good on apple getting users to update. developers need to worry less and can focus on making a better experience if they just focus on the latest set of APIs
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iOS 13 Installed on 92% of iPhones Released in Last Four Years
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Yeah I finally had to downgrade from iOS 12 to iOS to 13 with my iPhone 7 Plus to transition to an iPhone 11. My iPhone 6 is still happy on iOS 12. 
This is a good thing for both Apple and developers. I don’t update if I’m not 90% sure my iPhone will work properly, thus, I like the option they included on the latest beta of iOS 13.6 to avoid new updates to download by themselves. But when I see a good work on Apple’s part I like to update my devices.
That’s why they should focus more in stability, bug prevention and maintaining the battery life. If they don’t make our devices work worse, we outright update.
I really wish iOS 13 to be an awful exception because they were rewriting the operating system from scratch or something similar. Otherwise, if we’re going to suffer this disaster every couple of years (iOS 11, 13, maybe 15) I’ll stop updating for periods of two years.
That’s why they should focus more in stability, bug prevention and maintaining the battery life. If they don’t make our devices work worse, we outright update.
I really wish iOS 13 to be an awful exception because they were rewriting the operating system from scratch or something similar. Otherwise, if we’re going to suffer this disaster every couple of years (iOS 11, 13, maybe 15) I’ll stop updating for periods of two years.
I hope they will fix iTunes downloads(and Configurator at least)
plus all the old bugs everywhere before introducing new ones!
plus all the old bugs everywhere before introducing new ones!
It's not really an argument or an achievement, but essentially more of a statistic that's really there for developers.
The new option (which is supposedly coming in iOS 13.6) is there to disable automatic download of OS updates (vs. just automatic installation that's there now).
Negativity, for the moment, is being conserved and will be released on Monday when there'll be a race to the bottom with snarky juvenile burns about how bored some are with WWDC.
There are zero AAA apps/games that can not run on a 4 yr old android device with a 4 yr old os.
That wasn't the question being asked.
The constant nagging seems to have paid off then....
I installed iOS 13 just last month. I hope for iOS 14 it won't be a similar story. But, I am not gonna be an earlier adopter like I was in the earlier days. Besides, it doesn't hurt to wait it out it out these days. Same story for macOS, I am on 10.13 and will upgrade to 10.14 next years. After that, I don't wants next.
iOS 13 was pretty rocky at first, but it's not bad now. Those who are on iOS 12 still have a rock-solid operating system, too.
Anywhere between 50% and 65% would be my estimate
Simply as (100+65+15+15)/4 = 48.75%
This of course ignores the fact that many Android phones are not solely reliant on Android updates to receive advance features as each OEM can implement many ahead of stock Android
Given that generally this 50-65% user base is 5x greater than Apple you would think developers would always target the larger number.
However as we all know the Iphone unit cost is generally higher and so likely disposable income of Iphone users is likely to be higher of this much smaller set of users.
Therefore this is an easier sub-group to target for likely sales of apps and subscriptions especially when you factor in key counties where market penetration/sales are higher.
This factor far outweighs the fact that more IOS devices are running the current release than Android
Outside these forums the average owners phone does not stop working/obsolete because it does not have the latest OS no more than your car for not having the latest engine management software.
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This is why developers want to write for iOS. Stable market compared to ”the others” on the Island.
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Indeed, Android people don’t buy apps. They don’t buy anything. Phone calls, emails, and text is all they do. Maybe Facebook/Messenger. That target market has no money, as you said. It’s a race to a bottom that was already a bottom; a race to nowhere. Yes as you said, iPhone people indeed have the extra money (or at least spend money, whether they have it or not , in the case of some people I know).
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Indeed, Android people don’t buy apps. They don’t buy anything. Phone calls, emails, and text is all they do. Maybe Facebook/Messenger. That target market has no money, as you said. It’s a race to a bottom that was already a bottom; a race to nowhere. Yes as you said, iPhone people indeed have the extra money (or at least spend money, whether they have it or not , in the case of some people I know).
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I don't get how this is seen as some kind of formidable success and cheered at every keynote... updates are free, there are so many notifications that you're basically forced to update if you don't want to be annoyed for the rest of your life. Some apps stop working or won't update if you don't update the system.... What is there for Tim Cook to brag about? I'm confused.
iOS 13 Installed on 92% of iPhones Released in Last Four Years
The accomplishment is that the platform is designed for longevity, compared to competing platforms where the OS company is different from the device manufacturer and the responsibility for providing device updates is with each individual device manufacturer and devices are often obsolete after 2...
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To my knowledge no US carrie would even support the original iPhone as none support 2g. And now with the carries dropping support for 3g no one will be able to use an iPhone 5 or older (the iPhone 5 has no support for volte). I know Verizon for example is cutting support for 3g in December and won't even activate a phone not compatible with volte.It will be interesting to see what people who refuse to upgrade do, though I would have to imagine its a vey small precent of people still on very old iPhones.
100% of iPhones released in the last 4 years look the same /s
In one way the 92% is impressive because it means bugs can be fixed quicker for the majority of uses if they have identical hardware and software, but the nagging can be tiresome.
In one way the 92% is impressive because it means bugs can be fixed quicker for the majority of uses if they have identical hardware and software, but the nagging can be tiresome.
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And all of us said so what to Apple.
just because your software is installed doesn’t mean we like it.
just because your software is installed doesn’t mean we like it.