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As a workaround, save photos to the Files app, either to your local storage or iCloud storage. It should not delete it from there.
This issue may be related to APFS, as it only stores the file once to avoid duplicates, and either the Messages App or the APFS manager is not keeping track of how many different references exist for that specific file.
After reading some of this thread a had a look to see if a phone I saved was still there. Sure enough it had gone from my recent but was still i photo stream .
 
Not defending apple at all, but other than spam texts asking to by my junk car. I don’t think I ever deleted a message thread.
 
Wow, I have never seen so many bugs in an Apple OS/device before. Is the software getting that much more complicated?
 
Android doesn't have this ****** bugs iOS had with every iOS update.
Maybe, but it's also a fragmented OS that can't get any version to have remotely close to mainstream adoption, has a bunch of trash companies that modify and repackage it under their own crappy brand, and is riddled with 50x the malware of iOS so I think I'll stick with the iPhone

Also a bicycle doesn't ever have problems with its air conditioning system but you don't see me posting in the Porsche forums about it
 
No idea if this is related, but I appear to have lost 200-300 photos when I upgraded a 2016 SE to a 13 Mini. Both devices now have the same photo count, but a backup prior to the transfer shows more pix. I also went looking for a screenshot I took the end of August and it's not on either phone. I use Photosync to backup all pix to a computer so they are not gone completely, but they are definitely off the phones.
 
Apple iOS seems to what to not use your photos to post on to message boards and other inline photo websites! Android works like a charm!
 
I’m glad I don’t do iCloud backups, nor store my photos on iCloud.

Apple lost the plot way back in 2013 and still haven’t turned it around. It’s because the only thing they care about is Wall Street. Nothing will change while Wall Street and MBA management is in charge.
 
For those with iCloud sync, are the pictures also missing from icloud.com > photos? Maybe (hopefully) it’s just a sync bug with phones but the pics are still there.
 
Yeah. My 40gb worth of iMessage videos and images got deleted out of nowhere. I called up  support and they had no idea what happened and could not retrieve the data.

The worlds most advanced operating system.
You're touching on my #1 question: is this bug retroactive to threads that were deleted PRIOR to upgrading to iOS 15? In other words, is the absence of a link from previously-saved photos to a messages thread going to cause even legacy photos in my library to disappear?

If so, that's a MUCH bigger problem than what is stated by the author which at least has a workaround.
 
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Sounds like they used an INNER JOIN rather than an OUTER JOIN. Oops... noobie mistake.
 
We all love Craig Federighi but apart from his charisma, does he actually foster a culture where details matter? Apparently not. Apple’s software quality has never been great but it’s getting to the point of being ridiculous.
We all do? No, we don’t all “love” him, what a weird idolization.
 
You're touching on my #1 question: is this bug retroactive to threads that were deleted PRIOR to upgrading to iOS 15? In other words, is the absence of a link from previously-saved photos to a messages thread going to cause even legacy photos in my library to disappear?

If so, that's a MUCH bigger problem than what is stated by the author which at least has a workaround.
That‘s exactly what I want to know as well…
 
You're touching on my #1 question: is this bug retroactive to threads that were deleted PRIOR to upgrading to iOS 15? In other words, is the absence of a link from previously-saved photos to a messages thread going to cause even legacy photos in my library to disappear?

If so, that's a MUCH bigger problem than what is stated by the author which at least has a workaround.
I'm not sure but after I upgraded to ios 15 they literally got deleted without me doing anything.
 
All my photos and video backup to OneDrive, been doing that for almost 10yrs now.
Onedrive is a syncing system, not really billed as backup. If one or more photos are deleted or damaged locally, aren't they deleted in Onedrive, too?
 
That‘s exactly what I want to know as well…
As far as I can tell, (after some testing) photos saved prior to ios15 are safe. If you go to the meta data, all photos saved in ios14 say “saved from messages” photos prior to ios14 have no meta data on where they came from. Only photos saved from ios15 are having the issue that say “shared from messages”
 
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Funny how these issues only started with the software versions they started working on entirely from home. The last version, iOS 14, started development in 2019, so they had ample time to work on it before transitioning to a telecommuting setup.
What? Have you used Apple products before 2020? There have been major issues for releases even more than a decade ago. Like I said before, Catalina was broken for me too a point where I couldn’t even use it. Apple confirmed it was an issue on their code after hours of discussion with support. Promised a fix was coming. And now it’s stable.
 
the fallacy in your argument is best explained with an example.

Dead guy on your front lawn. He was shot in the head.
Dead guy on your front lawn last year died of a heart attack. And the one the year before that also died of a heart attack.

Just because two dead guys died of heart attacks doesn’t mean the third dead guy couldn’t have been shot in the head.
But you cannot guarantee that this specific bug is a result of working from home which people here are doing. Apple’s quality has been a roller coaster for a long time now. How is blaming this one specific big on work from home valid?

With your scenario, we don’t know if the guy died of a headshot or not.
 
What? Have you used Apple products before 2020? There have been major issues for releases even more than a decade ago. Like I said before, Catalina was broken for me too a point where I couldn’t even use it. Apple confirmed it was an issue on their code after hours of discussion with support. Promised a fix was coming. And now it’s stable.

Yes, but they weren’t this bad. I don’t recall a time when people discovered multiple bugs every day for 10 days straight and counting.
 
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