iOS 17.4 Features: What's New in iOS 17.4

[efktd]

so a lime emoji. awesome, now I want a margarita!

 

[Japan Ricardo]

Also, next step with this multi language approach is the ability for maps to use the local language, so it knows how to pronounce street names and cities.

Exactly. It's completely useless here in Japan when Maps tries to combine Japanese place names with English directions. It seems like it should be an easy thing to do.

 

[bg1419]

Anybody else notice they got rid of some emojis? All the family ones have been reduced to just four options, and they boring blue boxes with white genderless outlines showing one or two adults and one or two children, rather than single dad or single mom with sons/daughters, mom and dad, mom and mom, dad and dad, two sons, two daughters, one of each, etc.

 

[Janichsan]

If I send a mushroom emoji to someone who doesn't have 17.4, what would happen?

This:

 

[Camerondonal]

I must admit that a part of me was hoping the UK would somehow sneak through the gate and have access to the EU-only features as well....but alas! Thanks Brexit voters for another delightful gift

 

[Camerondonal]

You’re correct. Apple”s support document says: “The country or region of your Apple ID must be set to one of the countries or regions of the European Union, and you must be physically located in the European Union.” and “If you leave the European Union for short-term travel, you'll continue to have access to alternative app marketplaces for a grace period. If you're gone for too long, you'll lose access to some features, including installing new alternative app marketplaces. Apps you installed from alternative app marketplaces will continue to function, but they can't be updated by the marketplace you downloaded them from.” (https://support.apple.com/en-gb/118110).
Also, appd are not disabled when you change storefronts (what Apple calls counties and regions) or use a different Apple ID (but updates will need the correct Apple ID password).

That's incredibly heavy-handed and petty. There's something about the App Store monopoly that really seems to bring out Apple's dark side 👎🏻

 

[Camerondonal]

I read somewhere that the ability to access the alternative app stores is location based - i.e. if you have an EU account, but go outside the EU it will be disabled. Is this true?

If it is, it potentially creates a significant problem for my daughter. She's in college in the UK, and bounces back and forth between Ireland and the UK. She has an Irish Apple ID, so if she does use the alternative stores, will they, and more importantly the apps she downloads, be disabled whenever she goes back to college?

Hopefully Apple will stop being so heavy-handed and petty about this. In the meantime, she'll either have to avoid the alternative app stores or use a VPN when at college

 

[casperghst42]

that is so petty. then again, i'd expect people to defend apple , showing the deepness of their stockholm syndrom and the way the chose to solve their cognitive dissonance . fabulous, truly.

If you look at how much money Apple make on the AppStore then you'll realize that they will do what ever it takes to defend the lock-in.

I personally had looked forward to a firefox which was not a re-branded safari on iPadOS, but I guess it will take sometime before that happens.

 

[Asthmatic Kitty]

Hmm they seem to have changed the way 12-hour time is displayed from am/pm to AM/PM. Do not like.

 

[ifxf]

Is Apple now going to bother you to enable stolen device protection after every update?

 

[Camerondonal]

Apparently it won’t work with VPNs. The user needs to be physically located in an EU country. From Apple’s support document: “The country or region of your Apple ID must be set to one of the countries or regions of the European Union, and you must be physically located in the European Union.” and “If you leave the European Union for short-term travel, you'll continue to have access to alternative app marketplaces for a grace period. If you're gone for too long, you'll lose access to some features, including installing new alternative app marketplaces. Apps you installed from alternative app marketplaces will continue to function, but they can't be updated by the marketplace you downloaded them from.” (https://support.apple.com/en-gb/118110).

Isn't the whole point of a VPN that it can simulate physical presence in another country? How would Apple's systems be able to tell?

 

[spunkybart]

Only the iPhone 15 has 80% optimised battery charging. I’d suggest < pre iPhone 15 don’t actually have the same ability as the 15.

I have optimized charging on my 14 Pro. The setting is on the same screen as the max battery capacity.

 

[SidricTheViking]

No battery section there either

still nothing

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Ok. Perhaps I took it for granted that you have an iPhone 15. Do you? I understand that this feature is available only on the iPhone 15 models.

 

[miiwtoo]

Don't be angry. It’s not a big deal. Use Coconut Battery and you will find it on your old phone.

my old phone, funny pal

 

[carlob]

I'm in EU, updating right now. Is there a switch I can flip to keep all the stuff as it was until this release? Not interested in alternative anything wanna stay in the walled garden.

 

[Sogeman]

wait, so none of the EU stuff made it to iPadOS?

Not enough ipad users to warrant gatekeeper status

 

[boswald]

so a lime emoji. awesome, now I want a margarita!

Get one for me, too!

 

[Sogeman]

Let's wait and see, if there are changes for FireFox in the next months.

I'd be surprised if they waste money on developing a separate app (and support it)

 

[k1121j]

Ok. Perhaps I took it for granted that you have an iPhone 15. Do you? I understand that this feature is available only on the iPhone 15 models.

That would explain it. Thank you for letting me know.

 

[k1121j]

There is no reason to limit those charge cycle count things to iPhone 15 series.
The phone shall have that data because if the genius bar can see them, then it shall be available to us as well.

Or are the batteries as bad in the 14 as I think they are. After 500 days and a less then daily charge cycle mine was below 80% I had a crappy speaker so get a new phone under apple care anyways.

 

[Mother Nature]

Can't wait for emulators to be available in alternative app stores! They should just allow side-loading.
How does one in the Americas access EU alternative app stores?
I have a japanese app store account from when I lived there.... So I imagine just using a VPN I can access EU alt app stores?

No, it will determine your location based on your carrier information.
Also, if you live or happen to be in the EU and leave for a prolonged time, some features will be disabled and existing apps from alternative marketplaces will not be updated.

 

[hans1972]

Can't wait for emulators to be available in alternative app stores! They should just allow side-loading.
How does one in the Americas access EU alternative app stores?
I have a japanese app store account from when I lived there.... So I imagine just using a VPN I can access EU alt app stores?

Your physical location will be checked.

 

[hoodafoo]

This:

So is the answer "brown square"?

 

[bigjnyc]

so only the iphone 15/pro can show the battery cycles, sorry sir, BULLSH.. i dont think so,

The 14 Pro doesn't have enough processing power to calculate cycle count as accurately as necessary to meet our standards.... Please upgrade to the 15 pro if you would like to have this feature.......... please

-Apple

 

[hans1972]

that is so petty. then again, i'd expect people to defend apple , showing the deepness of their stockholm syndrom and the way the chose to solve their cognitive dissonance . fabulous, truly.

We defend Apple because we don't want most of what the DMA brings. Everything Apple can do to keep iOS and the App Store the way it was before is a good thing.