iOS 18: These Apple Intelligence Features Won't Be Ready Until 2025

[Chungry]

thats my thing- temper expectations. Dont overpromise (Airpower) keep it low key. But there is this institutional need to make a press splash. The keynote should have framed this as a preview of whats to come over the year. And hammered that home repeatedly. We're working on it and think its gonna be great or something like that. Throw a dedicated launch event full of all the stuff they should have held back till closer to the go-live (basically all the AI stuff) and THAT is when you make the splash. I'm no marketing genius but the WWDC event was a mistake.

 

[jdclifford]

Each year Apple gets better at “over promising and under delivering”. Pretty soon we’ll be reading about new features coming with the iPhone 20. Even the IOS18 and MacOS 15 betas released last week have minimal changes over the current released versions of IOS 17 and MacOS 14. A couple of bells and whistles so far, that’s it ASAIK. Disappointing.

 

[TwoBytes]

No reason to buy the iPhone 16 unless you want a camera upgrade then, as by the time these features come out, it will be the next WWDC 2025, and they will JUST be working on the bugs!

 

[rwilliams]

The delay is not a huge deal for me, but it does help me with the decision of whether to get rid of my 14 Pro Max and upgrade this fall.

 

[Chungry]

I'm on the fence- I have a 13 pro max and testing out a pixel just to see what the differences are. I'll replace the battery in the 13 and give all this AI nonsense a couple years to settle out before I make any big hardware purchases. Luckily time is on my side

 

[macfacts]

Yep - amazing what you can do when you dismiss concerns like privacy, security, copyrights, trademarks, data ownership, or how NOT to monetize every aspect of a tool.

Google gave away google voice and used that to learn how people talk and now have near perfect voice dictation, they have voice transcription of every YouTube video now. Apple did stock buy backs and now it is the most valuable company, great for shareholders like Tim Cook, not so great for apple customers. The immature die hard apple fans still talk about lag in android but it seems apple has copied that too but added their own twist to it, it isn't animation lag but feature lag. What is the apple premium price paying for?

 

[Razorpit]

When *I* stumble over words?

It's *Siri* that stumbles over words!

It's that Apple's line now, that I've been the one messing up all along?

I talk to it slowly, enunciating every word, like I'm teaching a foreign language, and it is getting worse and worse at understanding as time goes on.

The voice control system they had for placing calls even prior to Siri worked better than this.

I won't doxx names but the person I call most often hands-free is constantly switched last second to calling another person with a COMPLETELY different name that sounds nothing alike. I can even see that it transcribes it correctly, and then last second, let's wildcard it! Let's call some random person you haven't spoken to in 20 years for the hell of it! And I have to rush to hit end before the call goes through. If sometimes even tries calling me! It picks my contact card to call.

They should have no aspirations other than getting it to do what they said it was supposed do 14 years ago.

I feel your pain. Siri forgets who my wife is weeks at a time, then suddenly starts remembering again all on her own. Maybe if I started using Silicon Valley approved terms such as "spouse" or "partner" thing would work consistently/reliably. 🤷‍♂️

 

[Mother Nature]

It's not a matter of lazy software development. I'm sure Apple realized that all these AI enhancements and advancement "perform" poorly on even their state of the art iPhone 15 Pro (Max) and a new silicon is needed to better take advantage of it.

How convenient. This will start the great "fragmentation", something that Android went through long time ago - didnt end well.

It's not any fragmentation, there is not any smartphone that can run a full LLM on-device entirely. That's why Google is developing a "nano" version of their Gemini AI and only for Pixel 8 Pro, Galaxy S24 U (which I currently own) has a hybrid LLM, only the light stuff can be processed on device, the rest uses Google's Gemini and therefore require a data connection.

Apple's approach is to make their LLM as efficient as possible that it can be executed on device exclusively, so it's not any fragmentation.

 

[one more]

Just what I have expected, by the time it is up and running properly we will be getting close to iPhone 17 release. 👌

I miss Steve, the man had real vision and passion for his products!

 

[Chungry]

Google gave away google voice and used that to learn how people talk and now have near perfect voice dictation, they have voice transcription of every YouTube video now. Apple did stock buy backs and now it is the most valuable company, great for shareholders like Tim Cook, not so great for apple customers. The immature die hard apple fans still talk about lag in android but it seems apple has copied that too but added their own twist to it, it isn't animation lag but feature lag.

funny enough I don't see any lag on the pixel I'm testing. But I think it was a thing for so long that folks just hammer away about it out of ignorance. I just want every hardware maker firing on all cylinders and making excellent hardware and software -a rising tide raises all boats. And clearly, Apple needs the competition because look at the iOS 18 features we are finally getting. I want the features and polish war to heat up and force everyone to bring their A game

 

[Razorpit]

Just what I have expected, by the time it is up and running properly we will be getting close to iPhone 17 release. 👌

AND you want to bet you will need iPhone 17 to take full advantage of some of those features? 😉

 

[NVDA]

Time for AAPL to give back all of those gains since the event

 

[macfacts]

Time for AAPL to give back all of those gains since the event

You can still sell your shares but you better do it before everyone else.

