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Hopefully so. I want to try out FaceTime on the Apple TV.

Speaking of that, is the little stand they used during the TVOS presentation at the WWDC the MagSafe Belkin one they sell for monitors? I want to get a little stand like the one they showed in the presentation.

No idea about the stand, I want to test out the new VPN feature.
 
I wish Apple Maps would update its routing in Vancouver BC, or Canada. Maps regularly tells me to U-turn when the street sign specifically says No U-turn!!

One time it took me to a street that didn’t even exist. I had to turn around and find my own way out.
 
Functions, functions, functions. Apple's iOS was once known for its tremendous simplicity. There was a golden rule: focus on 80% of the features, but make those features solid and easy to use.

But Tim never got that, and needed new features every year to sell more and more, while scrapping the simplicity of iOS.

The features Apple wants to sell should be outsourced to apps without touching the core functionality.

But Tim never understood that.

Tim understands just fine and Apple's massive success while he's been CEO is testament to that.

I'm looking forward to some of the new features/functions. The nice thing about them, and you may find this very shocking, is that you can simply ignore them if you find them upsetting.

Life goes on...
 
Honestly, I told myself I would never update day 1 again after iOS 16, but if anything I want to update for the adaptive transparency mode on AirPods Pro 2. Standby and Interactive widgets are cool too, but I might hold off for a few days. We'll see though tomorrow. :/
 
When I've had to /decided do it, it is so nice when setting up fresh. Everything 'feels' as though you're not carrying old cached data and obsolete elements (but that's probably more imagined than tangible).

I agree that the re-downloading of apps is a pain – although perhaps equalled by the way I've had to nudge loads of apps into actually downloading/installing after a restore (the icons appear greyed out, even though they should be automatically downloading).

I like that with the 'set up as new' method, you see all the smaller tweaks and 'onboarding' Apple have implemented to help introduce new features – some of this seems to be missed with an upgrade and I wonder if that contributes to confusion for less detail obsessed users.

Keeping the old phone in it's current state could one day allow you to charge a premium, if there's a controversial iOS change in a new release, or in an app (thinking Twitter > X), and someone wants a preserved version!
that’s all true. you nailed it with the onboarding and small tweaks.

I worked at an Apple Store for several years and I genuinely liked seeing how the setup process evolved each year on each major device. there are definitely things/settings that get overlooked when restoring from a backup.

starting fresh also is a way to be more organized and not bring over apps that weren’t used much.

I’m also the type that goes through literally each setting on a new device / new software because I want to know what’s possible and what I can customize.

never gets old!
 
The autocorrection and map improvements look very useful and enticing. I can hardly wait until the 17.1 update do I would feel safe & secure about installing the update.
 
Standby Mode has me thinking about buying a Magsafe stand again...

For those who have and use one, do you like it? Was it worth the high cost they seem to have? What kind did you buy? And does anyone know what stand Apple is showing in their promotional material for Standby Mode?
I just bought the ESR 3-in-1 stand from Amazon last week that someone also recommended to you in their reply. I like the fact that if I’m not using the Qi charger on the bottom of the stand, there are no lights on on the stand while just my phone and watch are charging. That makes it great for the nightstand.

One unexpected feature of standby mode is that, similar to the watch, I just have to cause the phone to move slightly while it’s charging in landscape mode for it to light up (i.e. if i tap on the side of the phone, it also lights up).
 
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I almost want to buy the Belkin Magsafe stand, Apple charger, and Airpod Charging stand from Costco for $99.97. Nobody bought them at $150 or whatever the ridiculous MSRP was. I still don't know if I can spend $100 on another charger just to stare at the new standby feature, but may bite if the charger goes to a .00 price (like $70.00).
 
I'm thinking about doing a clean install when I update. I know there's some debate as to whether it makes a difference or not.

I don't have a mac, or a PC that I can use to restore through iTunes, so will use a current iCloud backup. My question is, would I have to upgrade to iOS 17 before going through the erase settings process, or will it just install 17 when I set up the phone and then I can restore from my backup?
 
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