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all intel needs to do is just show the AAA games you can play and then show the iPad games that M1 macbook pro users are forced to play...
 
I'm referring to Apple hardware being depreciated and hardware means more than the computer itself. Printers and scanners count as hardware, as do audio and video hardware.
i completely disagree — apple os is what matters, not sure where you're getting this hardware means more, but i suppose that could be a matter of opinion. and you kinda lost me with printers and scanners, apple never made those, what about them?..
 
Where I work it always makes me chuckle when people are using Samsung pay or whatever is used on android devices… it seems like a right hassle to pay for things, half of the time the card reader comes up with an error…

Whilst everyone and I mean everyone with Apple Watches and iPhones it’s a quick tap and it’s done…
 
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I didn't realize that Mac computer were perfect? They never break? They never fail to boot? The keyboards are flawless (we all know that wasn't the case a few years ago)? I guess the Genius bars are fake and why does Apple give a hardware warranty and why does everyone blindly buy Applecare if they don't break? Please explain...

You didn't say if it was your laptop with those issues or just something you read/heard somewhere and are recycling here? I would almost bet MacBooks have those same issues (not all, but some...just like Windows laptops have issues, not all, but some).
I didn’t say they were perfect. They have issues. However everything I mentioned has happened to me when using windows laptops/PCs. I’ve never had one without issues, be it software or hardware.

The last window laptop I had the pleasure of using was a Dell inspirion 15 inch laptop. Within the first year the charging port failed and the display stopped working. Both were fixed under warranty. After the warranty ended the display stopped working again and I had to pay to have it repaired. Later on the keyboard and trackpad stopped working and I had to use an external mouse and keyboard. I soldiered on with this. Then I had a lovely booting issue. Where the laptop would fail to boot. I’d have to leave it off for a few days before it would decide to boot up again. Refusing to wake up from sleep and having to restart it which risked it not booting up again. Then I had the lovely 20 minute boot ups, constant error messages, constantly being bugged to update software and the million and one error messages. 2 years in and it went in the trash. It did it’s usual refusing to boot up. Left it for a few days and it still wasn’t playing ball. In the end I just decided it wasn’t worth it anymore. They damn thing didn’t even have a working trackpad and keyboard.

I rememebr I had a lovely eepc (netbook) 2009/2010. Decide after 8 months it would just switch it self off after a few minutes. Failed motherboard and apparently it needed a new keyboard and all sorts.

These are some of my ‘favourites’ but they were all dreadful.

And it’s not that I’m just saying that only Apple devices are worth owning. I’ve used android devices and chromebooks and whist I prefer Apple devices I’d have no issues with using an android device or a chromebook. They work perfectly fine.
 
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Intel makes chips. Apple makes an ecosystem and the devices to make it work. Does Intel really think they compare?
Intel does way more than "chips". Intel is the company that oversees and actively pushes many standards critical for PC ecosystem. The design of PCs and laptops to a great degree is influenced by Intel.
 
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I don't completely disagree about the spell - I've got that more than a little, but I'd also argue Apple earned it, and it's not without some healthy criticism of Apple's design choices, especially in laptop. If Apple don't get those MBP updated soon and stick the landing, there probably will be some people wondering about their options.
 
all intel needs to do is just show the AAA games you can play and then show the iPad games that M1 macbook pro users are forced to play...

And the majority will still gravitate towards genshin impact on their M1 iPad Pro and iPhone, just for the accessibility.
 
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I didn't realize that Mac computer were perfect? They never break? They never fail to boot? The keyboards are flawless (we all know that wasn't the case a few years ago)? I guess the Genius bars are fake and why does Apple give a hardware warranty and why does everyone blindly buy Applecare if they don't break? Please explain...

You didn't say if it was your laptop with those issues or just something you read/heard somewhere and are recycling here? I would almost bet MacBooks have those same issues (not all, but some...just like Windows laptops have issues, not all, but some).

My Macs have caused me way fewer problems over the last decade. So it goes back to an oft-repeated trope that Apple products may cost more upfront, but they quickly pay for themselves in the form of greater productivity and fewer issues overall.
 
Hm. I see what Intel are doing here. The problem with this experiment is that they didn’t tell the subjects that the devices were not Macs and therefore wouldn’t run MacOS.

So yeah, Intel-powered laptops do have advantages over MacBooks which are highlighted in the video. The problem is that they also have drawbacks. Only half of these differences were pointed out in this video.
Are you seriously expecting Intel (or any company) to advertise the disadvantages of their products?
 
all intel needs to do is just show the AAA games you can play and then show the iPad games that M1 macbook pro users are forced to play...


i think most pc gamers are already pc gamers. there is no new market to gain.
 
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The windows cli tools STILL BLOWS today. I don't know how they are still making terminal apps as bad as they are in 2021.

Touchscreen just ain't gonna cut it for me.
 
