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are the icons still ugly?

Who cares about the icons!? People don't work in the icons, they work with the apps they represent.
I wish I had your problems, because apparently you don't have a real one to worry about.
 
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect APPLE to produce a beta that at a minimum has decent battery life. We aren't talking about some small niche company here, it's APPLE for **** sake. Stop giving them a free pass on everything.

Yes, it's unreasonable to expect that. It's unreasonable to expect anything at all, since it's a beta version.
A beta version has non-optimized code, logs practically everything and sends those reports back to Apple, so a poor battery performance is expected to account these operations.

This is not a free pass and has nothing to do with Apple. That's just how software engineering works.
 
iOS7 Work in Progress

Anyone notice that Push Email on Exchange has been a little flakey? I have to open the mail app to get new email.

yes the push email is not working like push. It has its own way of sometimes working and fetching emails .
 
I don't know if this has been answered yet, if so I haven't read anything on it; but how is performance of iOS 7 on the 4s? Those with experience on the matter: has the performance increased over iOS 6? I would think with a simpler GUI that it would free up system resources to allow the 4s to be faster/snappier.

iOS 6 has made my 4s run like ****. It is constantly crashing and freezing. It almost feels like an early android phone where everything is slow and unresponsive. I'm eager to upgrade iOS just because terrible performance of iOS6 on my 4s.
 
Agree. It seems a slight take on a Cydia app, "Auxo", which is implemented much better.

http://moreinfo.thebigboss.org/moreinfo/depiction.php?file=auxoDp

Couldn't disagree more. Auxo was a pig to use. Lots of side scrolling that just took longer than going into settings or music, not to mention it mixed up the functions of different areas.

I think that's what this OS is all about. Keeping to those definitions and stripping what isn't needed. They can build up from there.
 
Couldn't disagree more. Auxo was a pig to use. Lots of side scrolling that just took longer than going into settings or music, not to mention it mixed up the functions of different areas.

I think that's what this OS is all about. Keeping to those definitions and stripping what isn't needed. They can build up from there.

Agree. I only liked the multitask switching, swiping an open app down is much faster than zooming out, swiping between live open app pages, waiting until the app page is centered, then swiping up to remove. Not a good implementation. My only remark was comparing that function to "Auxo's" implementation. :)
 
Who cares about the icons!? People don't work in the icons, they work with the apps they represent.
I wish I had your problems, because apparently you don't have a real one to worry about.
Who cares about what their car looks like? It still gets you to work. :rolleyes:
 
Who cares about what their car looks like? It still gets you to work. :rolleyes:

How many people stare at their home screen for extended period of time? I'm sitting in my car a lot more than I am looking at my iPhone home screen.
 
That may be part of the intention but they surely aren't going to get the level of bug reports without a subset of users outside of the dev community. Again we are talking about APPLE, the company with hundreds of billions in cash.

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Maybe so but how is battery performance something that needs to be re-learned on every friggin new version of the OS? You'd think they know that is 1. A priority and 2. Something that they've optimized on every previous version of the OS. 3. How does a beta even go out without having battery life optimized from day one?

If you don't want to put up with the problems inherent in beta software don't load beta software on your device. It really is that simple.
 
No probs here, but this is the reason why you should always install new betas as new device and not update and never ever restore from backup...
It was mentioned so many times on these forums and yet people are still ignoring it...
And where does this absolute rule come from? People say this. A lot. But it's simply not true.

If it were, let me ask this one simple question: why does Apple offer OTA beta upgrades, if you aren't supposed to do them?

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For the last time. Turn off all the system location services. You don't need them and it will boost your battery life dramatically.

Not really. System's internal use of Location Services rely primarily on WiFi and cell readings, which are all but passive since these radios are operating unless they are fully disabled anyway. Battery impact is negligible.

And to say you don't need them is silly. If you turn off Location Services, you lose significant utility of iOS. You need them if you want to make full use of the device.

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I don't think it's unreasonable to expect APPLE to produce a beta that at a minimum has decent battery life. We aren't talking about some small niche company here, it's APPLE for **** sake. Stop giving them a free pass on everything.

Do you even know how writing software works? You get all the pieces in place first, then optimize. Software doesn't just get written perfectly in one shot. Not even Apple can do that.

