iOS 5 to Finally Deliver Over-The-Air Updates?

[iPhonedHome]

Hey Apple, way to leave your initial customers with AT&T in the dark. Great thinking! Why would they implement this with Verizon before AT&T? How about just do it at the same time!

Dumb!

 

[Rootus]

Blow through your data cap with 650MB downloads for every point update? Not happening until Apple can deliver smaller downloads for updates.

If I have to wait for the carriers to approve this functionality because of bandwidth concerns, then it better not count against my usage.

/though I'm on an unlimited plan
//but still

 

[dlewis23]

Blow through your data cap with 650MB downloads for every point update? Not happening until Apple can deliver smaller downloads for updates.

No, it would have to not count against your cap. If it did count 1 update would put people over who are on the 200 MB AT&T data plan.

 

[xxBURT0Nxx]

Haha, yes... When I typed my reply above, I didn't even consider 3G. Come on guys... LOL

This will obviously be intended for WLAN's. Apple doesn't even do *FaceTime* over 3G.

Seriously lol at all the people who think it'll be over 3G and such.

They won't even let you download any app over 10MB over 3G, you think theyll let you do a 600MB+ update?

This is a welcome feature, frees up a USB port on my laptop and is very convenient 😀

umm did you guys even read the article? if apple was going to do it over wi-fi only why in the world would they ever need to negotiate with verizon? They wouldn't... 🙄

😀Seems a quite big deal~
Hope it won't be slower than now!

well downloading an OTA update certainly isn't going to be faster than downloading it on your home network...

Hey Apple, way to leave your initial customers with AT&T in the dark. Great thinking! Why would they implement this with Verizon before AT&T? How about just do it at the same time!

Dumb!

how do you know att customers won't get the same feature... article makes no mention of it?

 

[bmwhd]

Don't underestimate the attraction of making this work for the phone companies - Patching the iOS today requires a series of user actions often deemed tedious by the masses that don't read forums like this. My wife for example. She uses her iPhone solely as a phone and thus it doesn't get connected to iTunes unless I take the time to do it. This frustrates ATT/VZW as they want to close 'security' holes or turn on/off features at their discretion, not ours.

 

[jroadley]

Pretty sure Apple are smart enough to send a few meg for the update rather than the rubbish way they update at the moment.

 

[chris975d]

AT&T already does ota updates for Android phones.
The update notice tells you that the download will begin once you connect to wifi.
Keeps you from blowing through your data plan.
Makes sense that they would do it for the iPhone too.

I was going to say this as well. It's how my Android phones have always been (with AT&T). Don't know why Apple can't utilize the same method (notification of update, and tell user to connect to wifi to complete update) for my iPhones.

 

[Primejimbo]

Verizon is unlimited data...

For now it's unlimited, who said it will last?

 

[darbus69]

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and waste data? i dont know...how useful is this...really?

You'd be able to update over Wifi too, of course.

others may find it useful, but why would one need to update on the go?

If you are away from your Mac that you sync with for an extended period of time.

I can't wait for this. Call me lazy, but I'm two small updates behind because I can't be bothered to sync my iPhone for fixes that don't affect me.

I'm hoping for wireless syncing with iTunes as well. The less I have to connect via a cable, the better.

what, you must never be at home and you must never sleep? you are an amazing human, humanoid???...jk...really people, for such a complex, albeit small package, a wired backup and update is just apple's way of ensuring quality. that being said, hurry up and bring on wireless syncing-what's the hold up!

 

[Bonds79]

This is complete bullcrap, people. Over the air updates will come, but over WiFi. Doing this over 3G makes no sense.

DROIDs already do all updates over 3G and VZW likes it that way.
So if VZW is involved they will opt for updates over 3G
This may mean that VZW will be keeping unlimited data on the iphone, and may have changed their minds about ending unlimited data when it comes to the iphone. I think VZW has noticed that having unlimited data makes them more attractive when competing against ATT+T-mobile merger super company.

 

[Bonds79]

For now it's unlimited, who said it will last?

ATT fanboys always say "For now it's unlimited" as if VZW will really get rid o f unlimited since ATT + T-Mobile announced the merger.
ATT Fanboys are really hoping for VZW to end unlimited.


VZW is going to be the biggest phone company anymore, I bet they don't get rid of unlimited data for a long time. VZW needs to stay competitive as they are not going to be the biggest company anymore....................

 

[goobot]

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This is complete bullcrap, people. Over the air updates will come, but over WiFi. Doing this over 3G makes no sense.

DROIDs already do all updates over 3G and VZW likes it that way.
So if VZW is involved they will opt for updates over 3G
This may mean that VZW will be keeping unlimited data on the iphone, and may have changed their minds about ending unlimited data when it comes to the iphone. I think VZW has noticed that having unlimited data makes them more attractive when competing against ATT+T-mobile merger super company.

Is that why AT&T sold a lot more iPhones that vz last quarter?

Also vz just wants you to go over your cap. More money for them

 

[goobot]

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For now it's unlimited, who said it will last?

ATT fanboys always say "For now it's unlimited" as if VZW will really get rid o f unlimited since ATT + T-Mobile announced the merger.
ATT Fanboys are really hoping for VZW to end unlimited.


VZW is going to be the biggest phone company anymore, I bet they don't get rid of unlimited data for a long time. VZW needs to stay competitive as they are not going to be the biggest company anymore....................

Lol, I'm pretty sure they said they are going to caps, jut cause you don't like it dont blame form members.

