Maybe in opposite world.. iOS 5 was meh at best
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Yeah who needs apps. ios 1 for life!! lol
You've no clue what you're missing! There's a crap ton of awesome or useful apps out there
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Maybe in opposite world.. iOS 5 was meh at best
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You've no clue what you're missing! There's a crap ton of awesome or useful apps out there
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Ah I see- Andrea D.
Not having a brand new car with all the advances is also a safety risk...are you going to force everyone to buy a new car suddenly?
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Wow...it almost sounds like you didn't read the article and yet had the urge to post something (as irrelevant and pointlessly insulting as it was). I bet you won't even be able to fully understand this either.
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It's nice to think, although in this case it seems you are just imagining rather than actually thinking.
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Yeah, lying about something (even unintentionally) doesn't make it true.
I'm wondering if this is just a myth created by some competitors to get people either upset, or maybe to turn off their phones (fewer phones registering on the world wide webs??)... Who knows, My wife and I have the 4s.. I manually updated mine, which required me to accept the terms before the download started (if I remember correctly). My wife's has still not gotten an "Auto" upload.
Anyone having auto must have some serious problems! Yes the files might auto download but I guarantee you install should NEVER occur without "I agree" to terms and conditions being clicked or rather tapped - Rick - Hotline IT team
I'm wondering if this is just a myth created by some competitors to get people either upset, or maybe to turn off their phones (fewer phones registering on the world wide webs??)... Who knows, My wife and I have the 4s.. I manually updated mine, which required me to accept the terms before the download started (if I remember correctly). My wife's has still not gotten an "Auto" upload.
Auto installation is not the point – it's neither the topic of the main article nor is it the problem most people are discussing here.
Such a big fail on reading comprehension on the part of most posters...it's not even funny. Either that or just plain trolling...which is not even creative, let alone pointless.
This isn't even about iOS 7, or installing anything, it's simply about the phone doing something on its own to download something fairly large without a straightforward way for you to disable that or control it.
I bet even when put that simply most will still not get it and continue with irrelevant posts.
This isn't even about iOS 7, or installing anything, it's simply about the phone doing something on its own to download something fairly large without a straightforward way for you to disable that or control it.
I bet even when put that simply most will still not get it and continue with irrelevant posts.
Oh man, why can't I upvote this comment more than once... After explaining it several times, I officially give up now. Not worthy the energy to discuss with stupid, ignorant big-mouths who aren't even trying to understand and quietly disappear after you got them trapped in a corner...
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The automatic update download feature has been available since iOS 5, as explained here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4623
As it says, and mentioned in this thread previously, three conditions must be met before an automatic download takes place.
1. Device connected to internet via wifi.
2. Device connected to external power.
3. Sufficient storage space available for the download, and installation process.
If the automatic download is not wanted, make sure conditions 1 & 2 are not enabled simultaneously. Remember to disable wifi before charging, or charge with device turned off.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4623
As it says, and mentioned in this thread previously, three conditions must be met before an automatic download takes place.
1. Device connected to internet via wifi.
2. Device connected to external power.
3. Sufficient storage space available for the download, and installation process.
If the automatic download is not wanted, make sure conditions 1 & 2 are not enabled simultaneously. Remember to disable wifi before charging, or charge with device turned off.
It's definitely a workaround, but not a solution (at the very least not a good one).
Sorry, my bad. It's Friday and I'm at work trying to get everything done quickly so I can start the weekend early. I misread (too quickly at that) and thought people were having the OS automatically "Install" not just download.
You were not the only one, but you are definitely only one of two people here (out of A LOT) who actually started their brain and got it after it was explained to them... So, no sorrys required at all.
nope. Ios 3 was the best...regardless of lack of features..it was about the battery life.
I say it was the best because in my opinion it was the most smooth and polished version of iOS. It had great features like iCloud and Notification Centre, as well having the original Google Maps and YouTube Apps. It had solid battery life as well.
Some might say, what was wrong with iOS 6? Lot's of things! They removed the YouTube and Google Maps app, they changed the layout of the App store and iTunes store which made it harder to navigate and just plain ugly. They also ruined the music app by switching to a horrible silver theme.
As for iOS 7, some people like it, but in my opinion it's cheap and ugly.
So taking all this into account, that is why I say iOS 5 was the best.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not but iOS 3 only supported the 3GS and below so the battery life couldn't have been that great.
If you don't want iOS 7, your best bet is to go Android or Windows Phone. This is the future of iOS, and there's no sense in delaying the inevitable. The HTC One is still a fantastic phone, and the Lumia 1020 seems pretty nice as well.
