Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Didn't notice bugs in 7.1, didn't notice improvements in 7.1.1 :(:
I agree, me too.
I still can't get McDonalds to remember to give me that little bag of finely chopped peanuts every time I order a sundae.

General security, performance, and stability updates (even if not really noticeable) are worth it anyway.
 
This 18.8 MB update on my iPhone 5 requires Wi-Fi? WTF? You can download app updates far bigger than that over mobile data. I've just moved home and have a few days without home internet. 3G has been fine for everything else. Annoying. Hmm... my favourite place to borrow Wi-Fi is the Apple Store; I'll be making a trip tomorrow ;)

to download 18mb?

----------

I shall also ask what was wrong, as I've used WiFi hotspot just fine on 7.1. In fact I relied on it extensively on my last trip, which nearly pushed me over my data plan for the month. :)

On the last billing period day I was at 3997 out of 4096. :)

i always found connecting to the hotspot to be clunky.
i cant just leave the hot-spot setting on on the iphone and connect to it as needed.
i have to turn it off, turn it back on, leave it on that settings page and have the connecting device look for the iphone at that very moment - thats the only windows when the SSID would actually be broadcasted by the iphone.

maybe im doing something wrong but its my 2nd iphone with this 'issue'
 
This 18.8 MB update on my iPhone 5 requires Wi-Fi? WTF? You can download app updates far bigger than that over mobile data. I've just moved home and have a few days without home internet. 3G has been fine for everything else. Annoying. Hmm... my favourite place to borrow Wi-Fi is the Apple Store; I'll be making a trip tomorrow ;)
So that the carriers don't suddenly lose tons of bandwidth when a whole bunch of people (way way more than any normal load) would start updating around the same time and continue so throughout the day or days following, given how many iPhones there are out there. 18 MB sounds small, but when thousands on thousands of people are updating around the same general time, it can and would get crazy.
 
So that the carriers don't suddenly lose tons of bandwidth when a whole bunch of people (way way more than any normal load) would start updating around the same time and continue so throughout the day or days following, given how many iPhones there are out there. 18 MB sounds small, but when thousands on thousands of people are updating around the same general time, it can and would get crazy.


With iOS 7 they introduced both automatic app updates and up to 100mb mobile data updates. There are some apps like Facebook that MANY users have installed- think how much bandwidth that can use when 100mb updates are put out. Also, you don't tend to receive alerts about iOS updates immediately- they are staggered, or at least COULD be.

Your justification may be the official one but it's not sound in my opinion. I think it's an oversight and that this limit could be upped to at least 50mb, or made carrier specific.

----------

what's your wifi download limit at home and speed???


I don't have wi-fi, I just moved as I said in my post. No proper internet for a week :(

I'm a dummy though, I just realised I can update over iTunes (on a laptop using a tethered connection from my phone!) Still, pretty annoying, so much for post-PC eh?!

edit: uh, except you seem to have to download the full update rather than the delta update with iTunes...
 
Last edited:
With iOS 7 they introduced both automatic app updates and up to 100mb mobile data updates. There are some apps like Facebook that MANY users have installed- think how much bandwidth that can use when 100mb updates are put out. Also, you don't tend to receive alerts about iOS updates immediately- they are staggered, or at least COULD be.

Your justification may be the official one but it's not sound in my opinion. I think it's an oversight and that this limit could be upped to at least 50mb, or made carrier specific.

----------




I don't have wi-fi, I just moved as I said in my post. No proper internet for a week :(

I'm a dummy though, I just realised I can update over iTunes (on a laptop using a tethered connection from my phone!) Still, pretty annoying, so much for post-PC eh?!
I'd bet that as many people have Facebook, it still pales to the number of people with iPhones in general.

I'm not really saying the justification is a perfect one or completely covers it all, but that's essentially what's behind it. Perhaps at some point they'll tweak it where some smaller updates might be allowed. Or perhaps there are other things in play as well to go against that--like something not going right during an install and it needing to pull and install the whole file (which is much larger) or some additional Apple server validation that is needed and requires a stable connection otherwise things would get hung up in the middle of the install, where WiFi is generally seen as a much more stable medium in cases like this vs. cellular.
 
In about 27 minutes there will be a thread "7.1.1 battery life is much worse"...

It happens every time. ;)

Yes, I have noticed that since Apple released the 7.1.1 update that my battery life has gotten much worse.. ;)

I'm gonna install the 7.1.1 update now, and see if that fixes it :cool:
 
I'd bet that as many people have Facebook, it still pales to the number of people with iPhones in general.

I'm not really saying the justification is a perfect one or completely covers it all, but that's essentially what's behind it. Perhaps at some point they'll tweak it where some smaller updates might be allowed. Or perhaps there are other things in play as well to go against that--like something not going right during an install and it needing to pull and install the whole file (which is much larger) or some additional Apple server validation that is needed and requires a stable connection otherwise things would get hung up in the middle of the install, where WiFi is generally seen as a much more stable medium in cases like this vs. cellular.


You're always right
 
They still haven't "fixed" the music lock screen. There is still white bars on non-square album art.
qypy7yjy.jpg

Previously the white space use to be the background. Mainly a visual quirk but quite eye catching.
 
I don't see anything wrong in video.

I use reduced motion, the transitions are definitely different with bringing up multitasking and moving from an app to the home screen.

Edit: Here's a video showing transitions with reduced motions on that I just did. This is on 7.0.6 on an iPad Mini 1st Gen. I did the transitions slowly a few times to show the difference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bhwO6JoGDs
 
Last edited:
Hmm, once again an update addresses zero of my issues.

Maybe, but it patched another extremely critical cryptography vulnerability in IOS which Apple didn't clarify in its update.
http://arstechnica.com/security/201...tremely-critical-triple-handshake-crypto-bug/

The flaw resides in the secure transport mechanism of iOS version 7.1 and earlier for iPhones and iPads and the Mountain Lion 10.8.5 and Mavericks 10.9.2 versions of Mac OS X, according to advisories here and here. The bug makes it possible to bypass HTTPS encryption protections that are designed to prevent eavesdropping and data tampering by attackers with the capability to monitor traffic sent by and received from vulnerable devices. Such "man-in-the-middle" attackers could exploit the bug by abusing the "triple handshake" carried out when secure connections are established by applications that use client certificates to authenticate end users.
 
Well, it's too soon to judge battery life but NONE of the main issues I experience with my iPhone 5 have been fixed. Namely:

Spinning data wheel (for no apparent reason) on occasion. A hard reset temporarily rectifies things.

Notification centre always opens on 'missed'.

Safari frequently 'hangs' whilst loading webpages, and only force-closing the app cures it - again this is just a temporary measure.

Safari frequently reloads webpages.

A question mark still exists over battery life, but I haven't had the update for more than a few hours so cannot judge this yet. My first impressions are that it seems no different/better.
 
Well, it's too soon to judge battery life but NONE of the main issues I experience with my iPhone 5 have been fixed. Namely:

Spinning data wheel (for no apparent reason) on occasion. A hard reset temporarily rectifies things.

Notification centre always opens on 'missed'.

Safari frequently 'hangs' whilst loading webpages, and only force-closing the app cures it - again this is just a temporary measure.

Safari frequently reloads webpages.

A question mark still exists over battery life, but I haven't had the update for more than a few hours so cannot judge this yet. My first impressions are that it seems no different/better.
You already have had the spinner appear on the home screen in iOS 7.1.1 for no reason and it wouldn't go away even after some time except when you reset the phone?
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.