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I know it's only a concept but what worries me is how the older generations will cope with a major change. For younger people the interface will still remain intuitive but that intuition will be based on previous experiences of other IOS versions. Something like this would blow my 76 year old mothers mind, it's great to have powerful new features but in some ways not having those features makes it more manageable for an older person to cope with especially if they have become used to a particular work flow that works for them. Perhaps accessibility options that can restrict the functionality of the next IOS may help keep older people engaged and in touch after all updating from a security point of view is of the upmost importance to keep them safe online.

i totally agree. In my opinion, Apple has completely neglected the segment of older users, with the exception of being able to make text bigger. There are so many needless doodads in both iOS and Mac OS that make them very arcane to use, let alome explain.

Apple should focus on building a seriously secure OS with a pliable interface that can be configured to suit a users' needs. By secure, I mean things like not constantly popping up logins for the App Store regardless of what context you are in, developing new methods to block phishing attempts, etc.
 
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I don't get the vitriol over this. Its not as it was passing it off as official Apple plans.

There are many talented designers whose online mockups have helped them find work. Notably Matias Duarte, now their VP of design at Google.
Seems more like his career path is the reason.

"Career[edit]
Duarte started his career at Psycroft where he cowrote xBill with Brian Wellington. He left Psycroft in 1996 at which time he moved to Hyper Image Productions where he was the lead designer on the Phase Zero hovercraft simulator. In 1997 he left Hyper Image Productions and moved to MagicArts where he filled the role of Vice President of Design until 1999. In March 2000 Duarte took a role at Danger as the Director of Design where his team won the 2002 Wired 'Industrial Designer' Rave Award[6] for their work in designing the Hiptop/SideKick. In August 2005 he took up a role at Helio, as Vice President Experience Design and left shortly before the company was acquired by Virgin Mobile. In September 2007 Duarte was hired as the Vice President at Palm, Inc. to lead development of Palm’s webOS Human Interface and User Experience and introduced the design of webOS at the 2009 Consumer Electronics Show. In May 2010 Duarte was hired by Google as Director for the Android User Experience working on the interface and design for Android 3.0 (AKA Honeycomb).[2]"
 
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When the user experience is based on apps it makes very little sense to have rows and rows of apps as the Home screen just like it's a gimmick to want pressure sensitivity on a TOUCH screen. Apple needs to change their name to Gimmickpple.
 



Apple is planning to unveil its next-generation operating system for iOS devices, iOS 11, in less than a month. Despite the imminent debut date of the new OS, we've heard very little about what we should expect to see in the update.

Based on the fact that iOS 10 offered very few features for the iPad, Federico Vittici of MacStories, who uses an iPad for much of his daily work, has imagined an iOS 11 update wishlist that overhauls the iPad interface, introducing new iPad-only features that many pro users would undoubtedly love to see.

Vittici collaborated with designer Sam Beckett to bring his iOS 11 wishlist to life, providing concrete examples of ways Apple could redesign the iPad experience.


System-wide drag and drop functionality that would let users drag content between apps or from one iPad split screen window to another is at the top of Vittici's list. Images, text, links, documents, and more could be dragged using intuitive long press gestures. In the example image below, text from an email is dragged into a list in Reminders.

ios11conceptdraganddrop-800x533.jpg

An imagined "Shelf" feature goes hand-in-hand with drag and drop, giving users a place to store anything on the iPad they want to reference at a later time. It's similar to the desktop on a Mac, storing items for easy access.

ios11conceptshelf-800x533.jpg

Viticci's other iOS 11 wishlist items include a new Split View app picker with a search feature and a better layout, a Mac-style Finder app that works with iCloud Drive for a more consistent document-finding interface, a denser home screen, multiple audio streams, and a refreshed design with bolder typography and more of a focus on visual feedback.

For additional images and a more detailed explanation of the items on Vittici's iOS 11 wishlist, make sure to check out the full article over at MacStories.

Article Link: iOS 11 Concept Imagines Overhauled iPad Interface With Drag-and-Drop Functionality
Good idea!
 