I'm sticking with the iPhone because I truly believe it is best for me. If the iPhone or iOS doesn't satisfy you, why prolong the pain? Find something better for yourself.
I'm sticking with the iPhone because I truly believe it is best for me. If the iPhone or iOS doesn't satisfy you, why prolong the pain? Find something better for yourself.
What people aren't getting is it doesn't take up 3GB these people aren't understanding how compressed files and iOS works the download only actually consumes 700 to 900 MB of phone space the rest of the space mentioned in the updates is the temporary space needed during install hence why the you see a "preparing" message during part of the final install steps! The space over 700-900 MB will be free after the install is fully completed or if you leave the download be without installing
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Windows Android and Blackberry are junk! Apple, iOS and iPhone forever
You are correct, I figured this out in the course of the thread, still was unclear at the beginning with the original article. (Still not 100% sure if the installer package will already download if you have more than about 750 MB free on your device, but less than 3 GB for installation - I guess not considering point 3 in post #208...?) Anyway, even "only" 750 MB for an undeletable installer package you don't intend to use is quite crazy. Would have loved a simple auto download disable option which so many here claim exists, but in fact does not...
Never said it was! We ( those of us using this account ) were merely responding to and answering another posters comment! Many of these posters reading this forum thread aren't reading and fully grasping the issues and the real facts many of which have been long the case with iOS
Sorry if you misunderstood the intent
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It might be crazy but assuming that the majority of the iDevice population uses 16GB or higher devices it's not a huge deal.
I'll grant you though it still might suck but the sad reality here is for many like it or not change is going to happen and ultimately the complaints since they still rank in the minority of iUsers will likely not change, fix or help the situation
I'm still not positive who this is applying to. I have iOS6 and iOS7 did not download automatically, as far as I can tell. How would I know? I have a message that I can't install because I don't have enough space, as expected. That's why I didn't update.
Yep. iDraw
...and iFiles.
And meshlab and autocad.
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As far as we know only iOS 5.0 and 6.0 did but then again most staff here are iVirgins still having only 2 1/2 years or less experience with iOS
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Based on what we've seen or read it seems aimed/confined mostly to those with later iOS 6 versions ( 6.1.2 6.1.3. Or 6.1.4 )
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Apple knows what best for you and how you should use your phone,
You must be holding it wrong..
Well of course apple knows what's best for iDevices and how they should be used
IP4 meltdown caused by pushed iOS 7 update files?
I speak as an only somewhat computer-savvy layperson. I just joined the forum to share my experience with trying to avoid updating my 16g iPhone 4 to iOS7. This will be a lengthy post because I believe what I have to say is illustrative of others' problems, and might add to the discussion.
I have a 32g IP5s on order, so before I downloaded 7 for my current IP4, I kept my eye on the forums. I decided I wanted to avoid the update, for the many reasons I read about, especially since my phone was telling me I didn't have enough space for it anyway (needed 3g free). Because I am migrating so soon to a much bigger 5s, I didn't want
to have to delete a bunch of stuff off the phone just to get ios7, which may or may not work too well on my IP4. I set my PC iTunes to NOT sync, and shut off everything related on my phone. I was going to back it up manually until I made the switch.
So for several days it told me 7 was available, and I ignored it, no space anyway, but then last night or early today something changed. When I looked in at available updates it now said 7.0.2 is available, but you don't have enough space. I thought, hmm, I didn't download or install 7, maybe it just doesn't say 7 is still undownloaded and uninstalled, and this 7.0.2 screen that has replaced the 7 update screen really has all of it (the complete update download) rolled into one. If I leave it alone it won't bother me.
Now I'm not so sure, especially after finding this thread.
My iphone was plugged in overnight to charge, with wifi on, but as mentioned, with no auto sync on either the PC or phone turned on. Although no evidence of any download was
to be found in usage, in addition to the vanishing update notification about ios7 that morphed into an ios7.0.2 update notification, my phone was suddenly burning hot when I went to use it today- and I mean HOT when unplugged- and losing juice at nearly 1% a minute. And every app and function was burping, hiccuping or crashing. The only other time I have seen this was when I overloaded my phone memory once before, and was able to stabilize it only by getting rid of music and apps I didn't really need on there.
So back to the forums to investigate my phone mess, and I learn others are convinced Apple has pushed a huge chunk of files onto our ios 6 phones, regardless of no-sync settings, forcing an ios7 installation files download (which I understand are never actually launched unless I "say go"), uninvited and unwanted, causing chaos on some phones, like mine, apparently..
