I'm sure the next CEO at Apple won't have any bugs in newly released software. /s
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iOS 17.2 and tvOS 17.2 Kill TV Show and Movie Wishlists With No Warning
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These are minute bugs that affect .01% of users. Even a middle manager wouldn't lose their job over these. This commenter obviously has problem with Cook that goes deeper than a few bugs.
With iOS 17.2, iPadOS 17.2, and tvOS 17.2, Apple removed the option to purchase TV shows and movies from the iTunes Store apps, redirecting customers to the Apple TV app instead. Unfortunately, Apple's move to consolidate purchasing and viewing in the Apple TV app has done away with wishlists, and customers who used the feature got no warning about their elimination.
On Reddit, Twitter, the MacRumors forums, and the Apple Support Community, customers are complaining about the change. From the MacRumors forums:
In the iTunes Store app on the iPhone and iPad, and the separate iTunes TV Shows and iTunes Movies apps on the Apple TV, there were options to add TV shows and movies to a dedicated wishlist when browsing, which consumers used to save the content for later and watch for sales.
The wishlists did not transfer over to the Apple TV app with these updates, so some customers who had compiled long watch lists are unable to access those curated lists or copy them over to a new location. Some users are able to open up the iTunes Store app on iOS devices and tap on the hamburger button in the upper right corner to see their wishlists, but this does not appear to be working for everyone. Those who compiled lists on the Apple TV appear to have no way to access them. From Reddit:
In tvOS 17.2, iOS 17.2, and iPadOS 17.2, there is a "+" button that can be used for saving content for future watching, but this adds it to the Up Next feature, which can be rather more cluttered than a traditional wishlist.
With tvOS 17.2, Apple disabled the separate iTunes Movies and iTunes TV Shows apps during the beta testing process. The option to purchase TV shows and movies from the iTunes Store app on the iPhone and the iPad was removed at the time iOS 17.2 and iPadOS 17.2 were released through a server side update.
It is not clear if Apple will reimplement wishlists in some way given the number of upset customers, but it seems unlikely. There were similar complaints when Apple removed App Store wishlists way back with iOS 11, but that feature did not return.
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Yet another feature/app customers actually use/depend on getting Hypercarded/QTVRd/Apertured by Apple.
It's as if no one at Apple actually talks to anyone outside whatever bubble they all live it... They use their iPhone, iPad, Mac a certain way, so that's what everyone must do. They don't use Wishlists, therefore no one does, therefore why move them to the new App? Can we setup a GoFundMe to make sure Apple Employees in these key roles get some field trips into the real world and interact with users outside the bubble from time to time? Even just once a year?
Sigh.
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Do you mean he is not a micro manager? Why should the head of a company, and specifically such a large company have to make all the decisions?
Here is the reality. They are not driven by status quo, they are driven by change. Some decisions are made that work, some don’t work. Not all are expected to work and they never have, never will. They will try some things people don’t like and they may change that.
It’s pretty much a Tim Hater forum. Some people find it hard to see the positives in Apple. The old saying that an Umpire/Referee can only please half the people, half the time is exponentially increased when everyone wants something different from a smartphone, laptop, pc, operating system and it comes from a single manufacturer.
People want someone to blame, but it mostly comes down to being a slave to something that could never actually deliver what they want.
I see lots of positives in Apple. Their hardware lasts for years. Doesn't matter which machine you buy. MacOS is still the best desktop you can buy. The iPad is the most flexible computing platform on the market. The iPhone is built like a tank.
But iOS has been rotting from the core for too long. What should be obvious UX changes to make accessibility and ergonomics a priority just aren't happening. Consider that despite phone screens getting larger your spare homesceen icons still (still!) float to the top away from your thumbs just as they did in iPhone OS 1. There are 3 camera shortcuts on the lock screen and only one of them can be changed. The control centre should sit to one side on the multitasking screen instead of being at the top of the screen away from your thumbs. The universal back gesture from Android needs to be adopted.