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I love my ipads. Love my pro. But I don't love the fact that I cannot make folders anywhere easily and store my content there for business purposes. Even in photos it's so lame. I want to organize simply by touch. I want videos in easy to find and use folders. I do presentations. And I'm consistently showing my entire photo library to 200 people to locate a newly transferred video. Is it me? If any of u guys have advice please share :))
 
What a misguided waste of time. Every time someone tries to re-imagine the iPad they wind up wanting to make it more like their Mac. If they want a Mac, they should get a Mac.

If Apple had shipped the iPad as something that was just a tablet Mac, it would have suffered the same fate as all the products from Microsoft and others that just tried to stuff an existing OS into a new form. At best they would have been ridiculed for creating an expensive Netbook.

But Apple figured out a new way to interact with devices, and instead of being a has been copycat, all the other companies now copy Apple.
 
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I'm already embraced the concept that imagines I never buy another ipad.. I mean how many times will I keep shoveling out hundreds for ipads that sit around and gather dust. Pretty weird I know. But I'll stick with iphone & mac for now. It's up to Apple to make ipads more essential and for me mostly has to do with integration with macs.
 
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Include Finder and MultiUser on it before anything else.
Finder already exists. It's the iCloud Drive app. It just isn't utilized enough by apps.

Multi-user exists too. Just locked to educational iPads. Makes you think Apple very intentionally doesn't want consumers to have it when they built then specifically denied access to it.
 
Guys keep dreaming, it's been 6-7 years and Apple still can't optimize icon grid spacing to take advantage of the huge iPad screen. Apple is asleep.

Reportedly it was the Apple lawyers who pushed for the iPad homescreen to look like a big iPhone, as this strengthened their trade dress claims against Samsung.

It's a real pity considering the cool things that can be done with wodgets on a display that big.

As for the concepts in this recent fan video, they look like a rehash of the 2008 Microsoft Courier tablet design concept, plus the actual multi-window drag and drop abilities of a 2014 Samsung Note tablet.
 
Good thing that was just a concept video since it looks extremely kludgy.

iOS is such a mess and so limited that Apple either need to replace it with touch and pen enabled MacOS or replace with Android which fixes all the limitations and usability issues.
 
Too complicated with little benefit for the bulk of the users. I am pretty electronically savvy and half the time in the video I could figure out what the point of the shown features. Admittedly, this could be more due to how the video is structured and presented rather than as a function of the new features themselves. I did like the copy and paste feature
 
Tim Cook making some time to talk to disabled people about the importance of accessibility doesn't have anything to do with app grid spacing on the iPad.
So I wouldn't dare to disturb him or any of 100.000 employees with a variety of assignments (round pizza boxes, solar screen coatings, packaging design, self-healing metal thickness gauges) that prevent them from spending 22 secs to edit a grid space string.
 
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What a misguided waste of time. Every time someone tries to re-imagine the iPad they wind up wanting to make it more like their Mac. If they want a Mac, they should get a Mac.

If Apple had shipped the iPad as something that was just a tablet Mac, it would have suffered the same fate as all the products from Microsoft and others that just tried to stuff an existing OS into a new form. At best they would have been ridiculed for creating an expensive Netbook.

But Apple figured out a new way to interact with devices, and instead of being a has been copycat, all the other companies now copy Apple.
To be fair Federico Vicitti uses his iPad as his primary computer. There may be a lot of people that do but they're not using it the way he is. I doubt they're creating workflows and automation scripts. I think there are definitely improvements that can be made but over complicating it or turning it into Mac light isn't the answer.
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Finder already exists. It's the iCloud Drive app. It just isn't utilized enough by apps.

Multi-user exists too. Just locked to educational iPads. Makes you think Apple very intentionally doesn't want consumers to have it when they built then specifically denied access to it.
Finder exists? How does one download media onto an iPad (without using desktop iTunes)? How does one find said media on an iPad (say if you wanted to share it). It doesn't exist. TV app and other media player apps like Infuse don't offer sharing options. Not everyone uses iCloud Drive.
 
Oh how my poor Air 2 would struggle with this. The 9.7 Pro wouldn't fare so well either. Anyone who says 2gb is sufficient is full of it.
Yup it's surprising that within 2.5 years of iPad Air 2 release, we are nearing the limits of 2 GB RAM. But it was the best possible run for a tablet which still does not show signs of getting bogged down.
In-fact I traded my 12.9" iPad with my mom's 2.5 yr old Air 2. I am sure it will be fine on iOS 11 even if it has the above mentioned concept
 
Drap and Drop looks deceptively great. In real life, it is not working well AT ALL.

