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No matter how cool it looks, the minute I see Winblows, I want nothing to do with it. It's remarkable that some of the applets in Windows 10 have nearly the same interface from Windows 95. Some parts of Windows 10 have the new interface, and some put you in a time machine that goes back 25 years.

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Where I work it always makes me chuckle when people are using Samsung pay or whatever is used on android devices… it seems like a right hassle to pay for things, half of the time the card reader comes up with an error…

Whilst everyone and I mean everyone with Apple Watches and iPhones it’s a quick tap and it’s done…
I’ve used Samsung pay and it’s worked 9/10. I think it’s quite reliable.
 
That two screen laptop is a monstrosity. Two different screen techs, two different screen finishes (glossy/matte), there's no way the colors are the same between the two views. Then, the hell that is the off-center keyboard, tiny trackpad, and the fact that it's running windows.

Seriously, this is about as cringy as that stupid chevy commercial when they were trying to make it seem like that car was totally as amazing as a Mercedes, bmw, audi, or other expensive luxury car -- because it had a leather steering wheel!
 
Are you talking about cmd.exe or PowerShell or various flavors of Linux one can install using WSL on Windows? PowerShell is probably the most powerful shell there is (but it's not very suitable for regular users). And the Linux shells are the same shells as what Macs have. I am not sure your point has any merits today.
The great thing about Macs, you can go to terminal and download source projects from GitHub and make them on the CLI. Windows either has a executable or you're out of luck.
 
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Intel... My MacBook Air M1 does all of that without a fan and getting hot, CPU never went up to more than 45% since I got it! My son's MacBook Air 2020 (i5) on the other hand, struggles, with fan at maximum just playing Hearthstone... I wasn't sure Apple Silicon would deliver, but it does!
The problem is apple willfully don’t provide two things in any product.
1: games
2: upgradability.

I love the Max os and iOS.
but iPad are trash( good luck transferring GoPro data to edit anything.

and games are a joke, forcing anyone who have an interest in gaming to invest in windows instead. No normal person buys two computers for one separate task.

and the impossibility to upgrade RAM, M.2/ssd memory and the consistency of dongles for everything.

this forces people like me to buy a PC and perhaps down the line a cheap as mac mini
Mac pro is outrageously expensive for anyone not a professional
 
I’ve used Samsung pay and it’s worked 9/10. I think it’s quite reliable.
Most of our customers seem to struggle with it either taking ages to load up, not scanning on the card reader correctly, or just not working at all. Never seem to have any issues with Apple Pay at all.
 
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I don’t get the whole ”pick only one” mentality. I use a Mac for work, an iPhone for organising and communication, an iPad for reading and media consumption while in bed, but I also use a PC for my home office/gaming and another PC for my home theatre pc setup.

There are times when one frustrates me more than the other, but that changes back and forth. I hate how upgrading to a new OS version on a Mac terrifies me every time since the last 3 upgrades have cost me days of work to get things running like I want them (if even possible at all). For a while Windows updates caused me to lose all my windows configurations when updating, but that seems to have stopped. Anyways, currently not one system satisfies all of my desires from it, and I don’t really buy into the idea that one is less problem prone than another either.
Pick one mentality works by the logic of money don’t grow on trees.
Ether you buy a mac for only work an no fun. Or you buy a PC that you can do work and fun.

apple should absolutely provide GPU support to the next M2 max and pay game studios to provide their titles on the mac. Provide the superiority of the mac platform with that piles of cash.
 
Then why is Intel trying so hard to appeal to Mac users and their 7% market share?

Smells like desperation. :p

Look... I'm a Windows guy. Always have been. My primary computer is a beefy custom-built Intel desktop.

But my next desktop will be built with AMD Ryzen inside. Sorry Intel.

And my next laptop will be an M1 Macbook Air. I've already been using iPhones and iPads for decades so I want to dip a toe into the Mac world. Battery life on M1 machines makes it great for a portable computer. No Intel there either.

But I'm just one man. I'm not gonna affect Intel. Like the comment above says... Intel isn't going away anytime soon. So again... why does Intel seem so desperate lately?

These ads are cringe.
First rule of warfare. You don’t allow the enemy the time to become a legitimate threat. You do all you can today, not when it’s to late
 
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Intel is chips. Apple is laptops. Are they going against macs? They should be focusing against amd.
 


Intel today shared a new ad titled Breaking the Spell: Social Experiment. In the four-minute video, Intel invites 12 supposed Apple fans to a focus group showcasing features of "upcoming devices" that were, in fact, PCs that are already on the market. The ad was spotted earlier by French website MacGeneration.


The video starts out by saying that many Apple fans only care about Apple products, and Intel attempts to change that viewpoint. The supposed Apple fans are ushered into a room that looks similar to an Apple Store, creating the impression that they are being shown new Apple products, but the devices are actually PCs powered by Intel processors.

According to Intel's Ryan Shrout, the ad features each participant's "real" reactions instead of scripted ones. "It's surprising to see how many people that utilize tech still don't know the capabilities of the PC," he said in a tweet.

The ad is part of Intel's #GoPC marketing campaign that it launched last year after Apple started transitioning to custom Apple Silicon chips in Macs. Intel even recruited former "I'm a Mac" actor Justin Long for some of the ads.

Article Link: Intel's Latest PC vs. Mac Ad Involves a 'Social Experiment' With Apple Fans
This is Intel's shot at the M1. That's it.
 
