iOS 12 Now Installed on 78% of All Devices From the Last Four Years

[NetMage]

Why? (as far as I know)

1. Android OS separates core services from the kernel, with services and kernel bound dynamically at runtime. Services and Kernel are upgraded separately. (The Android kernel is just a Linux kernel.)
2. IOS is monolithic, and its core services are a part of the kernel. Ergo, upgrading say, Mail or iMessage, requires IOS to be upgraded in toto.

This is why Android can, presumably, outlive iOS without major kernel revisions.
As far as I know.

You are incorrect. Android and iOS are quite similar in design, being essentially Unix based. In fact, iOS like macOS has features of a microkernel as well as a monolithic kernel, one of which have anything to do with included apps.

Apple has chosen to distribute most of their included Apps as part of a (potentially) complete iOS upgrade, but they can easily choose not to, such as with ShortCuts. Also, with incremental upgrade packages, they could upgrade only a single App with an iOS version number change.

 

[Spoon!]

Yet in the same breath you say....."Yeah ... I had some of those 32 bit apps ... but the apps were immensely buggy and had not been updated in years because they've been abandoned. I don't see a point in hanging on to those apps by sacrificing security.".
You make no sense.

I couldn’t use the app anymore because it was immensely buggy and had not been updated in years. I had to use the dying desktop app on macOS until I found an alternative.

 

[MikeSmoke]

iOS 12 could easily be the next classic stable high performance version in the mold of Snow Leopard for Mac. All my devices going back to iPad mini 2 and iPhone 6s are running better than ever. I suspect the migration to iOS 13 when it hits will be much slower than iOS 12.

 

[manu chao]

How do people that have left the platform stack up in these statistics ?

This measures active devices (ie, devices that connect to the App Store at least occasionally, eg, to check for app updates), not people.
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Not sure why one would use iOS 11 and not upgrade to 12?

Two general reasons:

1. Stubbornness (to put it charitable)
2. People who bought it with iOS 11 and just never upgrade anything

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Well with Apple's wonderful track record with planned obsolescence, what do you expect people like me to think?

You just think whatever you want to think, whatever makes you happy.

 

[H2SO4]

I couldn’t use the app anymore because it was immensely buggy and had not been updated in years. I had to use the dying desktop app on macOS until I found an alternative.

Point is, YOU had a reason to pursue the course you did because it suited YOUR circumstance.
Almost nobody else has your exact set of variables. Is it too much of a stretch to realise that their circumstance may necessitate the use of an older OS or app?
Or do you want to stick with, “nobody else has any reason not to be like me”?

 

[Bacillus]

This measures active devices (ie, devices that connect to the App Store at least occasionally, eg, to check for app updates), not people.

Thanks for proving my point.
If 50% of the users would throw aeay their device (or switch platform) and the other 50% upgrade to iOS12, then these stats will measure 100% being up-to-date.
Cookette feelgood stats that nobody believes anymore

 

[m00min]

I haven't updated my iPhone SE to iOS12, not sure I will either given the reason I'm using an SE and not my iPhone 7 is that ios12 killed its battery life. I gave it a week to settle down but 3 hours of SOT is a joke. The battery settings said all was good so I put it down to Apple's general uselessness these days. Same thing happened to my iPhone 6 previously.

 

[Spoon!]

Point is, YOU had a reason to pursue the course you did because it suited YOUR circumstance.
Almost nobody else has your exact set of variables. Is it too much of a stretch to realise that their circumstance may necessitate the use of an older OS or app?
Or do you want to stick with, “nobody else has any reason not to be like me”?

No idea what you’re going on about. I realize people have a reason to stick to their current OS. It’s just frustrating to be stuck on an OS ... is all I’m saying.

 

[FeliApple]

Apple's usual nagging results. Also, lack of the ability to downgrade.

 

[Jimmy James]

You can choose not to install it a pop-up comes up and then go and delete the downloaded update.

I normally don’t install right away until the update has been well vetted in public. So it’s just a matter of it using storage space.

If you delete the update it will just dl again. One time it actually didn’t give me the storage space back and dl’d again effectively using the storage space twice.

 

[C DM]

Thanks for proving my point.
If 50% of the users throw their device away (or switch platform) and the other 50% upgrade to iOS12, then these stats will measure 100% being up-to-date

And to iOS developers that's basically what would matter--why would they need to worry about those who aren't using an iOS device as far as gauging what iOS versions they should be prioritizing and in what way?

 

[Bacillus]

And to iOS developers that's basically what would matter--why would they need to worry about those who aren't using an iOS device as far as gauging what iOS versions they should be prioritizing and in what way?

For those, that counts.
But for the brand name this smartass metric doesn’t work anymore - neither the trickery of concealing unit sales and similar ostrich behavior

 

[C DM]

For those, that counts.
But for the brand name this smartass metric doesn’t work anymore - neither the trickery of concealing unit sales and similar ostrich behavior

And that's really what those metrics are for. Now, some might make it out to be about something else or extend it to something else, but that doesn't change that that's not really what they are about, (especially given where such metrics appear and how they are gathered, not even just for iOS, but Android as well).