I know I use Windows 10 on Surface pro. The UI is still "stupid" in tablet mode.

The problem for drap and drop are in 3 parts
1. U cannot specify selection neatly easily
2. Draging is quite annoying gestures
3. Selection of where to drop is difficult.


Don't believe me. Try it on your Windows without mouse.
 
I'm generally a big fan of what Federico is able to do with the iPad.

That said, I have to wonder if it's worth spending 3 months on this. Plus hiring a designer and a movie guy to make it, only to have it invalidated in 2.5 weeks by whatever Apple announced.

I had a similar thought to yours, but I couldn't tell if I was just a little cranky today.

I like his iOS wish list stuff, but this felt like an expense of energy that didn't need to happen.

Perhaps it could have been titled " things that iOS will probably never do, and one of the reasons that I'm probably going to give up waiting".

That's what I can see here, but then I'm heavily jaded by apple's "shut up, we know what you want better than you do" attitude right now.
 
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Yeah but instead we'll only get 2 million more Emoji's.
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Drap and Drop looks deceptively great. In real life, it is not working well AT ALL.

I know I use Windows 10 on Surface pro. The UI is still "stupid" in tablet mode.

The problem for drap and drop are in 3 parts
1. U cannot specify selection neatly easily
2. Draging is quite annoying gestures
3. Selection of where to drop is difficult.


Don't believe me. Try it on your Windows without mouse.

Where specifically are you having issues? I use drag and drop on my tablet all the time and find it works well, I love having the option.
 
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Finder already exists. It's the iCloud Drive app. It just isn't utilized enough by apps.

Sorry but I don't like to have all my files online, I trust Apple but it's just using unnecessary bandwidth.
And I meant it like MacOs Finder usability.

Multi-user exists too. Just locked to educational iPads. Makes you think Apple very intentionally doesn't want consumers to have it when they built then specifically denied access to it.

Reason: $$$$
 
Late or not the ideas shared by this team are wonderful.
Apple, please hire them or at least listen to them.

Andy




Apple is planning to unveil its next-generation operating system for iOS devices, iOS 11, in less than a month. Despite the imminent debut date of the new OS, we've heard very little about what we should expect to see in the update.

Based on the fact that iOS 10 offered very few features for the iPad, Federico Vittici of MacStories, who uses an iPad for much of his daily work, has imagined an iOS 11 update wishlist that overhauls the iPad interface, introducing new iPad-only features that many pro users would undoubtedly love to see.

Vittici collaborated with designer Sam Beckett to bring his iOS 11 wishlist to life, providing concrete examples of ways Apple could redesign the iPad experience.


System-wide drag and drop functionality that would let users drag content between apps or from one iPad split screen window to another is at the top of Vittici's list. Images, text, links, documents, and more could be dragged using intuitive long press gestures. In the example image below, text from an email is dragged into a list in Reminders.

ios11conceptdraganddrop-800x533.jpg

An imagined "Shelf" feature goes hand-in-hand with drag and drop, giving users a place to store anything on the iPad they want to reference at a later time. It's similar to the desktop on a Mac, storing items for easy access.

ios11conceptshelf-800x533.jpg

Viticci's other iOS 11 wishlist items include a new Split View app picker with a search feature and a better layout, a Mac-style Finder app that works with iCloud Drive for a more consistent document-finding interface, a denser home screen, multiple audio streams, and a refreshed design with bolder typography and more of a focus on visual feedback.

For additional images and a more detailed explanation of the items on Vittici's iOS 11 wishlist, make sure to check out the full article over at MacStories.

Article Link: iOS 11 Concept Imagines Overhauled iPad Interface With Drag-and-Drop Functionality
 
As for the concepts in this recent fan video, they look like a rehash of the 2008 Microsoft Courier tablet design concept, plus the actual multi-window drag and drop abilities of a 2014 Samsung Note tablet.

I actually would have liked to see that product come to market. I think it could have done fairly well.
 
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