LOL. Typical iPhone user response. If they don't have it, its not necessary. If that feature comes to the iPhone, they crap their pants with excitement. Prime example was the notification center Apple stole from Android. iPhone users brushed it aside as something unimportant and unnecessary, then it comes to the iPhone and everyone sings its praises. Gotta love the fanboys
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LOL. Typical iPhone user response. If they don't have it, its not necessary. If that feature comes to the iPhone, they crap their pants with excitement. Prime example was the notification center Apple stole from Android. iPhone users brushed it aside as something unimportant and unnecessary, then it comes to the iPhone and everyone sings its praises. Gotta love the fanboys
I know it's tough, but it's best not to take the bait. The debate will go in circles, derail the thread for the next 3 pages, and even when you finally show him that you're right, he'll just ignore it and copy->paste the same list in the next thread.
It'd be nice to have one thread where we can have an intelligent debate without mbell and company flaming it into 20 pages of the same old thing.
Why would you have a developer phone meant for rooting and ROM'ing when you think custom ROMs, launchers and most of the things that make the Nexus a great phone are useless?
How I realized that. He can buy the next Galaxy SX EVO 4G HD++ LTE edition and I'll be happy with my iPhone 4s.
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Why would you have a developer phone meant for rooting and ROM'ing when you think custom ROMs, launchers and most of the things that make the Nexus a great phone are useless?
It's meant for developing android apps, not tinkering in experimental rom builds from third parties. The phone still has an unlocked bootloader.
LOL, really? Looks like a bunch of made up excuses and some just silly ones. Carriers hate custom ROM's? No kidding? And why do we care about that? Whats your point?
Launchers make the the user ability better, what are you talking about?
Flash is phased out but HTML 5 is coming, which is a better version of flash.
This place would cream their jeans if they got Widgets.
I mean most of your reasons are lame. Ringtones are so simple to do with your phone...i made 5 the other day with my phone.
The Apple keyboard is crap.
Overview, you are clueless.
Pros of iOS
Unified inbox
Support for Google, Yahoo and Exchange out of the box(We dont have support for Yahoo out of the box? Hmm, i guess im not supposed to be using it right now then. Gmail ...well you have to be braindead to not know this is implemented.)
Same number for iMessage/SMS(Um, ...What?)
Push notifications(Um, we get push notifications)
Full functionality with earphones with remote(Fullfunction earphones....lol...., sorry, we get those too and the earphones are better than Apples crap earphones.)
Pros of iPhone
Top camera(There is a video that shows otherwise on the camera)
Highest DPI screen(Barely, but it is a bit higher 326 to 316)
Fast charging(Is this a serious statement?)
No removable parts(That is a downgrade imo)
World class support(ok, you got one)
Seems you dont know what your talking about and have never used an Android.
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LOL. This just shows your ignorance about Android. Please give your Nexus to someone who knows what they are doing. Thanks
Google does not have a mechanism to unlock bootloaders. Am I missing something? Feel free to link something.
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Also why are you frequenting a site called MacRumors? Shouldn't you be at http://androidforums.com/?
If any of the iPhone competitors are smart, they should start advertising or hinting at a smooth transaction from iPhone to their device.
Especially if Apple pulls the "longer device" (not wider) only, this round. I think then, allot of people may then look at switching.
I love Apple, but the only reason I wouldn't switch is because Apple has me locked into their system with all of my Apple devices. What a great technique (iCloud).
BTW.... Id laugh if Apple comes out with an iPhone 5 EXACTLY like the last two versions. THAT WOULD BE BALLZZ.
Especially if Apple pulls the "longer device" (not wider) only, this round. I think then, allot of people may then look at switching.
I love Apple, but the only reason I wouldn't switch is because Apple has me locked into their system with all of my Apple devices. What a great technique (iCloud).
BTW.... Id laugh if Apple comes out with an iPhone 5 EXACTLY like the last two versions. THAT WOULD BE BALLZZ.
I use email for work where we use attachments as a way to share content with teams. Most of my files are stored in Dropbox and I frequently reply to emails with edits. With an app called DropSync on Android, all of my files are copied to my SD card and automatically synced to the cloud.
So, I can receive a file in email, save it, edit it, and reply to the group with the new file and have it synced to my Dropbox immediately.
I haven't figured out how to do this with my iPhone.
