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You're not forced to enable automatic over-the-air updates. Why enable it if you don't want the update? Sounds like a problem that demands the "world's smallest violin" to play.

Agreed and besides the whiners claiming they've given iOS 7 a fair chance are full of crap! It's only been public a little over a week and improvements are still ongoing! Come whine after 2-4 months also whiners need to realize like it or not tech in general is always advancing!

Eventually things get to a point where an update needs to be forced be it smart cards/passes on public transit, windows OS old enough our grandparents used, the internet etc.

Progress happens like it or not! Hell even those old folgies on iOS 1 thru 5 will eventually like be forced to update or get new devices when their equipment someday ceases working properly in 1 regard or another

Hell there's already been talk that eventually a vast majority of iOS 5 or lower apps will cease having support or working altogether with most be iOS 6 or newer only or iOS 7 and newer only

Clinging to outdated things isn't going to magically change the fact they're obsolete , stop progress from happening or magically make the outdated no longer outdated! Change and progress happen with all things in life so accept it, embrace it, deal with it and move on!
 
Out of interest, tested by who?

There have been various tests out there by YouTubers, devs, independents etc.

We tests and compared several times durring and after the Beta process before upgrading all our 3GS 4 and 4S devices to 5C or 5S now all our company phones are 5 or newer
 
Bit of a moronic thing to say.

How about the fact that some people on 4 and 4s are having issues installing the OS and then if it does, its buggy. Perhaps some people don't want to update the OS for this reason and also can't afford/don't want to hand over approx $750 to upgrade the handset.

It might not be moronic but your comment is narrow minded $750 is not the set in stone cost! Depending on which device, and storage options you seek plus things like carrier, contact/no contract etc you could get a newer device anywhere from free to 10 grand ( if you're crazy rich and desperate for a gold 5S off the internet ) but the avrg is Free to $900

Also there can be options to trade in or sell old iOS devices towards newer an option we opted for getting an average of $100 to $240 per each device towards the new ones in some cases getting free phones + a wireless bill credit to boot
 
Upgraded the iphone4 from my mother and now its ALOT slower than before.
luckily she doesn't notice it.

iphone5 still feels as snappy as before. not sure how the iphone5s could feel any faster.

Trust us the 5S definitely feels faster

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Is there any such thing as a "mission critical app" on an iPad?

Not really even the apps we rely on for our work whilst blah and out of place still function marginally well on all iOS devices running 7.0 - 7.0.2

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Agreed

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I can't help wondering when Apple talk about record-breaking iOS7 adoption rates whether they mean actual installations or just downloads. Hardly surprising the numbers are so high in such a short time if they're forcing it onto people. Even if they're referring to installations, I'm sure there's people who were happy on iOS6 until one of those boxes they always just click "OK" on popped up in the middle of their game of Angry Birds, or who will now be upgrading against their will just to get their 3GB back.


Likely actuall installs based on diagnostics + stats collected by sites or apps that track what iOS versions are accessing them
 
Is there any such thing as a "mission critical app" on an iPad?

Why not?

I've seen movement towards replacing $3,000 Motorola computer gear in squad cars, fire truck and ambulance with iPads. Is that critical enough for you?
 
Is there any such thing as a "mission critical app" on an iPad?

From the current front page of this site...

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Aaaaand ... here we go again: People seeing invisible "disable automatic update download" buttons in their iDevice settings. (At least concerning the wasted 750 MB space – as to the additional necessary space for installing, you may be correct.)

Wait what?

I'm saying people are forgetting they can update through iTunes rather than OTA.
 
You CAN'T disable auto download of the installer. (For difference "automatic download" - "automatic installation", please see above.)

And: Erase and restore - yes, THAT'S the solution. To then have to install iOS 7 you don't want and which was the reason you've erased and restored your iDevice in the first place? Or to install iOS 6 again and have the unwanted iOS 7 installer automatically downloaded soon again on your iDevice?

Problem solved, indeed. :rolleyes:

I never had updates auto-download so I'm not sure what the problem is :rolleyes:
 
I never had updates auto-download so I'm not sure what the problem is :rolleyes:

I'm sorry, I didn't know that. In this case, all the others who indeed have this problem are just crackpots seeing things, of course. Which means that your "solution" to this non-existent case was right. Sorry again.
 
If you're going to update via iTunes, wouldn't it not matter anymore? Your iDevice doesn't need that extra space to unpack and install.

The main problem discussed here is that we have cases of iDevices we don't want to upgrade to iOS 7, but don't want to have at least 750 MB wasted for an installer package automatically loaded on our device we can't delete, but also don't intend to use. (or even 3GB, if the installer package already "locks" additional free space in advance for installing - don't know about that.)
 
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This is the question I have. Has something changed with iOS 7? Or is the media once again outraged by something that has previously existed? IOS 7 didn't just magically install on my phone. I had to accept terms and conditions before the install started.

I'm wondering if this is just a myth created by some competitors to get people either upset, or maybe to turn off their phones (fewer phones registering on the world wide webs??)... Who knows, My wife and I have the 4s.. I manually updated mine, which required me to accept the terms before the download started (if I remember correctly). My wife's has still not gotten an "Auto" upload. :confused:
 
If you're going to update via iTunes, wouldn't it not matter anymore? Your iDevice doesn't need that extra space to unpack and install.

Okay, maybe you are responding to something mid-thread and not the article. Crossed wires perhaps.

The main thread concerns people who do not want to update but find themselves storing up to 3GB of data they couldn't refuse, and now can't delete. Several posters claim there's some feature that can be turned off, but several more, including me, cannot find any such thing on the phone.
 
The main problem discussed here is that we have cases of iDevices we don't want to upgrade to iOS 7, but don't want to have at least 750 MB wasted for an installer package on our device we can't delete and won't use. (or even 3GB, if the installer package already "locks" additional free space in advance for installing - don't know about that.)

Gotcha. I didn't realize people actually didn't want to update to it. I thought the space was the only issue here. Apologies!
 
They were most definetly stolen or copied depending on your preference of words. Apple in its ever so clever manipulation of "facts" would deny that they also borrowed much of their notification panel / control panel improvements from Android & Samsung. It's a great case of corporate "borrowing". At least Tim Cook is adult in his behavior, never losing his cool... Unlike like Steve Jobs threats to "go thermonuclear" a clear effort to incite his worshipers into backing him. :)

To be fair, this "stealing" is a bit like: Apple invented the car - Android copied the whole car and adds a nice indicator - Apple copies the new indicator. Okay in my books ... ;)

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Gotcha. I didn't realize people actually didn't want to update to it. I thought the space was the only issue here. Apologies!

No apologies necessary. Always nice to see somebody actually READING what's written here - there are others who still are ignorant enough not realizing what is discussed even after having explained it several times... :)
 
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The other thing that hasn't been mentioned is developers who have to keep the old version of iOS around for testing.

I've got an iPhone 4 and an iPad 2 here that I need to keep on iOS 6 to maintain compatibility in my apps. Both of them have automatically downloaded iOS 7. If these devices are auto-upgraded, or I accidentally tap on the update alert, I'm kinda stuck for ensuring compatibility, since not even developers can downgrade.

Since they are for testing it should be cake to do an onboard erase, set up as new and put them in airplane mode when you aren't using them so they can download anything. That's how I keep my testing gear
 
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