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My friends $150 android phone from two years ago lasts for three days without needing a charge. Doesn’t lag, doesn’t even talk about csam. While I don’t trust google apple kinda screwed the pooch with the forced upgrade iPhone 11 Pro lags, 5 hour battery, and now with csam eh. I’m looking at flip phone and buying a dslr.
The problem with what apple is doing vs what everyone is doing is that apple is deliberately putting what is effectively a back door in the iOS, ipadOS, and macOS software. The users that upload to Google photos have no delusion that their data is free from being scanned. We know that if we upload csam related stuff we expect Google to step in and as well as law enforcement. Apple on on the other hand portray iOS and Apple as a security and privacy focus software and company. So for apple users to not be affected by this new csam scanning feature, they must disable icloud, photos upload, and iMessage. That means going back to sms as the default. How user friendly is that?
Apple use to fight government asking for user data in icloud, but now if they go ahead with the backdoor, a judge can say, you cant before but you now have the capability to scan a hashed database of exploited kids, well here is a database of known bad actors, scan for that too.
In China, the ccp is ecstatic because they didn't have to lift a finger to compell apple to create this backdoor...but now in the next few years apple will be a pawn of the geopolitical trade war US vs china pawn will be force to scan for dissedent and Pooh bear images linking to president Xi. And Apple will comply as it's condition to do business in China. The ccp is ready to ban apple to give their own phone maker more sales. And Apple being capitalist corporation will want to capitulate in order to keep sales in China and access to pennies on a dollar labor workforce from the likes of foxconn.
If I didn't anything wrong why should I be worried, sometimes it's not always about you.
Thanks Apple, privacy and security at its finest.
Apple use to fight government asking for user data in icloud, but now if they go ahead with the backdoor, a judge can say, you cant before but you now have the capability to scan a hashed database of exploited kids, well here is a database of known bad actors, scan for that too.
In China, the ccp is ecstatic because they didn't have to lift a finger to compell apple to create this backdoor...but now in the next few years apple will be a pawn of the geopolitical trade war US vs china pawn will be force to scan for dissedent and Pooh bear images linking to president Xi. And Apple will comply as it's condition to do business in China. The ccp is ready to ban apple to give their own phone maker more sales. And Apple being capitalist corporation will want to capitulate in order to keep sales in China and access to pennies on a dollar labor workforce from the likes of foxconn.
If I didn't anything wrong why should I be worried, sometimes it's not always about you.
Thanks Apple, privacy and security at its finest.
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We're not. And that isn't a problem because we aren't paying a premium for the "privilege" of being gaslighted about privacy. The reality is that no one has privacy.
For example: People think that if they never created a login for Facebook that Facebook has no information on them. Those people are wrong.
why would I care, of course, it will 99% of the population doesn't care. It's disappointing to those who do. Macrumors is that 1%
Historically Apple has respected this dynamic without overstepping with the OS. Many feel they are now significantly overstepping with the operating system.
I doubt that many outside of Tech Blog readers have ever heard about Apple's CSAM code.
Even if some did mange to hear about it, most would only have heard that Apple is going after people making or downloading CSAM images and they would think that's a good thing. It's unlikely that the part about searching people's Apple devices without a warrant is ever mentioned in whatever source they used to learn about this issue.
I'm looking at Samsung as well. I like their Secure Folder - it allows for a completely secure session within the phone itself, separate from other app/logins (also allowing you to have two logins on the same app if need be).
Edit: I also really like the higher refresh rate. It's not a deal killer to not have it, but it does make the user experience really nice and smooth when you do have it.
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±17%, as a result of CSAM, alone, according to https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/will-you-leave-the-apple-ecosystem-because-of-csam.2307591/
My wife and I did, four years ago. We'll be going back to Android.
No, it has not. Not what Apple plans to do. You and some others may regard the difference in the ways they're each approaching it as a distinction without a difference, but many do not--including the whole of the security and privacy communities.
