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This is a very handy feature. Apple should also work on finding “duplicate emails”. Wonder if this feature exist.
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iOS 16 Beta 1 ― Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements
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Just for sake of argument, is it possible that a reinstall is the fix more so than the type (OTA/IPSW)? Never can tell because you can't reinstall via OTA. But IF they are 100% identical as Apple says, then the process of a reinstall would be the silver bullet more so than the way you install. Again just food for thought.
Totally agree.
we found that installing using the IPSW file on some phones in the first place though, didn’t have the same bugs as OTA phones had.
So as you point out, Craigs answer to that was it shouldn’t make a difference… but part of the discussion was trying to show him, it does.
I was convinced and the only thing that made any logical sense to me, was that the process in the way files were delivered were slightly different opening up areas of corruption shall we say, leading to different bugs found in the two forms of updating. But that was squashed with the “binary” identical reply.
I never got an answer, more of a polite brush off from Craig and then a courtesy Senior Apple tech to make sure my phone was ok. Even he when asked directly about the situation dodged the bullet.
I wasnt out to prove I’d found some big ground breaking issue, just it bothered me seeing the better results using IPSW files and I wanted to know why. I find it fascinating and frustrating at the same time we never got a proper answer.
To add: in summary of the whole experience they were both very driven on, was there a fix available/that worked. The why and the how never really was that strongly on their radar.
EDIT: so my theory after all this was, if we were told to do reinstall with the IPSW file anyway to fix any OTA issues, and there were phones with bugs from the OTA installs not found on the IPSW file installed phones… why not cut out the middle man and just go straight to IPSW file installs/upgrades? Save a lot of time with questions, over heating and performance of your phone.
Also I found that, you can’t really call a bug in your phone, 100% a bug, coming off the back of an OTA install, until, you do a reinstall using the IPSW file and it persists, you’ve then found a bug… because that “glitch” can disappear after and not actually be a bug that you needed to wait for beta 2 or 3 for. (Yes there are exceptions to this with major bugs we all see in common on here) but to use @dk001 Wi-Fi issue as an example that was present after an OTA install which cleared up after the IPSW file reinstall, illustrates perfectly some of the points I tried to make to Apple. And @twinpeaks_sf over heating issue I reckon would sort itself out after an IPSW file reinstall down to a poor OTA install.
I’ll say it again, not trying to be a big shot know it all what ever here, just interested in the facts and what they uncovered.
Bottom line, IPSW file reinstalls/upgrades seem to be more superior and come with less problems and glitches in the software.
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are you able to see what kind of distance from your mac you can go, i know we can probably use handoff but just a question
Depends what you want to look for (same subject? sender? date/time?) - Mail can be AppleScripted.
Photos syncing its been like this a couple of days now. Was all working fine. Server side maybe.
I did a search for “playlists” and nothing…
…anyone else lose playlists in Apple Music?
I may need to drop back to my backup just to get those back…or hope they are still in iTunes…too much work done to lose half of them (some are still there).
…anyone else lose playlists in Apple Music?
I may need to drop back to my backup just to get those back…or hope they are still in iTunes…too much work done to lose half of them (some are still there).
Turn off Private relay - iCloud settings
Turn off Private WIFI Address - WIFI settings
Turn off Limit IP address Tracking - WIFI Settings
see if any of that helps.
Last resort, reinstall the beta using the developer IPSW file. Data wont be touched. It just reinstalls the iOS again.
Seems to have helped a friend on here with a similar sounding problem.
see posts for guides: #1015 and #620
Don't quote me on this, but I think you can log out of Apple Music (via iTunes) and back in, so your phone will pull all the data back, fresh. like logging out of iCloud and back in helps.
you sign out of iTunes that way, well it was when I did it for my wife's IP SE when she had a similar problem after an official update last year.
I was having wifi slow downs on my iPhone and iPad. I changed my mesh network to stop using ip6 and it solved the slow down for me.
Was it towards the end of iOS 13 or for iOS 14 we were messaging each other about OTA vs direct install in Finder via IPSW? We’ve been on this train for a few years now.
One thing still remains true, reinstalling via the IPSW directly as opposed to OTA seems to “solve” most issues. Possibly because the OTA file might need more files on demand and if there’s any hitch in the process, some small file might not get some small line of code, and then that causes havoc until the next update where it’s THEN corrected from the OTA update.
Let us not forget that things can take a turn when DB2 is released. Beta tester be warned
orientation lock fixes it for me.
This and the duplicate photos feature works very well. Glad they finally added this!
Sounds about right.
And that’s what I was trying to communicate to Craig with case studies and examples of situations the reinstall has done exactly what your experienced. We even did a test for him and it showed a phone with a bug done by OTA was present and not in a phone done with IPSW file and then the IPSW file reinstall got rid of that bug
But categorically he was having none of it because they are “binary identical”
iPhone syncing with iTunes in general seems to be broken in beta 1. At least in my case my iPad 4 still syncs just fine, which leads me to believe it is a bug with the iPhone software keeping it from syncing.
having checked the list, do not see an entry yet for Banque Pop (a French bank). Anyone know if it works or not?
If history proves correct, I’d be very careful about upgrading to the next release. Apple typically pours a ton of engineering resources to make the first dev seed stable. Beta 2 is when they start making any major changes they held off from the 1st dev seed, so it’s often much flakier.
and that has been borne out by past releases. My GPS woes in iOS 13 really became more pronounced in beta 2.
It would be helpful if it allowed you to CHOOSE the contact account in which to retain the merged contact record. I am curious if it merely makes links to the duplicates and then hides them. But it seems to keep the record that is kept in iCloud contacts..
That’s not how it’s designed.
Any update involves an integrity check to make sure the right file has been downloaded from Apple’s servers and as Craig responded, there’ll be a cryptographic signature check to ensure everything went well.
OTA is done using small files that’ll either be added or replaced as a whole and not by individual lines of code.
I’m still not totally convinced that IPSW is a better way to update for two reasons.
1. There’s no way to OTA a second time in case of an issue.
2. No one’s tested OTA vs IPSW on two identical devices with similar setup and posted their results.
While true that is very tough for any of us to do. Call it impossible for us to do.
However the testing many of us have done on our own or been part of a group test is very indicative that ipsw is the better option.
For now I'll have to go with that.
That’s just my opinion and I was in the IPSW group myself until the email response from Craig. And I still try IPSW anytime I’m having issues. Haven’t seen much difference in iOS 15 either way.
Hopefully they’ll focus more on stability in iOS 16 like they did with iOS 12. Some bugs get real annoying.