 

[Unami]

So don't rush out and get a 15 pro or 16 in autumn for the AI updates. Until all of them work (even more so: internationally) and most bugs are ironed out, you'll probably need more than 8GB of RAM, a.k.a. an iPhone 18.

I'd also expect features to get pulled and delayed as soon as the first mischieveous guy figures out how to cheat it into creating AI-porn.

 

[TechWhisperer]

So, basically, in other words, if you have an iPhone 14 Pro, you won't feel FOMO because the actually significant features of AI won't be implemented until 2025. Got it.

Yeah most probably 2026/27. Just sit back, relax and enjoy the 💩 show. No need to upgrade.

 

[DMG35]

So what will you do?

Switch to Windows AI PCs and Android? Completely switch ecosystem?

You’re missing the point. My point was that people will say “Oh Apple is late because they want to get it right.” No, Apple is late because they are behind and Apple Intelligence will be riddled with bugs upon release.

 

[one more]

AND you want to bet you will need iPhone 17 to take full advantage of some of those features? 😉

No bets, I just hope iPhone 17 will have enough RAM to crunch it all properly. 😉

Jokes aside, I will be curious to see how this whole AI business works for people over the next year. It can go in any direction - the good, the bad and the ugly. 🖐️

 

[SmugMaverick]

🤣

This is truly embarrassing, we knew they were behind in everything but to be this late and basically show us vapour ware is hilarious.

Remember Jon prossers video shilling over this AI like it was christ reborn 😂

No wonder no one in the media kicked up a fuss about the lack of support for AI on iPhone 15 or older, they knew it was never coming this year or possibly even next year either.

Apple NEED new blood, Jeff Williams and Cregg are not the people to be in charge of hardware and software design.

 

[jeremz1ne]

only thing im really looking forward to is the image generation.. i wanna see how well it will remove people among other things from a photo... and it it'll bring down the picture quality.. only thing im really looking forward too.. the rest i can wait for no big rush

 

[Chungry]

So don't rush out and get a 15 pro or 16 in autumn for the AI updates. Until all of them work (even more so: internationally) and most bugs are ironed out, you'll probably need more than 8GB of RAM, a.k.a. an iPhone 18.

I'd also expect features to get pulled and delayed as soon as the first mischieveous guy figures out how to cheat it into creating AI-porn.

I read that as "until most bugs are ignored" which is also accurate haha

 

[siddavis]

Other languages in 2026?? What about HomePod, Apple TV and Watch?

This is a big question for me too. There was no mention of how these abilities would impact HomePod functionality which relies almost exclusively on Siri being robust. I just got one, so I was really hoping there would be game changing features for HomePod.

 

[uacd]

Apple Intelligence features will initially only support American English

English (UK) *sips tea*:
Am I joke to you bunch of wan**rs??!

 

[CasinoOwl]

The teeth gnashing over waiting a couple of months (iOS 18 comes out in the fall to begin with)…

Maybe I’m just getting older but this place, likely because the whole internet is going this way, is becoming a pit of negativity and “hot takes” that do not line up with reality at all.

I likely won’t use AI for several years until I move on from my 13 mini. That said, I have a tremendous respect for what Apple has done with Private Cloud Compute and on-device models. This is *going* to be a major product differentiator for the Apple ecosystem that no other Silicon Valley company’s *business models* will be able to match for at least several years.

Apple is going to take the time to roll it out properly? Boo hoo.

I'm old enough to remember when Mac forums were occupied with Mac fans. Now they are half Apple-hating trolls. In any case, I agree with your take. Anyone who has followed Apple for a number of years knows they don't try to be first. They try to be best. I can wait some extra months for the features when they are right. Google and Microsoft have rushed their products to market and have faced many embarrassments. Apple doesn't do that. (Except for Siri... I will never defend how bad Siri has been... lol).

 

[hans1972]

Apple should've listened to people complaining that Siri sucks. As soon as they got wind of ChatGPT they should've been building AI like everyone else. Seems they only waited until recently to take it seriously.

It's only 1.5 years since ChatGPT became public.

Very few companies are building large LLMs and stable diffusion models from scratch. It's not something everyone is doing.

 

[anakin44011]

Don't want. Won't use. Get it off my phone. I have never ever once in my life used Siri and now this seems like I will have no choice but to use it because it's just going to be part of the OS. Just leave me alone with all of this. I'm getting closer and closer to flat out disconnecting and going back to a flip phone. Life was so much easier back then.

...until you discover that you can't even buy tickets to a show, concert, or sporting event (including high school football games) without a smartphone.

A Brave New World indeed....