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iOS 15 Compatible With All iPhones That Run iOS 14
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Darth Tulhu
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That is a GOOD point.
Perhaps Apple will still drop the axe earlier than we expect, though.
Food for thought.
I love my Air 2 and haven't felt the need to upgrade (even though I've been tempted). Hope iPadOS15 will run smoothly on it.
Yup.
For example, Spatial Audio, the new Maps city experiences and even the new animated Weather app backgrounds are only available on devices with A12 Bionic or above, i.e. iPhone XS or newer. HomeKeys specifically need iPhone XS or newer too.
THIS could be very interesting for many:
(from Apple.com) ...
Software Updates
iOS now offers a choice between two software update versions in the Settings app. You can update to the latest version of iOS 15 as soon as it’s released for the latest features and most complete set of security updates. Or continue on iOS 14 and still get important security updates until you’re ready to upgrade to the next major version.
It’s just further proof that apple is focused more and more on money and not innovation. Today was a massive opportunity To tell the world why an M1 iPad Pro with 16GB of ram exists (they could have last month too), but they didn’t.
Well, an iPad Air 1 is pretty much an iPhone 5s with a bigger screen. Still has an A7 chip and 1 GB RAM. The iPad Air 2 from 2014 with an A8X and 2 GB RAM (iPhone 6 with more RAM and more powerful SoC) and iPad mini 4 from 2015 (iPhone 6 with more RAM) can run it, so my guess is that it's the RAM that's a requirement. iPhone 6s has an A9 chip and 2 GB RAM (as does the first gen SE).
You mean iPhone 3G/iPod Touch 2G. They got iOS 4.2.1 but not 4.3 (that’s the only thing I can think of)
That's interesting, a lot more like how MacOS is handled.
I understand that. But given that every marquee feature seems to require the Neural Engine, it would seem that there's no real gain by having those older devices move to the newer operating system other than the fact that they have to.
This is something unbelievable! I remember doubting my SE will get iOS 13, wasn't even dreaming to get as far as 15.
It's kinda crazy! 2015-2022 = 7 years of support for A9 devices. Feels like a major milestone in device longevity. Bravo, Apple.
It's kinda crazy! 2015-2022 = 7 years of support for A9 devices. Feels like a major milestone in device longevity. Bravo, Apple.
That's a game changer. And one I've been hoping against hope for for several years now.
It truly is amazing. I had my iPad Air for 5 years.
It also means when iPadOS 16 roles around it would have been supported for 8 years! Thats insane!
6s user here... I will be buying the next generation Pro when it comes out this fall. There are already too many things the 6s doesn't run well for me and given that I should have upgraded a year or two ago, I'm not holding on to it another year just because it will stay on the upgrade path.
Are you serious? So a 1500 dollar iPhone 11 Pro Max can’t run an animated weather. Background? I had those running on my homescreen 24/7 on an iPhone 4 back in the day, wow!!
Hopefully it doesn't run like crap. That's usually the problem with Apple continuing to support these devices for so long; the performance isn't optimized and the OS runs way worse than it did when the device was newer (to the point where you really want to discard and upgrade to something newer).
remember this whenever someone mentions "APPLE'S PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE"
iPad Air 1 - introduced in 2013, with an A7 chip and 1 GB of RAM
iPhone 6s - introduced in 2015, with an A9 chip and 2 GB of RAM
A9 is a much faster chip and any of the newer versions of iOS would run lousy on on 1 GB of RAM (it was barely enough for a useable experience on iOS 11 & 12).
Yep, I guess the really big thing is it implies iOS 14 gets continued security updates going forward, not so pertinent this year, but for any devices dropped next year that could mean an even longer stay of execution on iOS15?
No, looks like they did roughly a 2015 cut-off. Strange that we are now in a situation where iPads are being supported longer than Macs.
I remember only one such instance: iPhone 4s and iOS 9. A sad tale indeed.
But I think Apple learned its lesson cause it hasn't really happened since.
The A7-A8 generation for example (iPhone 5s, 6, iPad Air 1) which was left at iOS 12, ran very smooth on their last software version, in fact they were running better on 12 than on iOS 11...
Wow. That's a major shift in how they are handling iOS updates. Wonder if that will also make it possible to roll back to the latest version of iOS 14 if the user isn't happy with iOS 15 (I would assume so, since there would have to be a version of iOS 14 that is being signed for all devices).
I don't think anyone that's still using a 6s or SE cares about that too much.
I think all has to do with the version number. iOS 15 beta firmware version would technically be higher than 14. So requiring a restore.