I notice many business users needing this type of feature and for some reason Apple refuses to make it available on iOS.
So, I can receive a file in email, save it, edit it, and reply to the group with the new file and have it synced to my Dropbox immediately.
I haven't figured out how to do this with my iPhone.
I notice many business users needing this type of feature and for some reason Apple refuses to make it available on iOS.
In short, iOS still lacks a certain level of functionality. Here are a few examples off the top of my head:
-The notifications in iOS are still poor. Now Jellybean has added on to the notifications, and there simply is no comparison. iOS doesn't even give you a static icon that lets you know something is in the notification center. In other words, if a notification comes in and you don't deal with it right away, you could possibly forget about it, and there is nothing to remind you (unless you look at the app icon later and it shows a number on it).
-This is one I'm sure you've heard a million times, widgets. Believe it or not, they do add a level of functionality. If you'd like an example, I'd be more than happy to show you how my phone is set up (I won't put it in this post because this post will be long enough lol).
-App integration is lacking in iOS. For example, I can go to anything in my phone, click share, and have a plethora of options to share my content/data/files with (depending on what apps I have installed). In iOS that isn't possible. If I want to share in a particular app, I have to do it from that app. That severely limits my options when it comes to sharing information.
-iOS' cloud functionality still needs work. For example, I can't store videos in the cloud. If I record a video, iCloud can push it to my iCloud connected devices, but my video can't reside in the cloud like it can on Android.
-Keyboard. iOS' keyboard is in need of an update. It really just is not very good, and there are better options out there. Unfortunately, iOS will not allow you to change to a better keyboard.
-Browser. Safari sucks. There's no two ways about it. It can't reformat text to the screen, so you're stuck having to scroll side to side to read content on some pages. The download options (or lack thereof) in the browser is archaic at best. Bear in mind, Chrome is a much better browser, but you can't set it as your default browser without hacking your phone to do it.
-You can't do something as simple as creating a custom ringtone without needing to sync to your computer. While working in the field, I have met several people that don't have computers and use their iDevice as their computer. I guess those people just won't ever be able to have a custom ringtone, because it requires having to sync to a computer. That is crazy.
-Voice dictation on the iPhone needs improvement BIG TIME.
-DLNA functionality is absent. There is airplay, but that isn't compatible with the DLNA standard.
-NFC functionality is absent. Many people will say, "well there aren't a lot of businesses that have NFC enabled readers". This is true for some areas, but there are other areas that have plenty of places that do have them. I live in Atlanta, and I have used NFC to pay for things in drugs stores, fast food places, doctor's offices, and several other places. Also, it's nice to be able to automate tasks via NFC. For example, you can put an NFC tag in your vehicle mount that will put your phone in "car mode" when you place it in there.
-Handicapped bluetooth. Not being able to send a person something to their phone via bluetooth is a bit ridiculous in 2012. I've been doing that since the Windows Mobile days, and yet iOS still features handicapped bluetooth. There have been several times I wanted to give my uncle a file, and had to email it to him instead of just sending it straight to his phone via bluetooth. Also this means, I can't connect game controllers such as the PS3 controller if I want to play a game using it.
There are several other things but I'm not trying to write a book, so I'll stop listing them now lol. On another note, there are things added in ICS and in Jellybean that just push the OS further ahead. For example, in ICS they added the data manager, so you can control how much data your phone uses. It can warn you when you've consumed a certain amount of data. It can also limit the amount of data you use as a whole, thus keeping you from going over your limits. Things in Jellybean like how Google Now will automatically calculate the time of travel back home (including traffic), without you telling the phone to do anything. You don't have to schedule it, you don't have to make it a destination, it just knows to calculate it, and alert you of the time it will take and traffic along the way (that came in handy on the 4th of July, it saved me from a traffic jam). Those are a couple of things that pushed the OS further ahead, there are more, but this post has gotten long enough lol.
At this point, I'm sure you get the idea. Do I think that means the iPhone is awful? No. Do I think they have a lot of room for improvement? Yes. I think the iPhone is a decent phone for what it is, I just personally find it lacking in several areas. It has its strengths, but for me, I find it's weaknesses overshadow them, especially when compared to the Android platform. I hope I was able to answer your question a bit.
