Been an iPhone user for 13 years. Planning to switch to a Linux-based phone, the Librem 5.
That’s going to be a huge downgrade in terms of usability and general usefulness. But freedom and privacy have become more important to me.
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That’s going to be a huge downgrade in terms of usability and general usefulness. But freedom and privacy have become more important to me.
Yeah, it's one of those things people don't do often enough; people don't take their own advice enough either.
Unfortunately you are completely missing the point. But it's OK. Nobody forces you to abandon your iPhone, if you are happy with it...
People running a Google OS are concerned about privacy? That sounds pretty rich to me.
The numbers are clear, no one likes Face ID. Fingerprint scanner is superior.
Hard to imagine in your parents basement I know but Apple is interested in making money and increasing marketshare
Was planning to update to the latest top spec Pro Max and get new Watch, instead am jumping ship along with canceling all my Apple paid subscriptions. There are some really nice options that are cheaper than iPhone and that don’t scan your devices.
There's a reason Steve Jobs (may he rest in peace) wanted to wage thermonuclear war on Android. He saw the threat. He was right.
Maybe Apple should skip the "13" name like the skipped the "9" (an unlucky number in parts of Asia). Some crazy superstition about the number 13 being unlucky. Frankly, I find it ridiculous, since I was born on the 13th. A Friday to boot.
Wow! What kind of environment are you living in? 150$ max? Maybe in the most undeveloped parts of the world... Yet you're acting like that's the norm everywhere. Torrents on your phone? Didn't even know that was possible.
I switched to the 12 pro solely because of the cameras about 4 and a half months ago. The lack of personalization is actually stopping me from spending money. I know I can never get my phone to look and feel the way I want it to so I just go "well, why bother at all?". I used to spend money on various apps, icons, wallpapers... pretty frequently. Now I just downloaded a couple of icons, edited them on my laptop, spent about an hour setting up the shortcuts and preventing their animations and that was it. I even used to buy so many sticker packs in messaging apps, now I only use the free ones and memojis. It's shocking how little I've spent since I switched to ios.
I'm not saying that everyone is like me. I'm just saying that your comment was not true. There are already enough people here who think that their iphone 6s blue bubble makes them better. Please don't lump us all together and drag us down with you.
I switched to the 12 pro solely because of the cameras about 4 and a half months ago. The lack of personalization is actually stopping me from spending money. I know I can never get my phone to look and feel the way I want it to so I just go "well, why bother at all?". I used to spend money on various apps, icons, wallpapers... pretty frequently. Now I just downloaded a couple of icons, edited them on my laptop, spent about an hour setting up the shortcuts and preventing their animations and that was it. I even used to buy so many sticker packs in messaging apps, now I only use the free ones and memojis. It's shocking how little I've spent since I switched to ios.
I'm not saying that everyone is like me. I'm just saying that your comment was not true. There are already enough people here who think that their iphone 6s blue bubble makes them better. Please don't lump us all together and drag us down with you.
Problem is scanning your pictures is just the start. Scanning Email, messages, phone calls, application data....all coming next. Frogs in boiling water.
I purchased a Nokia XR20 last month for $790 because it has mmWave 5G, IP68 water resistance, wireless charging and dual nano SIM tray. Other features are: Bluetooth 5.1, Wi-Fi 6, 48 mega pixel camera, FM radio, stereo speakers with spatial audio support. All my Nokias have finger print recognition which is good as facial recognition is poor unlike on my iPhone 12 Pro. I doubt too many smart phone users will switch due to the biometric unlocking method. A game changer is going to be the first smart phone to support low earth orbiting satellite communication / data and first mobile phone carrier in each country to embrace satellite services. I predict the next major technological breakthrough will be wireless charging without the need to lie on a wireless charger.
OK, so humour me. What scenario is it that concerns you that wouldn't be possible now, but would be if Apple started CSAM scanning?
What about those of us who switched from Android to iOS?
Also, totally not true about the money thing. In fact I used to have Jump On Demand with T-Mobile that let me upgrade my phone twice a year by paying the taxes and I never bought anything other than flagships.
I can torrent on my 12 Pro Max with iTransmission if I wanted to, no jailbreak needed, although I don’t use torrents so I don’t have it installed. I also have Kodi and a modified YouTube app on my phone. Contrary to popular belief it’s not that difficult to sideload on iOS with PC apps like Sideloadly and AltStore.
