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Haven’t had any crashes since the first one. Another person also mentioned they haven’t seen one since their first crash either so that’s reassuring. Seems like it may be a rite of passage for joining the 16.4 beta

Not having any issues aside from the photo picker in Messages glitching out but there's an easy workaround for that. Pretty stable on 14 PM.
 
Restoring a backup does not revert the software. You just factory reset 16.4 and restored a backup from 16.3.1; you have to downgrade with IPSW to actually go back to 16.3.1.
Thanks. So I can restore with a 16.3.1 IPSW then restore the backup I made on my MAcbook. Right?
So why did it say it was erasing the iphone before the restore?
 
Had 2 kernel panics overnight now - woke to "your passcode is required after iPhone restarts" - iPhone 14 Pro.

Have also had two restarts when starting CarPlay (ie, plug iPhone into Polestar, phone reboots), but works OK after that.
 
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Ah, OK. My terminology is from windows, where when you make a backup of the system, you can restore it from a later version so no downgrade stuff there. Thanks.
Yes, the 'backup' is merely your data and settings, not the actual operating system.
So you can restore your 'backup' on the same or newer version of iOS, but won't actually restore that version.

(ie if you backed up with iOS 16.3, you can restore that backup on all versions >16.3. If you had a new phone with iOS 17, you can restore your data/settings from your iOS 16.3 backup but of course it won't put 16.3 on there)
 
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Haven’t had any crashes since the first one. Another person also mentioned they haven’t seen one since their first crash either so that’s reassuring. Seems like it may be a rite of passage for joining the 16.4 beta

Not having any issues aside from the photo picker in Messages glitching out but there's an easy workaround for that. Pretty stable on 14 PM.
Haven’t had any crashes as far as I’ve seen with both an OTA and IPSW install on 13 mini. Is it a 14 (Pro) issue? 🤔
 
I thought it was using the same standard that Safari for Mac has been using for the last several years?
From the bits I’ve read it uses the same underlying technology but I thought I’d also seen somewhere about additional setup required on the site as iOS notification support is part of the web app framework and needs the site to have been added to the home page in order to work.
 
Check out this strange glitch I encountered while ordering a jalapeños Bagel 🥯.

After closing the safari app it went away but still 🤷🏻‍♀️

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I thought it was using the same standard that Safari for Mac has been using for the last several years?
Web Push support has only happened with macOS Monterey last year. Before that Apple rolled their own APNS websites could integrate with (for $99 / year). I believe MacRumors is still using that when it detects Apple devices.
 
Is there a setting I’m unaware of to prevent iOS updates from downloading over cellular?

The last few updates have presented me with a choice to allow downloading over cellular at the time of update, but this beta of 16.4 didn’t give me that choice. Later that night I noticed my cellular network had pulled down 5GB of data so my best guess is that it downloaded the update that way. I did also notice the update was really slow to download but I figured the servers were getting hammered.

Anyway, curious if any of you have experience with this.
 
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