now, it was a while since I run Windows. But at the time those never ending flood of extremely slow updates was driving me crazy.
 
vir said:
I mean they are right about everything. The majority of Apple users being under a spell without the self-awareness they are in fact so. Yes, correct. Macs don't run 98% of games available for Windows (and Linux). Yes, that's painfully correct too. Macs more and more are locked down devices that's can't be upgraded (it's fine, just keep buying new ones). Yes, that's true. Macs are a rather basic clamshell design without much else going on there (it's fine, just buy an iPad too). Yeah, that's about right.

The game thing is why I recently left, Apple crushed every 32-bit game I had for their vain M1 iron grip control, and then I discovered with my new PC I can actually add a second SSD? I can add more RAM? I can change out the battery? Like, this stuff is okay and under warranty? Seriously? Wow was I in lala land a bit too long.

And everything runs like butter on a 3060! No more of this choking on a Radeon Pro and fussing desperately to reduce resolution and settings nonsense. No more thermal nightmares needing to point a fan at my MacBook Pro to keep it from throttling. God, it's been a relief, it really really has.
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Did you buy a MacBook Pro for gaming!! well informed consumer. you are comparing laptops to desktops.
 
Well I consider macOS the biggest advantage of the Mac. Windows is just not built focused on usability, sometimes macOS can also have a better UX, but overall it is much better. I professionally need to use Windows sometimes and also use Linux. Apart from that the M1 benchmarks are blowing every other solution away, so hope M1X will arrive soon as my MacBook Pro is long time overdue after very intense usage. Intel should come up with better plans, maybe even start creating ARM or RISC-V cpu's.
 
All very well pointing out the upgradability of PCs and showing a foldback design laptop - implying they are upgradable. I checked the Yoga - as that is an obvious candidate. (Though there are others.)

Lenovo have changed from having an empty slot in C730 to all soldered on the current Yoga C740 (14). With an official maximum of 16GB even on the C730.

Microsoft site has a 2-in1 section with 9 machines. Not one allows more than 16GB. One maxes at 8GB and another at 4GB. And four have 4GB options - as if that is enough for pretty much anyone. (I had a Surface with 4GB and it drove me mad. 8GB is bearable.)

At least the MacBook 16 Pro starts with 16GB and allows the options of 32 or 64GB - even if it is to order only and costs a fortune. And I don't think there is a single current Apple computer that is available with less than 8GB.
 
oh so sick of this argument.. what pc people dont seem to to understand... and i cant speak for every apple user, i use it because of the software.. iOS and MacOS used to it.. reliable works across devices.. dont need to constantly manage and fix it or it looks hard on the eyes and hard to work with

make macOS available on any pc and you have a sale.. you cant compare no matter how amazing the hardware is..if it uses windows ... NO.
 
I love that it is Intel that does this since they have been outperformed by both Apple with ARM and AMD at this point. For most users the only reason to buy Intel is fanboyism, sure they still have some specific areas where they are the logical choice but mostly they are behind the competition these days.

I was using Intel for many years but I don’t buy my products based on specific brands, I buy them on functionality so now my gaming rig and NUC style server runs a AMD CPU instead.
 
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