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Oh for f***'s sake. This has to be Apple's most botched iOS release ever.
Totally agree. I think Apple's deterioration started when they felt the need to have yearly updates of every OS. Rather than polish what they have and release every couple of years as they used to, they now feel the need to simultaneously release iOS, iWatch, tvOS, iPadOS, and watchOS. I see a lot of potential for disaster with this. Oh wait..the disaster is already here.

With all the hardware and software I have, I'm stuck with Apple, unfortunately. But I no longer suggest Apple to any new user.
 
And this is why I’m looking hard for better photo storage solutions. I appreciate the serious integration apple has with their ecosystem but I do not trust it to save my photos, and then it’s painful for sharing with family members. I have only 6000 photos, and I know I’m not even close to a power user! Just a new dad with lots of family pics that are very important to me.
I always use multiple backups from different sources as well as iCloud(Google, Amazon). They're both free and work in the background so I don't have to worry about photos "dissapppearing"
 
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I didn’t think downgrading is an option since Apple quit signing iOS 14.8 and below. Am I wrong on that?
iOS 14.8 is the latest signed updated from iOS 14.x

It will be signed until about a week after the release of the update to iOS 14.8

It could be iOS 14.8.1
 
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All these bugs are a result of working from home. Harder to collaborate on these types of issues. I'm all for working from home, but these bugs are the compromises.

Work from home.
If work-from-home is iOS 15's excuse, then how do we explain the bugs in oh let's say iOS 11?







 
And this is why I’m looking hard for better photo storage solutions. I appreciate the serious integration apple has with their ecosystem but I do not trust it to save my photos, and then it’s painful for sharing with family members. I have only 6000 photos, and I know I’m not even close to a power user! Just a new dad with lots of family pics that are very important to me.
Certainly keeping me on iOS 14 for a while long with 30,000 videos in iCloud.

Apple really needs more stringent testing - forget public betas.
 
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We'll see if iOS 17, iOS 19, etc will be along the same lines as iOS 11, iOS 13, and iOS 15
 
Initially I was all for Apple employees pushing to work from home. But if this is the kind of quality we can expect from employees “working” from home…
 
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And this is why I’m looking hard for better photo storage solutions. I appreciate the serious integration apple has with their ecosystem but I do not trust it to save my photos, and then it’s painful for sharing with family members. I have only 6000 photos, and I know I’m not even close to a power user! Just a new dad with lots of family pics that are very important to me.
Though to be fair, this is not just "photos disappearing". This is a very specific situation of a photo sent by someone else that was deleted when you delete the conversation. Yes, it is a bug, but does not impact the overall reliability of iCloud photos which has been solid for several years now. I never lost photos from it.

I do hope that you are doing backups because the most common cause of losing photos is a computer dying or being stolen or human error(oops, I meant to delete those other photos). It is a good idea to have a local time machine backup to an external hard drive. I would also recommend an offsite backup using a service like Backblaze that backs up to the cloud and can be restored even if you lose your whole house.

I have not found a photo system that solves all of my needs to be convenient to snap and store pictures, simple to browse and organize. basic editing and also sharing. They all do somethings well and miss on other things. Apple Photos does well as a starting point as it is well integrated and a good place to store the photos. The newer versions do allow you to use other apps for more advanced photo editing. Photos does fall down in I also have google photos setup on my phone and use the free plan to upload all my photos as they are taken. They are not full resolution that way but you don't lose a lot and it is a good extra backup option. It is also fairly easy to share from Google photos. I'm not sure if it lets you setup albums and control access. not something I have need for.
 
I wonder if Timmy ever hears about these serious bugs/issues, or even cares. Shouldn’t this be the type of issue that apple should get a fix out for FAST?
 
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love it! You’re saving them wrong!
I wonder if Timmy even hears about this type of stuff….
Tim uses Apple devices every day, and most likely not just for work, but as his personal devices too. There's every chance he's not just hearing about these bugs but experiencing them first hand. This one in particular isn't hard to come across or reproduce.

Whether or not he's overly concerned about it is another matter.
 
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A serious bug in the iOS 15 Messages app can cause some saved photos to be deleted, according to multiple complaints we've heard from MacRumors readers and Twitter users.

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If you save a photo from a Messages thread and then go on to delete that thread, the next time an iCloud Backup is performed, the photo will disappear.

Even though the image is saved to your personal iCloud Photo Library, it appears to still be linked to the Messages app in iOS 15, and saving it does not persist through the deletion of the thread and an iCloud backup.

To replicate this bug, the following steps must be taken:
  1. Save a photo from a Messages conversation to your Camera Roll.
  2. Check to see that the photo has been saved.
  3. Delete the Messages conversation the photo came from. The photo will still be in your iCloud Photo Library at this point.
  4. Perform an iCloud Backup, and the photo disappears.
This is a concern because most users keep the iCloud Backup feature enabled and it's something that happens automatically. If you're someone who regularly deletes message threads, if there's a photo that you want to keep, you won't be able to keep it with iCloud Backup turned on. We tested this bug on an iPhone running iOS 15.1 beta 2 and had our photo deleted after deleting the Messages thread and performing an iCloud Backup, so the issue has not been addressed in the current beta as of yet.


Until this bug is fixed, if you've downloaded photos from the Messages app, you'll want to make sure to keep those Messages conversations and not delete them to prevent them from being automatically removed from your devices.

(Thanks, Chad!)

Article Link: iOS 15 Messages Bug Causes Saved Photos to Be Deleted
And this is the company that wants to scan our phone and photos with the promise that everything will be just fine.
 
If work-from-home is iOS 15's excuse, then how do we explain the bugs in oh let's say iOS 11?







Incompetence.
 
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