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Yeah, I definitely liked the big cat names better than their current "beautiful places in California" scheme. But I wonder what they come up with after that..
You're correct. Statistics can be cherry picked, and might or might not be related to full reality.
For example, according to Apple, the particular metric shown in this thread is simply the count of different iOS versions that accessed the App Store on February 20, 2017.
I and my iPad minis disagree with your resultant hilarity.
Apparently you're unaware that Apple states in its SEC filings that it sets aside an amount of each item's sale for future software updates. On a $700 iPhone, it's about $35, IIRC. So they HAVE to deliver updates because they GOT your money for them already.
True, I've always said that one should not look for a conspiracy, if stupidity or laziness can explain what happened.
So here's my question: the updates to 8 and then 9 made my iPad minis worse and worse. Was that a conspiracy to get me to upgrade devices? Or was it simply stupidity or laziness on the part of Apple testing?
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Which reminds me: all this blathering about OS versions has so far ignored the fact that having a certain iOS version does NOT mean all devices have the same new features. Not even close.
For instance, I updated to iOS 9 for two reasons: hoping it would fix how badly 8 had messed things up, and wanting to use the new ad-blocker feature that was touted. Alas, it wasn't until after updating that I found out that the latter feature wasn't included for my older devices. This is pretty common with Apple's updates, too.
Like many others, if I could've downgraded easily, I would've.
Well, you can also look at it this way: if it was done on purpose, and you as the consumer aren't happy about your device and what has happened to it, are you then more inclined to buy another device from the company that does something like this, to once again end up with another device that you feel is going to stop working well on purpose at some point? Consumers that give even a bit of thought to their purchases, especially the more expensive ones, would not be happy about something like that and wouldn't want to purchase more from a company that might do that with their devices. Seems like that would essentially be against company interests.
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Nothing to do with jailbreaking.
Those of us whose iOS devices slowed down or got less stable, and with no new features we really needed, would love to be able to go back to a faster / more stable version.
Realistically though, it's more of a lesson that many have learned: which is to wait a while to see what others say about an update, before applying it yourself
I wasn't really trying to say that either, more just bringing up another side to the whole statistics aspect of things.
Avoiding reported issues or bad update stories. I had my wife's phone on 9 forever. reason: I did the 10 update and got the power issue. My phone with no other changes made I could literally take off charger, leave sit on desk and in less than 4 hours get 20% power warnings. Punchline: I was not using the phone in anyway. My wife is a more avid phone user....based on my testing (yes limited sample size since just my phone) I did not want to deal with the fallout of dicking up her phone power wise if the bug happened to hers too. She got 10 after a few updates and on accident...she pressed yes to update on accident. No issues with her, got lucky.
there may not be features in the iOS worth the effort. It works, don't fix what isn't broken mindset. Does what it needs to, leave it at that. This may be based on this is how some work their computer systems as well. And I am not talking the oddball windows XP holdouts only. Ubuntu releases a new production server release basically every other year, with a test release in between that. The production releases get 5 years of support. I use that for about 4 years. For what I stand up Ubuntu servers for...I don't need to migrate/in place upgrade every 2 years.
You missed the point.In my post, I was pointing out that it was only natural that older hardware would run newer operating systems at a slower clip. It's not an "Apple Thing", it's an all-brands-of-technology thing.
I think this is something a lot of new people to technology don't understand. Or also young.
This day of age, your average, everyday program / App. The word processors, the spreadsheets. the web browsers. The day to day programs, will all run, on just about any piece of hardware. If your OS of choice can run, that program can run. (How well isn't the question here, lets not get sidetracked).
They don't understand. more than a decade or so ago, if you were into computers. That was not normal. Every application had very specific hardware requirements and you had to absolutely pay attention to it. something that could run on a Pentium 3, might not run on a pentium 2, or even an Athlon variant. a 486dx2 66mhz, could run Windows, but a 486sx 33mhz couldn't. you needed 4mb of RAM to run doom demo. And literally could not even start with 2. And you better know that the program will only run if you have extended memory setup....
So in this day, when that sort of thing happens. where we're told that "hey, that new crap we just invented that we really want to sell you, you're going to have to probably upgrade, because it needs more power just to do". People lose it.
This sort of thing sucks. pisses people off, and yes, if it's actually planned obsolescence, they should be shamed. But, not everything is planned obsolescence. it's a boogey man. sometimes this just needs to happen. You can really see in hindsight. Because everyone knows your iPhone 1 wouldn't be able to run and handle anything in iOS 10.