When I had researched all I could today, I finally felt defeated and deleted a bunch of music and videos I really didn't want to, or want to HAVE to, and bingo!, the phone stops being hot, apps and everything work more properly, and the battery starts behaving. And now the software update section says "7.0.2 is ready to download and install" instead of there not being enough space. (Again, what happened to the initial 7 update screen?)
It turns out the amount of memory needed to liberate the phone's usability was, surprise!, almost exactly the same amount requested last week by the original ios7 update download, 3 gb. Hmmmm. Coincidence? I now think not.(Note: I know the installed size is closer to 750mb. I also know all about hard resets and reboots, etc. Deleting content was the only option left to stabilize the phone.)
I conclude (as do many others) that my phone's memory was squeezed to death by a data hit from Apple overnight, one that could not be seen in usage, much less eradicated or avoided, no matter how hard I tried, and it really ticks me off. There's just no other plausible explanation for the memory loss, phone function meltdown, changing update screens and extreme overheating that miraculously fixed themselves when 3g of memory was freed up today.
How can Apple, any device manufacturer really, get away with effectively disabling thousands of phones, or at the very least causing huge headaches, with unwanted and/or unneeded software downloads? SHAME ON APPLE!
I speak as an only somewhat computer-savvy layperson. I just joined the forum to share my experience with trying to avoid updating my 16g iPhone 4 to iOS7. This will be a lengthy post because I believe what I have to say is illustrative of others' problems, and might add to the discussion.
I have a 32g IP5s on order, so before I downloaded 7 for my current IP4, I kept my eye on the forums. I decided I wanted to avoid the update, for the many reasons I read about, especially since my phone was telling me I didn't have enough space for it anyway (needed 3g free). Because I am migrating so soon to a much bigger 5s, I didn't want
to have to delete a bunch of stuff off the phone just to get ios7, which may or may not work too well on my IP4. I set my PC iTunes to NOT sync, and shut off everything related on my phone. I was going to back it up manually until I made the switch.
So for several days it told me 7 was available, and I ignored it, no space anyway, but then last night or early today something changed. When I looked in at available updates it now said 7.0.2 is available, but you don't have enough space. I thought, hmm, I didn't download or install 7, maybe it just doesn't say 7 is still undownloaded and uninstalled, and this 7.0.2 screen that has replaced the 7 update screen really has all of it (the complete update download) rolled into one. If I leave it alone it won't bother me.
Now I'm not so sure, especially after finding this thread.
My iphone was plugged in overnight to charge, with wifi on, but as mentioned, with no auto sync on either the PC or phone turned on. Although no evidence of any download was
to be found in usage, in addition to the vanishing update notification about ios7 that morphed into an ios7.0.2 update notification, my phone was suddenly burning hot when I went to use it today- and I mean HOT when unplugged- and losing juice at nearly 1% a minute. And every app and function was burping, hiccuping or crashing. The only other time I have seen this was when I overloaded my phone memory once before, and was able to stabilize it only by getting rid of music and apps I didn't really need on there.
So back to the forums to investigate my phone mess, and I learn others are convinced Apple has pushed a huge chunk of files onto our ios 6 phones, regardless of no-sync settings, forcing an ios7 installation files download (which I understand are never actually launched unless I "say go"), uninvited and unwanted, causing chaos on some phones, like mine, apparently..
When I had researched all I could today, I finally felt defeated and deleted a bunch of music and videos I really didn't want to, or want to HAVE to, and bingo!, the phone stops being hot, apps and everything work more properly, and the battery starts behaving. And now the software update section says "7.0.2 is ready to download and install" instead of there not being enough space. (Again, what happened to the initial 7 update screen?)
It turns out the amount of memory needed to liberate the phone's usability was, surprise!, almost exactly the same amount requested last week by the original ios7 update download, 3 gb. Hmmmm. Coincidence? I now think not.(Note: I know the installed size is closer to 750mb. I also know all about hard resets and reboots, etc. Deleting content was the only option left to stabilize the phone.)
I conclude (as do many others) that my phone's memory was squeezed to death by a data hit from Apple overnight, one that could not be seen in usage, much less eradicated or avoided, no matter how hard I tried, and it really ticks me off. There's just no other plausible explanation for the memory loss, phone function meltdown, changing update screens and extreme overheating that miraculously fixed themselves when 3g of memory was freed up today.
How can Apple, any device manufacturer really, get away with effectively disabling thousands of phones, or at the very least causing huge headaches, with unwanted and/or unneeded software downloads? SHAME ON APPLE!