iOS 19 Expected to Run on These iPhones

[Big_D]

That's a pretty long list of supported devices. I normally don't expect to see quite that many, so this is a good thing.

Only because they list the Max and Plus variants separately...

But it is still impressive that they go so far back.

 

[Godspeed8230]

Only because they list the Max and Plus variants separately...

But it is still impressive that they go so far back.

Definitely, I will keep my iPhone SE2020 for as long as I can. It is such a great device and I am kind of sad that there isn't really a successor to it.

 

[Big_D]

RCS was the only interesting thing about iOS 18.

I have 2 people I use SMS with, now RCS, everybody else uses Signal or WhatsApp, so it pretty much passed by unnoticed. We only got AI this morning, with the 18.4 update, so I'll be interested to see what that brings.

I tried Image Playground quickly, but it just said "language not supported" (I entered a prompt in English and in German, both times it rejected it as unsupported).

 

[Big_D]

Definitely, I will keep my iPhone SE2020 for as long as I can. It is such a great device and I am kind of sad that there isn't really a successor to it.

Yes, many of our users prefer the SE. They have private phones which are big and just want the SE to not get in the way, they only need it for calls and emails, generally, when they are out of the office.

 

[Aslak3]

Looks like our 13's will have a couple of more good years.

My 13 mini is creeping down that list though…. 🙁

 

[Aslak3]

My XS Max is still running just fine. The battery is a bit degraded but still gets me through the day. Personally I wouldn't upgrade just for the OS but have been thinking of upgrading for the satellite communications as I do a fair amount of backpacking in areas with no cell signal.

It’s the security aspect that can’t be overlooked. For instance an iPhone 7, today, can be owned by someone just viewing a website with a specially crafted image on it. CVE-2022-42795. Unfortunately those nice old phones m shouldn’t used once they are not getting updates. It’s sad, but this beloved 13 mini will have to go in a drawer the day it stops getting updates.

 

[MacFarmer]

my XS running great so far, wont be missing new iOS. The main feature, passwords app works, and I'm glad about that. I know they might break it with new MacOS releases, but I'm not updating to those as well 🙂

 

[JapanApple]

This was obvious without the leaker. everyone assumed this was going to happen.

 

[headlessmike]

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Someone’s iPhone 11 updating to iOS 19

iOS 18 is great on the iPhone XS/R and 11, so I'm optimistic about 19 running well on my iPhone 11. I haven't felt any version of iOS struggle on older hardware since the iPhone 6 era.

 

[Moukee]

What were you using prior? iPhone 2G?

Some carriers dropped 3G many years ago, so any iPhone older than the 5 would have fallen back to 2G even though they're 3G capable.

 

[headlessmike]

Dark mode icons, Better Calculator app, Dynamic iOS 18, Auto math solving in notes: All cry in the corner

Or my favorite feature, bilingual keyboard support!

Other nice features are the customizable control center, lockable apps, vehicle motion cues, passwords app.

 

[hagar]

Funny to list AI as an advanced feature. I wouldn’t call Image Playground or generated emojis advanced. Even the writing tools are hardly advanced.

 

[ksec]

Every single time they made new UI, it is full bugs, not enough polish, and performance degradation, it takes another version for performance optimisation and then another for all the polish and bug fixing.

And it is the same old tactics. Making sure everyone update to iOS 19 on iPhone 11 to 13 or may be 14. Only to realise iOS 19 isn't optimised for any of these devices. Making the daily nudge to user may be they should upgrade to 17 just to enjoy newer iOS.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

Definitely, I will keep my iPhone SE2020 for as long as I can. It is such a great device and I am kind of sad that there isn't really a successor to it.

The SE2022 is the successor. I have one as a company-issued phone and it still does great!

 

[frou]

I suspect the rumoured "glassy" redesign of iOS will be noticeably more graphically intensive, so was thinking I may not update to iOS 19 on my XS even if it is supported. There are already some hitches and delays when using iOS 18 on it.

 

[Nudelpalm]

I’m just happy to see that while prices of phones increase, they also get new iOS-releases for a long time. Makes the yearly cost of the phone go down significantly, and since my 14PM is still snappy and working fine I’ll hang on to it a few more years.

God damn I sound like an old fart 😀

 

[padams35]

I don't believe it. iOS updates usually have some sort of hardware requirement milestone logic but there is too much A12/A13 commonality for a requirement bump not to take both.

Both the A12 (XS/XR) and A13 (11/SE2nd) generations have: 8-core neural engines, 3-4GB RAM, and Intel XMM modems. It has been two years since the last requirement bump. Apple could bump the requirements by two generations.

Unless Apple feels obligated to give the iPhone SE2nd (April 2020) another year of support? But then why not give A12 another year of support?

 

[klasma]

Wondering what iOS version the iPhone 17 will run, not on the list. 😛

Maybe they wnat to start aligning the numbers and it will only support iOS 17.

 

[AndiG]

Question remains - do I WANT iOS 19 at all?

 

[cicalinarrot]

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Question remains - do I WANT iOS 19 at all?

Not if they don't improve the Wanther and the Garviers.

 

[Astuces iOS]

What is the justification? Which features will justify not supporting XS and XR?

Apple needs to sell more iPhone with no software justification.

Crazy new UI... with crazy animations !

 

[ricketysquire]

I don’t get excited about iOS updates. It always looks the same as the previous version and I don’t use 90% of the features anyway. I only use my iPhone for internet, email and a few apps.

This. Im tired of the updates. Im tired of the new releases. This absurd, we don't need to constantly push new code, we don't need new features, new releases. We need stability, security and bug fixes. These are mature products, and they are critical for people's lives. It's not a joke, we don't need them to constantly be breaking things just for the sake of being able to say "we have X now" at WWDC.

Technology should improve peoples lives not over take it.

And don't even get me started on them dropping support for the XR and XS. Perfectly functioning devices, and I know Apple provides security updates for a limited time after dropping support, but we're essentially relying on their good will. I wish they'd be consistent or something. At least say "We guarantee security patches for 2 years and then 1 year of critical security fixes only". Like back in the good old days, companies used to provide EOL notices and timeframes so that if you bought something for your business, you'd know how long the vendor supports it.

 

[Stuwil]

Again interesting to see iPad A12/3GB supports iPadOS 19. But A12/4GB on iPhone won't run iOS 19.

Because in doing that it’s more likely to get that person to upgrade to a new iPhone

 

[Stuwil]

That’s more than most android phones get. Not to shocking. Apple always takes care of their devices for long term support.

And unlike Android, we all pretty much get the updates at the same time

Yes but there are different factors involved in the software updates for android

Like why would a lot of android OEM’s offer 7 years of software updates how are they going to make money unless it’s Samsung or pixel

That’s because when Apple releases an update it’s one company pushing that out to everyone unless it’s the pixel line

 

[polaris20]

I just re-battery'd an 11 for my Dad last fall, and he's loving it. He doesn't really care about all the bells/whistles, and gets along fine with it. Glad to see Apple to continue supporting it!