It really depends on the person. For me i use my phone for Calling, texting, mail, some music, and web browsing. For me iphone does this all very well, especially imessage. I went through 3 android devices and messed around with widgets and what not, but found that i prefer to go into an app.
Both android and IOS can coexist peacefully!
That's a false assumption. Just because they don't do something doesn't mean they are taking their customers for granted. And just because they can do something doesn't mean they should have.
I think the reason behind not integrating Facebook sooner had to do with the state of Facebook itself. They were taking a wait-and-see approach to it because no one was sure about the future of Facebook(and we still aren't).
Also, integrating Twitter is a fairly simple process compared to Facebook and all its nick-nacks.
This! iOS is so far behind on key features its not even funny.
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Then why do you need to pay the premium price for iPhone and the ridiculous rates carriers charge? A $30 phone can do any of the things you listed...
That isn't a reasonable response. They were taking a "wait and see" approach to Facebook because they didn't know where it was going, yet they added Twitter? Come on now, that doesn't make any sense. You do realize Facebook is MUCH more popular than Twitter? They could have very easily added Facebook integration. They purposely withheld it to add later.
If I'm not mistaken, Facebook integration was withheld in iOS 5 because there was not a good relation between apple and Facebook due to the Ping debacle.
Looks like they are doing this with NFC too. Sucks because Apple would have made NFC more mainstream. I long for the day I can get rid of all my credit cards, gas card, and things like hotel key cards.
Honest question, what advantage does NFC payments give you vs a credit card. I can't see myself leaving the house without my credit card, what happens if there's an emergency and I need to pay for something via phone...meaning reading my credit card number over the phone? What if my battery dies and I'm stranded without access to my money? What if my phone breaks while I'm out? What if I lose my phone or it's stolen, can someone easily copy my NFC data or break into my "wallet"...etc.
I can see so many negatives, but no benefits to paying for my Starbucks coffee with my phone.
Can someone enlighten me?
I view my phone as a digital wallet already. All my rewards program cards are in one app. They all have upc symbols that can be scanned at the register. But, unless a crook knows your pass code to unlock your phone and the wallet, he can't use the feature.
As for the phone running out of power or stolen or lost, same can be said for your wallet and credit cards (save for the running out of power part.) but these days you can get a charger for your phone prettymuch anywhere, you can charge in your car, Android phones can put a fresh battery in, etc...
Imagine how easy it would be to show up at the airport or hotel front desk and your airline ticket is your phone and your key card for your hotel room is your phone. Quick pay at gas stations. No need to type in your zip code and wait for authorization.
You will always have positives and negatives, but I will be using this tech when it is available to me. I wouldn't mind making my real wallet as thin as possible.
I use Google Wallet now on my Galaxy Nexus, and I will say, it is more convenient. It isn't a large different in convenience, but it is nice to not reach for my wallet. It's a lot easier for me to pull my phone from the holster than the wallet from my pocket, especially when I'm in the car (at a drive-thru).
Also, sometimes they will have coupons inside the NFC payment app that can save you money. I doubt I'd be leaving my wallet at home, so I'm not concerned about my battery dying and not having access to my money. I don't think NFC is anywhere near the point of general adoption where you'd even be considering such a thing anyway.
If your phone breaks while you're out, that's just bad luck, but isn't very likely unless you drop it (which could happen). But that's no different than if you were to lose your wallet, or the magnetic strip on your card stopped working. Again, you wouldn't leave your wallet at home anyway, so this shouldn't be an issue.
As for the security aspect. It's a lot easier for me to get your credit card number off the card in your wallet than it is for me to hack your phone and get it. If you leave your card somewhere, and someone picks it up, they have everything they need to make a purchase. If you lose your phone, a person has to know how to hack it to gain access to your money. NFC is way more secure. Credit cards aren't secure at all.
All in all, it's just a convenience thing. You probably won't understand until you make your first NFC purchase. Then you will see what I mean. From the outside looking in, it probably doesn't sound any more convenient, but it really is.
I doubt it.
Widgets have been a function of android since forever. iOS has never had widgets.
It hasn't stopped the iphone from being the single most successful smartphone of all time.
Among android people, there is some disproportionate significance put on widgets. But as a person who had them, and still went iOS, it's far from a deal maker or deal breaker.
I don't spend a lot of time looking at home screens is why, and I am not a fan of crashed widgets and forced restarts...