I disagree that a newer OS should run slower. Windows hasn't really slowed down since XP. Newer software absolutely will run slower as it demands newer hardware, but the OS should do its work as efficiently as possible and keep out of the way of the real software.
Ugh, then i lose everything. Why would this fix things being slow? For example, just now i tried to search for a contact and the iPhone search gave me a blank screen doing nothing.
Then those devices aren't included in their "active" count.
Apple's chart states that the "active" info comes from counting devices which accessed the Apple App Store on a single particular day (February 20, 2017 in this case).
No Samsung phone has yet been updated to Nougat meaning they are all on the version the device shipped with. There is no question of planned obsolescence. Don't forget about downgrade support
And nothing like deflections to keep a "good discussion" going. My car doesn't get to 60 in 1 second. Planned obsolescence.
You get a particular Toyota model.Car goes from 0-60 in 8 seconds. You send it in for yearly maintenance. Car takes 14 seconds to go from 0-60. This is planned obsolescence
If you love marketing charts you will love the Google Play Services one
It's an undeniable fact that it runs slower than it did on iOS 7. No amount of deflections will change that
But not all iPhones receive 100% features of the new updates. Case in point being adblockers and raise to wake . This is similar
That's the opinion of the writer . Being the POTUS, Trump knows about security issues better than anyone and he continues to use the S3. This reinforces my point that it's fully up to date. No doubt that click bait article's author forgot about Google Play Services
Apple insistently downloads updates automatically in the background. It downloaded the update 3 times till I finally relented
Every time I unlock the phone I am greeted with a message .
When I hand over the phone to someone who is not an luddite he presses install when the prompt pops up unaware of the consequences
The generalisation is not unfounded as plenty on this forum are in the same shoes as me. Who knows the masses are just putting up with it? Because it's the same phone and hardware
Using the existing logic promulgated around here, it sure does mean "p/o". Samsung wants you to buy another phone. See how silly taking this to the nth degree sounds?
Still a deflection.
Any old anecdotal experience will be fine to support a broad generalization.
No it's not as IOS 9 has been proven faster then IOS 8 and IOS 10 on my 6s flies.
Sure, not all features on older hardware are supported by newer hardware, but that is neither here nor there.
It's the link posted. Can you prove this?
This is still not the point. I don't have to ever click on an update, which was the original point being made. Now it's time to move the goalposts.
And plenty aren't. A generalization isn't one unless it's 100% true. And since you don't know the masses, you can't make a statement on their behalf.
No, planned obsolescence is simply one possible reason for it, it's not a given that that's what it is nor even simply likely that's what it is simply because that's one possibility. Rather simple basic logic involved, as usual.
If you take your 2 year old car to the dealer for maintenance and afterwards it accelerates like a 50 year old moped and the manufacturer says that's normal, buy a new car if it's a problem, you think that's okay? Because that's exactly what Apple does to their iPhones.
There was a firmware patch to the Honda Civic Hybrid that dealers were installing on every car they could get their hands on, even just for an oil change without telling the vehicle owners. It killed the fuel efficiency to compensate for design flaws in the battery system. Considering the only reason to shell out for a hybrid was the fuel efficiency and this change made it about the same as a pure gas model, it was a major problem and of course led to class action lawsuits. That was not okay, and what Apple does is not okay either.
My major complaint about Apple is that they don't let you downgrade again, so I never bothered to upgrade my phones for fear the new version would kill it and I'd be stuck with a piece of garbage until I buy a new phone. For that reason, I always kept my iPhones on the version they shipped with, and that is a huge part of why I haven't owned an iPhone for years. Honestly, I'd probably buy the next model if they allowed the OS to be downgraded (and it had a headphone jack).
It's not OK, but that's different/separate as to why it happens and what's behind it.
I strongly doubt that the presidency automatically makes one an expert on cyber security, much less the best of all experts. So I do not share your optimism regarding Trump's knowledge on the matter. That being said, there probably is a staff of actual experts who take care of such issues for him, so I am not too worried about some malware taking over his phone and declaring war on China over Twitter or whatever.
And what other reason can there be? Note this only happens once a newer model is released. Meaning updates within the iOS 10 family will not slow down the iPhone 7 but once iPhone 8 is out , iOS 11 will
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The fact that Android is even being used by the president says it all about Android security.
Things are optimized for the newest hardware to make the most/best use of it? Hardware updates are still noticeable steps forward with each iteration? Certainly various fairly plausible and more realistic and down to earth possibilities than just a conspiracy.
You mean the unmatched phone from 2012, that is not receiving updates. Yeah, right.
You mean to tell me that the most valuable company on the planet with billions of dollars in the bank can't optimise iOS for a handful of devices?