Furthermore: It's not just that Apple is going to be installing spyware on iPhones, iPads, and in MacOS (that last really floored me, btw). Not for me. For me it's also that, with the entirety of the security and privacy communities telling Apple "Don't do this! It's a very bad idea!", they're forging ahead with it, anyway. This strikes me as highly-questionable judgement. Arrogance? Hubris? So, even if I could live with spyware being installed on my stuff: Can I trust Apple's judgement, going forward?
Nope.
We've seen no announcement from Apple they plan to implement E2EE and, in fact, they recently pulled back from previous plans to do so.
That's a very good point. Without knowing the nitty-gritty details of the survey, including the exact wording of the questions and the order in which they were presented, you can't really know how accurate are the results.
To those leaving the Apple ecosystem for whatever reason(s): Do you really think they care how well Apple does financially? My wife and I are leaving. We don't care. No, wait... I lied. We do care. We have stock in Apple, so we're just fine with Apple doing well. But we won't be buying any more Apple products.
Unfortunately I fear this is true. "Mainstream media" has hardly touched the topic, and when they have touched it, they don't explain it well.
The "wife test" showed me that it might actually sway the general public... a little bit. When I told her about it, she said, "Hmm, that is a little creepier and I'm not sure if I like that."
That said, she didn't take that any further and my guess is the inconvenience of switching platforms would keep her from changing regardless... which might be a testament to the state of our society right now (and we're not young either).
Should we be surprised? After learning that iPhone 13 is getting the features that Android phones had for years (120Hz refresh rate, always-on display etc.) why would Android users suddenly decide to switch to iPhone? If anything, this may make iPhone users realize how outdated Apple hardware is.
The new iSpyphone is not going to appeal to a lot of people. But I'll be sure to ask my friends how they like their new spyphone.
You're right, at least semantically. No Apple won't scan your local images like other drive providers do once the images are on their cloud drives, they do worse IMO. They locally store a database of known images that compares to the images on your phone locally and doesn't make it to Apple unless there is a match, sounds benign enough. But again this is "looking" at your images on your phone locally (or at least "looking" at the images hashtag). The fear is that this can be expanded to detect other things on your phone locally, without having to have uploaded those images. You can even see the lines blur right in front of your eyes, as in that same article you sent, Apple alludes to expanding this to also include videos.
Is this just because of CSAM? I do plan on turning photo sync over iCloud off, but will stay with Apple.
I didn't think that would make a difference for me, but I was wrong, it really is better looking and smoother that way. I also like having both face-id and fingerprint on the power button too.
Apple scanning your stuff before encryption is as smart as OnlyFans banning explicit content. Apple needs to loose hundreds of billions of dollars for this so they straighten the ship and we have one company on the side of privacy again before it is too late. Whatever their real reason for this is, it’s inexcusable, and CSAM is a BS excuse given that it only works on hashes of known images. Even if you want one, avoid buying an iPhone as long as possible so they abandon this immediately as they bleed cash.
Steve would never have let this happen and he probably would have fired anyone just for suggesting it, it is such a stupid, company ending idea. If he doesn’t get the idea and back off soon, it’s time for Tim to take his massive payoff and retire.
Steve would never have let this happen and he probably would have fired anyone just for suggesting it, it is such a stupid, company ending idea. If he doesn’t get the idea and back off soon, it’s time for Tim to take his massive payoff and retire.
And also once more, that door already opened when the technology became available (many years ago) and already can't be closed. Any future abuse of that technology has no dependency of Apple using it for CSAM scanning.
Even if Apple does a 180 on this, the capacity still remains to do on-device scanning for any other purpose in the future, either overtly, or more to the point covertly which if you subscribe to the view that Apple would bow to pressure from a third party, could quite easily be baked into the OS already. I personally don't take that view, but I'm perplexed why people who mistrust Apple that much also think Apple would be open about it.