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Excited. A quad core 13" rMBP is what I wanted and the Iirs Plus being paired with it was probably what Apple was waiting for.

Then again, 6 cores + higher wattage in the 15" would also be a big step up...

Just remember, at the end of the day, power dissipation rules.

You might have more cores, but the clock frequency might be reduced to keep the thermals in check.
 
You can get a Dell with the new chips next months.
True and Dell and HP have been selling 8th generation i5 and i7 laptops on their high end models for 6 months now. Apple is always one or more generations behind. I think Apple does it to get a better unit cost price on the older CPU's. But maybe their poor laptop sales (except for the Macbook Air) will drive them to use the latest processors in all their laptops.
 
True and Dell and HP have been selling 8th generation i5 and i7 laptops on their high end models for 6 months now. Apple is always one or more generations behind. I think Apple does it to get a better unit cost price on the older CPU's. But maybe their poor laptop sales (except for the Macbook Air) will drive them to use the latest processors in all their laptops.
These chips STILL don't support LPDDR4....

Theres a reason Apple is always a gen behind, and it's Intel's **** roadmaps for the specs Apple cares about, mainly power consumption.
 
I have two 13" PC laptops both quad-core processors (i7-8550U & i7-8650U); it's pathetic that Apple is this far behind. They used to be on top of things like this when it came to updating to the latest processors and such.

And these laptops are as thin and light as my Macs and they all last 10+ hours a day on one charge.
 
I am using Citrix VDI on my MBP for the rare things I need Windows for. (Mainly some internal stuff which requires internet explorer, or SAP).
it works great but you need a decent internet pipe.
I always need a decent internet pipe anyway so nothing new there ;). I'll give it a look.
 
LOL.

Intel released 8th generation processors that are suitable for MBP's LAST SUMMER.

Apple's Accountant King prefers the added margins of selling old hardware at brand new prices.

And Apple customers prefer to pay extra for less because of the good feeling it gives them not to have to go near yucky yucky M$.

I see no victim.
 
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What? What? Did someone mention mac mini?
 
It wasn’t like that in the past.

So they can gain more profits or customers can buy at lower costs?

And because quite a lot of Apple consumers are in the bag. These consumers will not look at competition, and are an automatic Apple purchase no matter what they put out. In that situation, Apple has no incentive to stretch or be ambitious. In fact they would be foolish to spend any money to be better as that would be leaving money on the table.
 
Haha, classic Intel! As soon as they hear the news of Apple switching from Intel the stock slipped a few points, immediately Intel reached out into its proverbial magic tote and pulled out a CPU core design that paves way for the next gen i9. I bet it is another Xeon core design announced by Intel as the new i9 lineup like it did during the Ryzen announcement. AMD should announce a next gen EPYC processor lineup, suddenly Intel may not have anywhere to go.
 
But many others do, including myself.

Fortunately there's a lot of choice out there offered by loads of other manufacturers that are willing to make a different set of engineering tradeoffs.

Very true, but for the largest company in the world it wouldn't exactly take a huge effort to have TWO options for the high-end MBP. With 32gb... and without. Seems like an easy decision to me. After all... Apple's first priority is to sell product and make money. Two options would allow Apple to *SELL* products to consumers with both needs.
 
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After yesterday's rumor about Apple "dropping Intel's chips" in 2020, how much of a freeze will that put on 2018 and 2019 Mac purchases?

Not to mention, 16GB is just not enough for the Pro laptop...perhaps this is the type of thing that is pushing Apple to consider dropping them - or at least getting Apple to leak that it is considering it in order to get Intel to wake up.

A switch would be a mixed bag: good because Intel has been missing critical items in their lineup, bad because it is much easier to repurpose an old Intel based Mac as something else running Linux etc.
 
True and Dell and HP have been selling 8th generation i5 and i7 laptops on their high end models for 6 months now. Apple is always one or more generations behind. I think Apple does it to get a better unit cost price on the older CPU's. But maybe their poor laptop sales (except for the Macbook Air) will drive them to use the latest processors in all their laptops.
Can you enumerate the occasions when new MBPs, at the time of release, were one or more generations behind in terms of the specific CPU models? If both Apple and Intel release new 'generations' once per year without coordination, Apple will be behind by one generation for, on average, six months. When Apple lengthens the cycle by, eg, three months, it will be behind for, on average, nine months.
 
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You aren't going to see these processors in the new MB now. Apple would never offer a MacBook with a better processor than the MacBook Pro.
I don't think any of these chips are low-powered enough to work in the MacBook anyways. Aren't the processors in that thing sub-25w or something like that?
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Apple could come out with a mind blowing mac mini, if they wanted to. Something like the current mac pro or the cube with a thermal core, a modular design, easy access to ram modules and pci express ssds, that are used in other computers... thunderbolt 3, support for external graphic cards and VR sets...

... if they wanted to...
ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease...
 
Intel has been semi-stuck the past few years, but they do release new CPUs on a regular enough basis that Apple could upgrade machines every 1-2 years. Apple just CHOOSES not to. For example, there is no excuse for the Mac mini being stuck where it is.

As for RAM... Hello Apple, get over your obsession with thin. Low power DDR-4 would be nice, but it's not crucial. Put in a bigger friggin battery!! All the other notebook manufacturers ship notebooks with regular RAM, and it works just fine thank you. Using a bigger battery does not mean doubling the size of the laptop, a few millimeters should do it. Put the PRO back into the Pro laptops, not everything has to be über "thin and light."
 
And because quite a lot of Apple consumers are in the bag. These consumers will not look at competition, and are an automatic Apple purchase no matter what they put out. In that situation, Apple has no incentive to stretch or be ambitious. In fact they would be foolish to spend any money to be better as that would be leaving money on the table.
To be fair, a lot of those "in the bag" Apple customers are also perfectly happy to just sit on their current machines for years and years because of their longevity. Me for example. My current MBP will continue to serve me just fine for the next year if Apple doesn't hit me with some worthwhile upgrades in June.
 
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