 

[manu chao]

Thanks for proving my point.
If 50% of the users would throw aeay their device (or switch platform) and the other 50% upgrade to iOS12, then these stats will measure 100% being up-to-date.
Cookette feelgood stats that nobody believes anymore

Well, you are confusing two different things. YOU think what matters is how many of all iPhones sold are still in use (vs the same for Android), while the actual point being made here is what OS version all iPhones still being used are running (vs the same for Android). For the latter it is completely irrelevant how many iPhones (or Android phones) have been thrown away.
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I haven't updated my iPhone SE to iOS12, not sure I will either given the reason I'm using an SE and not my iPhone 7 is that ios12 killed its battery life. I gave it a week to settle down but 3 hours of SOT is a joke. The battery settings said all was good so I put it down to Apple's general uselessness these days. Same thing happened to my iPhone 6 previously.

And do you honestly believe that this is what most iPhone 6 and iPhone SE owners experience?

 

[otternonsense]

Not sure why one would use iOS 11 and not upgrade to 12?

Speaking as one who does: iOS 11 makes more sense on older iPads UX-wise.

 

[TVreporter]

I held off updating to iOS 12... finally broke down yesterday. Now the battery on my iPhone 8 is draining rapidly without me doing anything.

 

[C DM]

I held off updating to iOS 12... finally broke down yesterday. Now the battery on my iPhone 8 is draining rapidly without me doing anything.

Sometimes that kind of thing happens right after an update. Aside from checking your settings to make sure things are still set as expected it's usually good to give it all a few days and charging cycles to actually see how things are working in a more typical fashion.

 

[Bacillus]

I held off updating to iOS 12... finally broke down yesterday. Now the battery on my iPhone 8 is draining rapidly without me doing anything.

Probably due to indexing
(but hey, why would Apple keep us informed if there is a slight chance that would scare off the herds that are so more important to Cook)

 

[31 Flavas]

Oh wow, I didnt even pick up on that. Probably means a lot of devices will be dropped for iOS 13 then. Makes sense, they will be left on the "stable" version

Which totally doesn't follow the supposed draconian ‘planned obsolescence’ conspiracy theory. Which depends on iDevices being locked to a slow, buggy, unstable, battery draining, essentially unusable iOS version like iOS 11. Just like how the original iPad was killed with iOS 5, iPad 2 with iOS 9, the iPhone 4 with iOS 7 and 4S with iOS 9, as well.

“Our newest iPhone is super zippy quick - we encourage you to consider upgrading!”

 

[31 Flavas]

I use iOS 9 on my iPad Air 2. Why? Because I am not willing to give up slide to unlock. I also rather keep my ipad on an earlier version to pre-long it. Updating your device just slows it down.

Uh... the air 2 is slow on ... 12? You kidding me?

 

[I7guy]

Probably due to indexing
(but hey, why would Apple keep us informed if there is a slight chance that would scare off the herds that are so more important to Cook)

Brilliant straw man.

 

[31 Flavas]

Thanks for proving my point.
If 50% of the users would throw aeay their device (or switch platform) and the other 50% upgrade to iOS12, then these stats will measure 100% being up-to-date.
Cookette feelgood stats that nobody believes anymore

uh... well first if 50% *have* thrown away their devices (or will otherwise never connect them to the app store) then they are irrelavent to developers. In your example, then 100% of the relavent market is on the latest code so there would be no reason or need to code for older devices.

Second, how are you going to measure useage iOS usage otherwise? I mean even if literally 99% of all actual total iOS devces were running iOS 6 - if they’re not connecting to the app store to search or download - they’re not relavent.
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For those, that counts.
But for the brand name this smartass metric doesn’t work anymore - neither the trickery of concealing unit sales and similar ostrich behavior

So thanks for proving the numbers accurate then? These are numbers on the developer website for developers to use to determine which versions of iOS are most in use by potential customers.

As a news post (interest item or whatever) the numbers were pull off of there and reported to us, the general public.

Your’re the one that has decided they are or need to represent something else.

 

[MattMJB0188]

Uh... the air 2 is slow on ... 12? You kidding me?

No

 

[31 Flavas]

No

I own an Air 2 - two even. One wifi only the other cellular. Running iOS 12.

 

[Bacillus]

uh... well first if 50% *have* thrown away their devices (or will otherwise never connect them to the app store) then they are irrelavent to developers. In your example, then 100% of the relavent market is on the latest code so there would be no reason or need to code for older devices.

Second, how are you going to measure useage iOS usage otherwise? I mean even if literally 99% of all actual total iOS devces were running iOS 6 - if they’re not connecting to the app store to search or download - they’re not relavent.
[doublepost=1546804390][/doublepost]So thanks for proving the numbers accurate then? These are numbers on the developer website for developers to use to determine which versions of iOS are most in use by potential customers.

As a news post (interest item or whatever) the numbers were pull off of there and reported to us, the general public.

Your’re the one that has decided they are or need to represent something else.

In addition to what’s “relavent” in your context, that stat tends to get spinned during keynotes as a indicator of progress of the Apple platform. That’s what I referred to.
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Brilliant straw man.

To further clarify: (NextStep) BSD Unix, the foundation of iOS, contains several routines to monitor and control CPU load. I would consider Apple intelligent enough to develop some functions to detect excessive cpu load, inform the user, and if required, handle cpu/battery load more intelligently based on user preferences.
Making that user-centric would even underline their good intentions that were lost during throttlegate.
If you wouldn’t want that, tell us about your informed decision