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Work your Magic! But I think I may use and abuse my iPhone but I paid hefty price for it so why not!!
Given what I have seen in this year’s iOS, I don’t think it’s you. That’s why I keep saying that I can’t wait for June. I’m so ready for iOS 17! Sorry that it is giving you a hard time, fingers crossed that it is going to get better.
 
With every new release I am hopeful but this 🤬 still has not been fixed after multiple years and multiple complaints via the Feedback App. At one point it even listed it as „more than 10 reports“ on my case in the Feedback app.

I also just deleted all photo attachments from Messages on my Mac and 10 minutes later, photos from LAST YEAR magically re-appear. Those have been deleted a long time ago. What the heck

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Update to this: now, hours later, the two photos I could not delete earlier have magically disappeared but wait ... now photos start appearing on the same iMessage threat that were not there earlier and have already been deleted weeks ago like WHAT THE F

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I guess since I don't keep messages past 30 days I have not encountered your issue. 😆
 
Quick question to any who had to do a reset under .4 beta ...

I have set up FaceID however it is very hit / miss for accuracy. I am seeing a good bit of FaceID failing and the device switching to password (I have an 8 digit pin). I don't remember FaceID ever being this bad, even in the early days of my 13PM. Anyone else seeing reset or reset/FaceID issues?

Thoughts or recommendations welcome.
 
Damn…upon signing in to check my developer account membership status (yup, still expired) and flirting with the idea of renewing, Apple locked me out of my Apple ID and then forced me to reset my password. After doing so, my Beta Updates page in Settings changed to show the same warning message y’all are getting:

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Looks like I’ll be renewing come payday. :mad::) Gotta keep up with the Joneses, or should I say the Banglazeds. ;) Fingers crossed Timmy can keep his grubby little paws from raising rates until then.


UPDATE: And now it’s back to “normal…”:

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Damn…upon signing in to check my developer account membership status (yup, still expired) and flirting with the idea of renewing, Apple locked me out of my Apple ID and then forced me to reset my password. After doing so, my Beta Updates page in Settings changed to show the same warning message y’all are getting:

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Looks like I’ll be renewing come payday. :mad::) Gotta keep up with the Joneses, or should I say the Banglazeds. ;) Fingers crossed Timmy can keep his grubby little paws from raising rates until then.


UPDATE: And now it’s back to “normal…”:

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I think the activation server had some problems because yesterday it was constantly asking me to log in to my iCloud account and whenever I was trying to key in my password I was receiving an error message asking me to try again later.

At some point, after many trials and errors, it accepted and I was again logged in.
 
This just showed up for me today. First time seeing AirPods listed in my iCloud devices. Is this a 16.4 thing, or an iCloud thing?

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One item of note: the AirPods don’t actually show the firmware version. They show what iOS version the phone is on. Probably a bug.
 
Decided to do the public beta because Apple has finally added folders for playlists not personally curated. So far it's run very well, but when you swipe down to bring up the lock screen, is there a specific name for that? I ask because I want to send feedback regarding formatting the text at the bottom Like "Do Not Disturb" blending in with the notification icons. First bug I noticed after doing the update.
 
Any reference for that? There is evidence that constant GPS use can heat up a mobile device, - and I can imagine that if you would constantly take geo-tagged photos every second for 25 minutes (that´s about the number given by @TheYayAreaLiving 🎗) the phone indeed will get warmer. Or if you are in a place with e.g. an ambient temperature already around or above 35°C… in any case the iPhone will/should for example dimm down (or even black) the display or disable the camera flash - forgot about the flash as a source for heating up the iPhone 🤓.

Yes, I know, it’s the beta and strange things happen… in any case - if the pano-function is continuously affected, it might be worth to reset the camera settings (sadly there is no individual reset for that, you have to go via Reset All Settings, which will require to reconfigure network/keyboard/apple pay/location settings afterwards).
Unless something has gone terribly wrong, not sure constant use of the GPS module should heat up the phone that much… Yes, the chip will heat up, but continuous use alone shouldn’t bring on thermal issues.

Think about this… If you are driving and using a mapping program, it is constantly using GPS as well as having the screen on, cellular modem & possibly BT as well… and your phone would still not heat up to the point of dimming due to heat.

UNLESS you’ve got the phone sitting up on the dash on a hot sunny day, but then that would be external (ambient as mentioned above) temperatures.
 
Unless something has gone terribly wrong, not sure constant use of the GPS module should heat up the phone that much… Yes, the chip will heat up, but continuous use alone shouldn’t bring on thermal issues.

Think about this… If you are driving and using a mapping program, it is constantly using GPS as well as having the screen on, cellular modem & possibly BT as well… and your phone would still not heat up to the point of dimming due to heat.

UNLESS you’ve got the phone sitting up on the dash on a hot sunny day, but then that would be external (ambient as mentioned above) temperatures.

and all that said, lives in Vegas, a desert. Not surprised there are heat issues 😆😂
 
Unless something has gone terribly wrong, not sure constant use of the GPS module should heat up the phone that much… Yes, the chip will heat up, but continuous use alone shouldn’t bring on thermal issues.

Think about this… If you are driving and using a mapping program, it is constantly using GPS as well as having the screen on, cellular modem & possibly BT as well… and your phone would still not heat up to the point of dimming due to heat.

UNLESS you’ve got the phone sitting up on the dash on a hot sunny day, but then that would be external (ambient as mentioned above) temperatures.

I still don’t know why this would be the GPS module causing the issue. As I stated at length above, extreme burst shooting can cause CMOS sensors to overheat, degrading performance.