My Macs have caused me way fewer problems over the last decade. So it goes back to an oft-repeated trope that Apple products may cost more upfront, but they quickly pay for themselves in the form of greater productivity and fewer issues overall.
All computers in the last decade caused way fewer problems than in the previous decade. This has nothing to do with Apple. There is nothing in Mac design that is exclusive to Apple. The parts that cause most problems: HDDs, SSDs, displays and to a lesser degree RAM and motherboards - are all designed and produced by companies other than Apple. In fact Apple manufactures nothing these days so the only thing that potentially might go for them is some special design but in reality, due to their desire to make the devices as small as possible, they often come up with questionable designs. Trash can MacPro and butterfly keyboard are probably the two most questionable computer related design decisions of the last decade among all computer vendors.
 
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"Would you want a dual-touchscreen laptop?"
Possibly, but absolutely not if it means bringing the keyboard to the front of the case like that. Some of us are old enough to remember that all laptops used to put their keyboards there. The industry abandoned that design once the PowerBook line showed us that pushing the keyboard to the back created space for the wrist to sit, which was WAY more comfortable to use. We've apparently forgotten the lessons we learned a few decades ago. And here's one the Touchbar taught us: without widespread support, those sorts of gimmicks end up being useless.
Definitely agree here although I just use an external keyboard. I find any laptop built-in keyboard uncomfortable to type on.
"Would you want a dual-touchscreen laptop?"
"Would you want a laptop that could fold over to be a tablet?"

Not if it means the keys and others interactive points are exposed. Even if it's smart enough to disable them reliably, it feels horrible to be squeezing a laptop or keyboard by the keys like that, and who wants to be putting their keyboard and touchpad facedown on surfaces?
I mostly agree with this to. But, I will say on my Lenovo, the track pad is recessed into the machine as with any laptop and the keyboard is recessed such that tops of the keys are flush with the top surface of that part of the machine. So, setting the laptop with the keys and track pad facing down on a flat surface should not be a problem any more than closing the lid. But as you said, I would hate to hold it in such a way that I can feel myself pressing the keys while in "tablet mode."
"Would you want a dual-touchscreen laptop?"
"Would you want the ability to customize hardware?"

I'd love it! But what's the catch? Oh. I have to manage driver updates, check device compatibility for my components, tweak .ini files to make software run, and engage in other nonsense of the sort that I left behind decades ago? No thanks. My daily machine needs to be more reliable than that. Oh, and it's bulkier and more prone to breaking? Why didn't you say so up front?
I didn't care about having a single touch screen laptop. The machine I chose happens to have one, but I barely ever remember it has one much less use it that way.
"Would you want a dual-touchscreen laptop?"
"Would you want a device that could play all these games?"

Absolutely! But that's such a low priority compared to everything else. I built a Ryzen gaming rig back in 2018 (better bang for the buck than what Intel's been putting out for the last few years), and I absolutely love the thing, but I'd sacrifice it without hesitation if I was forced to pick which to go without between it and my iPhone, iPad, or Mac. Oh, and despite going months between gaming use, it's the only electronic device I have to regularly maintain, whether it's things inexplicably breaking that used to work (e.g. compulsory Windows updates break drivers), long-running apps that need to be re-launched (e.g. Windows is useless at restoring app state after those compulsory updates), or having to tweak the aforementioned .ini files before a game I just purchased will run.
50,000+ games sounds exhausting. And when you consider there really aren't that many types of games, you might think a bunch of those are almost the same game but with different graphics; different characters; etc. I don't think a lifetime would be enough to sample all of them. The App Store has plenty of games, at least for me. If I ever get the time to play any of them.

Oh, and does that 50,000+ game selection include Mario or Zelda? I kind of doubt it.
"Would you want a dual-touchscreen laptop?"
All designs come with advantages and drawbacks, but what they've done here is isolate the advantages and ask people if they like them, without regard for the drawbacks. That's dishonest. The reason many of us choose Apple is because they have a reasonably good sense about what to say "no" to when making those decisions.
I suspect the reason Apple has a good idea about what works and what doesn't is because they prototype stuff. Then they spend time trying to use it. After a period of time, they can then say "you know what? This sucks" with conviction and authority.
 
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(Assuming you believe this wasn't completely acted.)

Maybe they are just random people coming to a customer interview: People who did not feel strange that they had to sit down for pro make-up before interview, or question having to have many retakes for the reaction or notice the 10 person camera and audio crew with full 5 camera studio setup in the room. If that is the case, then the reactions are spot on :)
 
The windows cli tools STILL BLOWS today. I don't know how they are still making terminal apps as bad as they are in 2021.

Touchscreen just ain't gonna cut it for me.
Are you talking about cmd.exe or PowerShell or various flavors of Linux one can install using WSL on Windows? PowerShell is probably the most powerful shell there is (but it's not very suitable for regular users). And the Linux shells are the same shells as what Macs have. I am not sure your point has any merits today.
 
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