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So, they're not completely wrong.

First, touchscreen keyboard? Go F yourself. DO NOT WANT.

Touchscreen on a laptop? Meh. Really, meh. Don't care, don't want, don't need, have had before and never used. No, not on a Mac, I've been around a long time and I've used a LOT of computers. Touchscreen was cool and exciting on a display in 1982, when I played with one at the world's fair. It's GREAT on a phone. It's a LOT less useful on a bigger display, and YES, that includes the iPad, which is a toy, not a computer.

Upgradeable RAM and storage? YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!! Sorry, fanbois, these are critical Apple screwups. There is ZERO excuse for the garbage Apple is doing now.

Laptop that opens more than a MacBook Pro does? Would be kinda nice. Not critical, and I'd really not want to give up reliability for foldability. But hey, Apple's current thin fetish ditched reliability anyway, so why not?
 
"Would you want the ability to customize hardware?"
I'd love it! But what's the catch? Oh. I have to manage driver updates, check device compatibility for my components, tweak .ini files to make software run, and engage in other nonsense of the sort that I left behind decades ago? No thanks. My daily machine needs to be more reliable than that. Oh, and it's bulkier and more prone to breaking? Why didn't you say so up front?

why can’t we just have the option? No disadvantage exist to our ability to change the m.2 drive or just the ability to ad a m.2 drive if you insist on soldering it.

why not give us the ability to upgrade the ram? Or at least the ability to ad one or two extra sticks if you are going to insist on soldering things down?
"Would you want a device that could play all these games?"
Absolutely! But that's such a low priority compared to everything else. I built a Ryzen gaming rig back in 2018 (better bang for the buck than what Intel's been putting out for the last few years), and I absolutely love the thing, but I'd sacrifice it without hesitation if I was forced to pick which to go without between it and my iPhone, iPad, or Mac. Oh, and despite going months between gaming use, it's the only electronic device I have to regularly maintain, whether it's things inexplicably breaking that used to work (e.g. compulsory Windows updates break drivers), long-running apps that need to be re-launched (e.g. Windows is useless at restoring app state after those compulsory updates), or having to tweak the aforementioned .ini files before a game I just purchased will run.
Why should fun need to be prioritized away from work? Why should you even need to pick between a PC for work and gaming or just a max for only work?

the lack of games on the max is entirely a result from apples anti gaming behavior.
No laptop/iMac/ mini with modern GPU hardware. Bad driver support by apple with other GPUs. The insistency of having 5+ year old OpenGL drivers (when they used them) no vulkan support( cross platform GPU code) now insisting like Microsoft with their locked down ActiveX and now apples Metal. Metal is now apple exclusive.
apple gives zero incentives for games to be made for Mac…

I could buy a 6k Mac Pro from 2018 with a crappy overpriced GPU if you plan to play games
Or perhaps a Mac Pro from 2012 with PCIe 2.0 and a CPU not even able to compare to an i3 today
 
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The great thing about Macs, you can go to terminal and download source projects from GitHub and make them on the CLI. Windows either has a executable or you're out of luck.
This has not been the case for many years. You just install, say, Ubuntu Linux in WSL from Microsoft Store and use the regular git commands in Bash or tcsh or whatever shell you prefer (in a new Windows Terminal). In most cases, one will be using VSCODE which integrates with source code management systems like git/github just fine.
 
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The problem is apple willfully don’t provide two things in any product.
1: games
2: upgradability.

I love the Max os and iOS.
but iPad are trash( good luck transferring GoPro data to edit anything.

and games are a joke, forcing anyone who have an interest in gaming to invest in windows instead. No normal person buys two computers for one separate task.

and the impossibility to upgrade RAM, M.2/ssd memory and the consistency of dongles for everything.

this forces people like me to buy a PC and perhaps down the line a cheap as mac mini
Mac pro is outrageously expensive for anyone not a professional
Two?

<looks around room><loses count at 25><and that's just one room, pretty sure the count is well over 100 in the house>

Ok, I'm not really 'normal'. But yeah, lots of 'normal' people have no problem with having two computers these days.
 
Ninety percent of the world's PCs run Intel and Windows. That isn't going to change any time soon. Apple Silicon is a blip.
Right. And this ad won’t change that fact much. At the MOST they could possibly hope for, it goes from 90% to 98%? We agree Apple Silicon is a blip, I’m sure Intel recognizes that, too. So… why even acknowledge that a competition exists?
 
Then why is Intel trying so hard to appeal to Mac users and their 7% market share?

Smells like desperation. :p



But I'm just one man. I'm not gonna affect Intel. Like the comment above says... Intel isn't going away anytime soon. So again... why does Intel seem so desperate lately?
My question, too :) Intel is around for the long haul, this commercial isn’t altering the status quo much. It’s not even doing what the Mac vs PC ads did which was introduce to millions to the Mac that had no knowledge of it before (everyone knows who/what Intel is).
 
Don't get me wrong, $1800 mac and I can't play games easily without some crazy reboot, powercycle egpu nonsense.... Really really wish I could play PC games and/or apple committed to games on a mac like they said they were going to.
 
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No matter how cool it looks, the minute I see Winblows, I want nothing to do with it. It's remarkable that some of the applets in Windows 10 have nearly the same interface from Windows 95. Some parts of Windows 10 have the new interface, and some put you in a time machine that goes back 25 years.

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very true ... yet so many here complain about the changes in Safari 15 o_O:eek:
 
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