See this from Sony, which produces the iPhone CMOS (camera) sensor: https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00186874

1500 photos in one day is a TON of load on that sensor.
 
Any reference for that? There is evidence that constant GPS use can heat up a mobile device, - and I can imagine that if you would constantly take geo-tagged photos every second for 25 minutes (that´s about the number given by @TheYayAreaLiving 🎗) the phone indeed will get warmer. Or if you are in a place with e.g. an ambient temperature already around or above 35°C… in any case the iPhone will/should for example dimm down (or even black) the display or disable the camera flash - forgot about the flash as a source for heating up the iPhone 🤓.

Yes, I know, it’s the beta and strange things happen… in any case - if the pano-function is continuously affected, it might be worth to reset the camera settings (sadly there is no individual reset for that, you have to go via Reset All Settings, which will require to reconfigure network/keyboard/apple pay/location settings afterwards).
You may well have overheated the sensor with that many photos. That could lead to the type of problems you’re having.
I’m not sure why I need to provide a citation to what seems to be a relatively uncontroversial statement. But since you asked:

It is well known in the DSLR community that high frame rate shooting can lead to camera sensor overheating. See this article about Panasonic cameras: https://www.cined.com/cameras-and-overheating-discussion-with-panasonic/

The laws of physics were not repealed for iPhone cameras. The same issues are at play, with some additional factors leading to the potential for more overheating, namely the small space in which the cameras and their components are situated as well as more processor intensive photo features introduced this year in the new phones.

1500 photos in one day is a huge load on the camera sensor and image signal processor (ISP). That would be over 60 photos an hour or more than 1 per minute if you did nothing for 24 straight hours but take photos. I am assuming that our friend @Theyayarealiving did not spend 24 straight hours taking one photo per minute, but rather took them in a much shorter time frame (guessing 4-6 hours), many perhaps in burst mode. So that’s 4+ pictures per minute on average for nearly a quarter of a day. And likely more concentrated than that.

If those photos were ProRaw, the burden on the sensor/ISP would be exponentially higher given the tremendous number of pixels being processed and the intensity of the processing.

In my opinion, if the shooting was at that kind of tempo, there’s absolutely no question you could see some artifacts or misprocessed photos. Even more if video was shot as well using Cinematic mode or the stabilization mode.

For giggles, here’s what AI thinks of this issue: https://www.craft.do/s/atd47RgQf1NTUw
Unless something has gone terribly wrong, not sure constant use of the GPS module should heat up the phone that much… Yes, the chip will heat up, but continuous use alone shouldn’t bring on thermal issues.

Think about this… If you are driving and using a mapping program, it is constantly using GPS as well as having the screen on, cellular modem & possibly BT as well… and your phone would still not heat up to the point of dimming due to heat.

UNLESS you’ve got the phone sitting up on the dash on a hot sunny day, but then that would be external (ambient as mentioned above) temperatures.
and all that said, lives in Vegas, a desert. Not surprised there are heat issues 😆😂
In the summer you’d be right. However, this month, the temperature in LV has not exceeded 70°F / 21° C.

I was not in Las Vegas. I was on a mini vacation. My iPhone overheated in Seattle, Washington. The phone started to get warmed when I was on a cruise. It was a cold windy day. So, I don't think the nature weather has anything to do with it. Just as @gwhizkids mentioned, it overheated due to taking so many photos in a shorter amount of time. The GPS was constantly running in the background along with having 500 Safari tabs open. See guys.. I really need an iPhone Ultra. I need it for extreme usage.

Lastly, just to give you an idea. I took well over 3000+ photos within 4 days. So my iPhone was being used and abused. I don't think it was happy for me.

Lesson learned: Don't take too many photos. Well.. that's not going to work for me.
 

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and all that said, lives in Vegas, a desert. Not surprised there are heat issues 😆😂
In the summer you’d be right. However, this month, the temperature in LV has not exceeded 70°F / 21° C.

The heating issues are no joke in Las Vegas. But this is the best time because everyone leaves this town and it's pretty empty outside. Thus, less amount of waiting everywhere.

Lastly, Las Vegas has been facing extreme weather. Yesterday, it was snowing all day long. We have bipolar weather.

 
I was not in Las Vegas. I was on a mini vacation. My iPhone overheated in Seattle, Washington. I was on a mini vacation. The phone started to get warmed when I was on a cruise. It was a cold windy day. So, I don't think the nature weather has anything to do with it. Just as @gwhizkids mentioned, it overheated due to taking so many photos in a shorter amount of time. The GPS was constantly running in the background along with having 500 Safari tabs open. See guys.. I really need an iPhone Ultra. I need it for extreme usage.

Lastly, just to give you an idea. I took well over 3000+ photos within 4 days. So my iPhone was being used and abused. I don't think it was happy for me.

Lesson learned: Don't take too many photos. Well.. that's not going to work for me.

Depending if your camera has Location Services on, whether you share photos, whether you upload to iCloud or ..., your device can actually be doing a bit of work each and every time you take a photo. That is along with everything else your deice is doing. If you are outside and it is sunny with auto-brightness on, if your cell signal is weak ... Yeah, I could see it getting warm.
 
The heating issues are no joke in Las Vegas. But this is the best time because everyone leaves this town and it's pretty empty outside. Thus, less amount of waiting everywhere.

Lastly, Las Vegas has been facing extreme weather. Yesterday, it was snowing all day long. We have bipolar weather.


Yea it’s been cold in Vegas as it normally is in the winter, I think Vegas has had more snow than New York City this winter.
 
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