Some people have issues after upgrades, it's always been the case. Rarely are those issues widespread and mean something inherently wrong with the update. This is another one of those cases where some have some issues but the vast majority do not.
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iOS 7.1.2 might coming this month
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I've said this a few times, Apple needs to get stricter with battery consumption by apps. They've opened the floodgates and the amount of battery consuming activities that happen in the background, especially by 3rd party apps (cough, Facebook..), by default is ridiculous.
They need to start requiring apps to use as little battery as possible, or put a warning that this app consumes lots of battery. Games will be obvious ones, but subtle ones like Snapchat, also suck battery for no real reason other than because they're coded really inefficiently and feature bloated.
I hope iOS 8 has much better battery management. Who cares about new features if your phone will last half a day with them enabled..
They need to start requiring apps to use as little battery as possible, or put a warning that this app consumes lots of battery. Games will be obvious ones, but subtle ones like Snapchat, also suck battery for no real reason other than because they're coded really inefficiently and feature bloated.
I hope iOS 8 has much better battery management. Who cares about new features if your phone will last half a day with them enabled..
How Many Is "a Few"?
Believe me, I've been rolling out updates and upgrades for years. I know when a release affects few or many. Since my issues with battery drain and WiFi started immediately after the 7.1.1 update, I've been doing my research. Many are affected by what, in my opinion, is a buggy update.
Believe me, I've been rolling out updates and upgrades for years. I know when a release affects few or many. Since my issues with battery drain and WiFi started immediately after the 7.1.1 update, I've been doing my research. Many are affected by what, in my opinion, is a buggy update.
Compared to the population that updated to iOS 7.1.1 is there something that points to the majority or even a big enough group of that population being affected by those issues? Many can be many, and it's still something that is worthy of looking into of course, but it can still be a tiny cross-section of the population which wouldn't really imply that there is something inherently wrong with what's in the update.
You are not kidding about snapchat. The new update with background app toggled on for it is horrific.
Letting apps do more tasks in the background will always cause faster battery drain, there is nothing weird about this. The alternative is to use "fake multitasking" as in previous versions of iOS which was really a shame for todays mobile devices. Yet, what we have in iOS right now still isn't true multitasking because it is still somewhat limited.
This was the main reason why Android devices tended to have less battery life. Because it allowed the apps to do this right from day one. Since Apple users are used to longer battery lives due to the lack of real multitasking in the OS, they see they always see the new versions as a step backwards in terms of battery life, where it is in fact a step forwards.
Anyway, it's the developers responsibility to pay attention to perform only necessary actions in the background. If they overuse it, then they will drain battery very quickly. If you see an app that drains the battery too quickly, let the developer know and simply stop using it until they fix it.
This was the main reason why Android devices tended to have less battery life. Because it allowed the apps to do this right from day one. Since Apple users are used to longer battery lives due to the lack of real multitasking in the OS, they see they always see the new versions as a step backwards in terms of battery life, where it is in fact a step forwards.
Anyway, it's the developers responsibility to pay attention to perform only necessary actions in the background. If they overuse it, then they will drain battery very quickly. If you see an app that drains the battery too quickly, let the developer know and simply stop using it until they fix it.
I love how the two sides bicker.
Person with issue: EVERYONE MUST HAVE THIS ISSUE! STOP DEFENDING APPLE SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE IT!
Person without issue: MINE'S FINE SO EVERYONE'S MUST BE! YOU'RE LYING.
Here's a thought for both; As good as Apple is, install corruption can still happen. Issues can present in certain situations. It doesn't mean it's widespread, nor does it mean that it's nonexistent. It may just be a select few, but that doesn't mean there's no issue to be fixed.
Person with issue: EVERYONE MUST HAVE THIS ISSUE! STOP DEFENDING APPLE SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE IT!
Person without issue: MINE'S FINE SO EVERYONE'S MUST BE! YOU'RE LYING.
Here's a thought for both; As good as Apple is, install corruption can still happen. Issues can present in certain situations. It doesn't mean it's widespread, nor does it mean that it's nonexistent. It may just be a select few, but that doesn't mean there's no issue to be fixed.
I'm a seasoned software dev so I KNOW how things work under the hood. It has nothing to do with being naive.
Apple might be able do something to improve the situation but there is a limit to that.
There are plenty notorious apps that abuse battery life. Facebook and Snapchat are among the worst. You're naive if you think the big app developers will care enough about battery life to make their apps as efficient as they could be.
I'm not saying that they will, and they probably won't. All I'm saying is that's the only thing you can do about it. The other options you have is not using those apps, or learning to live with a shorter battery life. In either case, Apple isn't the main source of the problem.
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It's Apple's walled garden, their developer tools. They could get strict on battery life if they wanted to. Apple have a problem with battery on their platform and there's little signs they are doing anything about it. We'll see if 7.1.2 is real or if iOS 8 does anything.
We'll all have to wait for the next iPhone for substantional gains in battery life. Bigger battery and more efficient A8 chip. No update will make massive gains with the current iPhones.
i own 4S and am a poor boy who bought this last month
for me when i updated IOS 7.1 it was good, except battery nothing bother me at all.. but last month when i updated to IOS 7.1.1 i have got a new problem, that is my phone hangs and in the lock screen i can only control only the accessibility switching icon.. it happens often.. my friends are asking me to reset the phone once, but i don't want to lose all apps and contacts so am waiting for IOS 7.1.2 , and i don't whether that could help me. / Apple should announce some statement while relleasing the IOS , whether its compatible or not...
for me when i updated IOS 7.1 it was good, except battery nothing bother me at all.. but last month when i updated to IOS 7.1.1 i have got a new problem, that is my phone hangs and in the lock screen i can only control only the accessibility switching icon.. it happens often.. my friends are asking me to reset the phone once, but i don't want to lose all apps and contacts so am waiting for IOS 7.1.2 , and i don't whether that could help me. / Apple should announce some statement while relleasing the IOS , whether its compatible or not...
Apple shouldn't intervene with it. Some apps might be abusing it but there are some other apps that actually need a lot of background processing. Limiting that would be limiting the capabilities of some apps in the platform and that shouldn't happen. That is, unless they want to return to iOS 4.0. The improvement should be made with the hardware not with the OS itself.
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I started having a similar issue 2-3 days ago on my iPad 4. In the lock screen, I couldn't slide the arrow to unlock the screen because it only allowed me to slide only 1cm or so, and then got back to its original location. I had to do turn device off and on again to be able to unlock it about 3 times now. It has started to get annoying. It's really amazing how they manage to introduce new bugs to places that didn't actually change in the new version.
They have features that the current hardware's battery can't handle. I agree they need to make hardware improvements, but they also need to improve the software too.
Facebook hogs battery - why? It's feature bloated with crap, pinging your location constantly unless you know how to disable those. Your average user won't. So why does Apple let 3rd party apps wreck their phone's battery by default?
I've already said why. You can't punish everyone because of a problem caused by a small number of apps.
You're right about The FB app but an average user should learn how to disable those features then. Just because people don't know how to turn them off, apple should, for example, disable background processing for everyone?
If they can improve the efficiency of performing those tasks in the background without introducing new limitations, then by all means they should do so. Bun I don't think that they can gain much by doing that.
so much for this coming out before WWDC
Yeah, weird.
It may come tomorrow but that's a long shot as it's so close to WWDC.
Surely you'd think they'd release it before they release iOS 8 beta 1 on either the 2nd of 3rd of June?
because it would be dumb to push 2 updates at the same time, the servers would explode. It's just not gonna happen.