Apple gets significantly better battery life out of smaller capacity batteries than is common in the industry. This doesn't just magically happen. Apple has to tune a broad range of factors in the software to manage this.

Even the fact that the battery life on betas isn't that bad is pretty impressive. That a beta iPhone 5 outlasts a non-beta Nexus 4? Yet you find this a "free pass"?

Speak of being unreasonable!
 
Agree. I only liked the multitask switching, swiping an open app down is much faster than zooming out, swiping between live open app pages, waiting until the app page is centered, then swiping up to remove. Not a good implementation. My only remark was comparing that function to "Auxo's" implementation. :)

That's fair enough. Jeez...did we just have a rational discussion? We're on the internet damn it! Insult my mother or something?!

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Who cares about what their car looks like? It still gets you to work. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I guess this approach doesn't really work. We buy Apple because we love the design. If we don't like the design or, as in this case, the design of something we really liked changes, then that's kind of annoying.

I think they'll change the icons but not until final release and not hugely. They just match gradient directions, unify them all a bit more etc. Those icons are on the darn packaging and adverts. No way they're going to let them sit there like that.
 
Dear Macrumors,
I just found out that the "save image" button is slightly different.
That's all,
-Alex
 

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Is anyone else having issues with notes in the reminders app? The app seems to work okay when viewing reminders, but as soon as you try and view any more info about a reminder the app freezes.

If I add a new reminder, I can add more info (notes etc), can click on the 'I' icon to view more info, but can't edit any info. I do have a load of notes for each reminder which it may not be liking.

And before anyone jumps down my neck, I do realise this is beta etc etc. I've just experienced this in B1, B2 and B3, which makes the app unusable for me.
 
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Lock Screen - When playing music, the lock screen will now display the time.

Music App - The Music app has seen a slight redesign with new icons and rearranged controls. Ratings have also been re-added.



Article Link: iOS 7 Beta 3 Tidbits: New App Download Animation, Thicker Fonts, Safari Improvements



Your penchant for proper music doesn't go unnoticed here: my compliments to a man enjoying Giazotto's (or Albinoni's, as many are led to believe… as someone who has well over half-a-day worth of various recordings of Albinoni's works from a number of Opi, I beg to differ if it matters) 'Adagio in G Minor'. Beautiful, albeit excessively popularised, work, indeed. Good to know there's an occasional soul on MacRumors.net, let alone an active contributor, who's iPhone isn't filled with "Boom-Boom-Boom" or "Mutha-****a-Bitch" and goodness knows whatsoever shouting and shamanistic chanting of Neanderthal taste, but contains [at least some] proper music. Mine is practically filled to the brim with everything from Monteverdi to Gluck (anything newer is a virtual sacrilege to me, although I don't mind Classicism and Romantics too much - just not my cup of tea in the same extent [mid-to-late] Baroque is. Giazotto and a couple of other modern names I deem exceptions from the rule).
Well, I'll kill my digression here and now; I hope, my compliment is appreciated.
 
Maybe so but how is battery performance something that needs to be re-learned on every friggin new version of the OS? You'd think they know that is 1. A priority and 2. Something that they've optimized on every previous version of the OS. 3. How does a beta even go out without having battery life optimized from day one?

You're right, they're probably just stupid. You should show them the 'optimize battery life' button.
 
That's fair enough. Jeez...did we just have a rational discussion? We're on the internet damn it! Insult my mother or something?!

No kidding. I've been pleasantly surprised that more recent online discussions have become, well, civil discussions :)
 
So you would be happy if I used 4pt Helvetica Ultralight reversed out of a four colour 'black' on your business cards and charged you for it?

What if Apple set the font size to 2 pixels in iOS7?

Holy slippery slope, batman!

Forgetting the rules doesn't mean be ****ing retarded about it. You can forget rules and make things look good. You just have to find out WHAT looks good, otherwise you end up with a generic bland user interface that looks just like everyone else's.
 
So it still sucks

Looks like still breaks most the good conventions Apple established with previous iOS versions to be a giant step backward in usability. There are a million critiques on the web, no need to repeat them. IOS 7 is jacked up. Icons are the least of its problems. But hey - no leather - so I guess there is that because that's a thing or something.
 
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