The lack of customization did indeed annoy me and it still does from time to time but with the addition of the App Library it’s far less of an issue than it used to be since my biggest gripe was having to have every app I use somewhere on the Home Screen. Widgets are also better overall on iOS although I wish they were interactive.
I get free apps from the App Store all the time so I don’t know what you’re talking about here…
I ordered a Pixel 3 XL so I can test out Graphene and see if I can put up with the loss of convenience. Should be here in a week or so (got it from Woot).
I am not convinced that I will be able to give up everything but for $230 with tax and a 30 day return policy, not a big risk to try. Plus I haven’t had stock Android since my Nexus 6 around 2014 and the Pixels really do seem like they have come a long way from the old days of the Nexus 6 and 7.
I am keeping my 12 Pro Max though. It will serve as a backup phone and any apps that don’t work on Graphene I’ll just run on it and then next year I’ll use it for a trade in for either a Pixel 7 Pro or go back to Apple with the iPhone 14.
You would be so much better off with a Pixel running GrapheneOS. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. You can have a good experience with nice hardware without the spying.
I bought an android phone as a development test device (The new Pixel 5a 5g.) It is quite slick and in some regards I prefer it, but in most ways it just kind of feels like an iPhone imitator. Like everything is there, but just a little bit off. Things like the app switcher on iOS follows your finger, but on android it kind of just does its own thing. Also widgets on android kind of suck compared to iOS now, no developers seem to implement them or care what they actually look like. The pixel has no weather widget out of the box...Yeah you can customize everything, if you are willing to waste a lot of time on it. iOS + iOS widgets look great out of the box.
But the hardware itself is quite nice for $450. To me the screen is comparable to the iPhone 12 Pro, which is more than twice the price. Camera is good, thanks to google processing.
That said, if I had no phone today and wasn't deeply entangled into the Apple web (iMessage, iCloud Photos, App Store subscriptions, Apple Watch, Apple fitness, music, my job as an iOS dev
Android 12 which comes out this month will fix the widget issue, it looks amazing.
Since I don't deal in kiddie porn, CSAM doesn't bother me.
They aren't. Apple approach, even though reported poorly, gives the iPhone-user protection prior to posting. And I suppose the other side of it is that users had a false sense of privacy to data stored in iCloud. The FBI case with the iPhone in San Bernardino showed that iCloud data was readily accessible with a warrant. The FBI wanted access to data on the device, which Apple would not grant.
I'm not worried about getting busted for CSAM either, but it does bother me in what it could morph to at some government's request once the software is there on our personal phones to do the reporting.
Take a look at the EFF article: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/...t-encryption-opens-backdoor-your-private-life
That's probably a decent overview. My concern is also with the technical implementation - in my experience iCloud Photo libraries are already fairly unstable once they get beyond very modest sizes. Additional on-device code is likely to result in yet more slowdowns, app crashes, battery drain, etc. It's also a great source of zero days as well as it bypasses on-device encryption and is tailor made for scanning content. Nation states will absolutely use this to scan for ALL types of content now that these tools exist (since Apple has the tools it will be forced to use them to operate in places like China, etc - previously they could deny requests as decryption mechanisms didn't exist) and since it's on-device vs cloud based there's absolutely no way for privacy conscious users to avoid the scans (which covers text, photos and videos - basically all content). The only option users have is to leave the platform entirely. This goes well beyond anything Android, even the Google loaded, versions have. Had they just rolled out CSAM on the iCloud servers this wouldn't be an issue whatsoever. I'm sure they are going to save a fortune by offloading all that processing to user devices however.
Also concerningly is that the changes completely defeat iMessage encryption, rendering it useless for people who need actual end to end encryption (journalists, businesses operating globally, etc). While there are options like Signal, these apps run in the iOS ecosystem and display runs through iOS functions, so it could potentially be leveraged to eventually compromise the security of even apps on the phone like these. Not a very large step to get there, now that the mechanisms exist.
Personally I don't like the idea that every single iOS 15 user has to have their device subjected to this if they want to use iCloud Photos (which many do)... especially when the bad guys can simply turn iCloud Photos off and have nothing to worry about.