Now maybe the control center one is the most difficult to code but the rest are pretty simple changes that would go a long way. But Apple keeps ignoring these vestiges and dead ends. It needs to tidy up iOS before putting in anything new and shiny.
(And for parity I could level a lot of the same complaints at Android as well)
Just buy physical media guys! It’s the future!
some good points, and I kinda agree with you - but now imagine the outcry here IF Apple were going to make those change
I will say one thing, compared to the "TV Series" app, the Apple TV app is significantly faster at loading series that have a LOT of episodes.
On the TV Series app, opening 'Supernatural' with its over 300 episodes, it would take a good 20 to 30secs to load it all in (thumbnails, descriptions, etc...).
On the Apple TV app, opening 'Supernatural', it loads pretty much instantly.
On the TV Series app, opening 'Supernatural' with its over 300 episodes, it would take a good 20 to 30secs to load it all in (thumbnails, descriptions, etc...).
On the Apple TV app, opening 'Supernatural', it loads pretty much instantly.
Or go back to sailing the high seas.
My care factor for buying movies / shows from Apple these days is, zero.
Almost 400 movies I have purchased, haven't bought anything for a couple of years now.
Either way, this is a basic feature that should have been ported across, or at least still made available in the 2 older apps until they had a replacement available.
As long as people can get their old list out of the system for a while, no biggie. I’d argue it’s better in a sense. Tap Share and then Reminders or whatever app you want to add it to. Heck, even make a shared list so the whole family can contribute.
Apple, making everything worse with each passing year.
Boneheaded move by Apple. Just utterly stupid.
I hope they back track this mistake, but I know they won’t
Think about how Jobs and his team managed the product and software pipeline. They were a hands ON executive team. No, Jobs himself didn’t make every single decision, but he sure as heck knew what all those decisions were, who made them and why. I don’t get the impression that Cook has the same approach.
I’m sad to inform you that the status quo is in fact their bottom line since they have several billion dollars worth of investors and a board of directors who demand that Apple make more and more and more money. Innovation is no longer Apple’s primary business focus. Making and selling millions and millions of iPhones is.
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Come on now. This is a real issue and it isn’t just the wishlist thing. The entire Apple TV app has become increasingly useless over the last two years or so. Merging the movie and TV stores into a single interface makes the whole thing an unmitigated mess and for no evident reason other than Apple attempting to discourage one time purchases and encourage subscriptions. It’s consumer hostile in the worst way.
Regardless, I shifted back to physical media once all of that become evident. 4k UHD Blu-Ray is vastly superior to Apple’s implementation of streaming 4k UHD and a disc can’t disappear from your library because “this content is no longer available in your region” or similar nonsense.
The Apple TV doesn’t have the iTunes Store app, so that isn’t really a great solution.
Sad to inform you but…
Cook is not Jobs, no surprise. Jobs was the head of a startup. Apple are no longer a startup and shouldn’t be in the same group as that. But Cook is the CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world. Clearly he and Apple, as a company have a responsibility to their shareholders. You’re suggesting that this is the reason they no longer innovate. However to suggest they longer do this is absolutely wrong. I think people know this and I’m guessing, for arguments sake, people are playing devils advocate, because no one can seriously suggest Apple don’t continue to innovate.
M series chips, H series chips, Vision Pro. Whilst clearly they have a focus on producing the best phones they know how, it doesn’t detract from their other development ideas. They also work closely with other companies to innovate, and develop strategic partnerships.. Apple rarely buy startups rather than working with them or providing them tools to develop. It doesn’t always pay off ($1/2 billion to GT Technologies is an example) but Thunderbolt with Intel certainly did.
Ever heard of Android Auto? It came from CarPlay innovation. Spatial Audio is becoming a thing because of Apple. Was it around before? Maybe, but it now belongs to the masses (who can afford it).
Edit: The Apple Watch is the most popular watch in the world. Its health and notification system is also class leading. It has saved more lives than people can count. Tim Cook has said time and again, Apples biggest contribution will be in health. Apple does much much more than sell iPhones. 🤦🏻
'No longer innovate my arse'. Ridiculous.
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