 

[discounteggroll]

why not attempt over-the-WiFi updates? friendly relationship between apple & ATT would remain

 

[Bonds79]

This would absolutely stink over Verizon.

1. SLOW network

2. If a voice call comes in, I lose my data session and I have to start over!

Droid updates come in just fine over 3G, plus i feel the VZW version of the iphone 5 will infact be LTE since the iphone 5 is now delayed!
In you case, Enjoy att tiered data and if you are on att unlimited data, try an use alot of data then att will claim you are tethering and automatically switch you to tiered data.

VZW has not done any of this!

 

[ChazUK]

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Small, incremental updates would be good. They are a godsend on Android.

 

[xxBURT0Nxx]

ATT fanboys always say "For now it's unlimited" as if VZW will really get rid o f unlimited since ATT + T-Mobile announced the merger.
ATT Fanboys are really hoping for VZW to end unlimited.


VZW is going to be the biggest phone company anymore, I bet they don't get rid of unlimited data for a long time. VZW needs to stay competitive as they are not going to be the biggest company anymore....................

well considering the CFO of verizon said the unlimited data plans were not a long term solution, yeah it's pretty feasible to think that they won't keep it around forever.

Current switchers can grab the $30 per month unlimited data plan for their iPhone 4, but that could all change shortly. The offering, which Shammo said was "not a long-term solution," was likely just a marketing tool to entice the first wave of iPhone users to jump from AT&T, which currently does not offer an unlimited data plan.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20037878-233.html#ixzz1LUNQ3O00

Droid updates come in just fine over 3G, plus i feel the VZW version of the iphone 5 will infact be LTE since the iphone 5 is now delayed!
In you case, Enjoy att tiered data and if you are on att unlimited data, try an use alot of data then att will claim you are tethering and automatically switch you to tiered data.

VZW has not done any of this!

yeah, but those droid updates are not 600mb - 1gb in size..

 

[Bonds79]

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Is that why AT&T sold a lot more iPhones that vz last quarter?

Also vz just wants you to go over your cap. More money for them

Check VZW site, VZW charges no overage charges, data is unlimited. no caps no overage charges just unlimited data. WHAT DON'T you understand.
And the VZW throttling post on BGR.com was just a BS warning, NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN THROTTLED! Go the androidforums and you will not find anyone that have ever been throttled!

Now with att try and use alot of data then att will claim you are tethering and automatically switch you to tiered data.

after 2GB , att charges 10 a GB. that can get expensive fast!

 

[Bonds79]

well considering the CFO of verizon said the unlimited data plans were not a long term solution, yeah it's pretty feasible to think that they won't keep it around forever.



http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20037878-233.html#ixzz1LUNQ3O00



yeah, but those droid updates are not 600mb - 1gb in size..

That was BEFORE THE T-mobile + ATT merger was announced! WHEN VZW was the largest cell company.

I have a feeling VZW will reverse it's stance and keep unlimited data longer than expected to stay competitive against T-mobile + ATT.
Now with the merger coming , VZW will have to stay competitive, unlimited data makes them more attractive against the ATT + T-Mobile super company.

 

[xxBURT0Nxx]

That was BEFORE THE T-mobile + ATT merger was announced! WHEN VZW was the largest cell company.

I have a feeling VZW will reverse it's stance and keep unlimited data longer than expected to stay competitive against T-mobile + ATT.
Now with the merger coming , VZW will have to stay competitive, unlimited data makes them more attractive against the ATT + T-Mobile super company.

maybe, maybe not... that's just your opinion on what may happen, not a fact.

 

[GooMan]

I'm probably in the minority (that's OK) but it doesn't bother me at all to connect my iPhone to my laptop to update it.

 

[kenypowa]

LOL @ Apple AT&T fanboys VS Apple Verizon fanboys.

But seriously, Android has been updated OTA since its inception. Welcome to 2008, iPhone.

 

[JAT]

But don't they manage patches with Mac OS X all the time... ? And Mac OS X has much more of the OS exposed and accessible to the user (more to be tinkered with).

There is a common issue where the OSX patches don't work right, and people's answer is always to go get the Combo Upgrade and use that instead. Many people just start at the Combo these days. I'm always willing to cope with a larger download if it makes things easier later. Even when I was on 1.5Mbps connection, I'd just let the download run while I sleep.

Personally, I'm fine with plugging my phone into my dock. (which is also a USB hub, for those worried about # of ports) It's almost as easy as setting it on a table, so I don't really care about wifi updates. I'd rather charge while downloading large files instead of burning battery.

It's fine for those that can't be bothered with a wired setup, or have only a laptop, I guess.

 

[xxBURT0Nxx]

LOL @ Apple AT&T fanboys VS Apple Verizon fanboys.

But seriously, Android has been updated OTA since its inception. Welcome to 2008, iPhone.

android updates are also not 600+mb in size

not saying that apple has to have you redownload the entire OS every time there is an update (presumably for stability purposes), but that is how they do it now, and 600+mb files are definitely a problem when you are talking about OTA.

 

[JAT]

well considering the CFO of verizon said the unlimited data plans were not a long term solution, yeah it's pretty feasible to think that they won't keep it around forever.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20037878-233.html#ixzz1LUNQ3O00

So...are you on VZW? Do you actually have a care in this matter, or is it just another way to rant on others?

AT&T still has people on $30 unlimited because they are grandfathered in. So will VZW, if they actually change the plans.