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Pre iOS 7 there was constant complaining about iOS being outdated, people hating "skeuomorphism",
Most people did not even know that "skeuomorphism" existed before some blogger figured this to be a nice way of generating more clicks. I still do believe it's a good approach in general and you just can't get rid of it without abandoning half of the whole computer industry.

missing features x, y & z blah, blah, blah. Well, with iOS 7 Apple has added some of those missing features and freshened up the UI (no more faux leather and green felt!).
I agree that some parts of the skeuomorphic design may be over the top, but that could have been refined much more subtly instead of throwing it all away and simply following the current design hype.

Apple used to set trends, not follow them.

there's just as much chance Apple will attract new people to the platform as there is existing customers leaving.
I think it depends on which type of people might be attracted. Those that just come for the latest hype will be gone next year when Apple couldn't keep up with the then latest hip style.
 
Is anyone having issues downloading apps. I've got three which have gotten stuck and tried hard resets and deleting them... all of which has failed to help

Yes! It's not just iOS 7, it's been happening on my iOS 6 devices and friends devices as well. Rebooted, deleted the stuck apps, nothing. Finally I opened the App Store and noticed an "Update" option next to each app in "Purchased Apps."
 
Apple TV Setup

I wouldn't normally put this here in a public forum, but since the dev forums are still down I was wondering if anyone else has successfully done the Apple TV setup using their phone. I downloaded the ATV beta, and I have it sitting at the setup screen. I don't see the same exact text on my screen as what shows up on Macrumors, and touching my iPhone to the ATV does nothing. I have an Apple TV 2, and I am running iOS7 B4 on an iPhone 5. If anyone has any thoughts, insights or suggestions you can PM me. Thanks.
 
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Screenshot API - As noted by 9to5Mac, iOS 7 Beta 4 includes a new screenshot detection API that solves an issue preventing Snapchat from detecting screenshots.
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I hate the idea of an app knowing that I take a screenshot of it... The app should at least ask to use that API, as apps that use geolocation do, if I refuse, the app won't get my position. Normally as a developer I'm glad for every new API that Apple makes available, but this one is just too much. If I have a right to see something, I have to have the right to save it too, because if I don't, I could easily end up in jail for merely remembering something. If you don't want me to save something, just don't show it to me at all... If you show something to anybody, on the internet or not, expect him or her to save it/remember it. Period.
 
Looks like there are some new settings inside of iTunes radio, such as play explicit tracks. I guess that's nice if you want to set up a family friendly station.

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The update to the messages app show the first name and the first initial of the last name.

In my contacts, I have:
Eric Wood
Eric Williams

If the messages app reduces the name of both to "Eric W" how am I supposed to tell who I am talking to easily. I think this update needs to be reverted, like "NOW" because that is going to cause a lot of issues. :mad: :eek:

You can change that in the settings. I think there is an option for full name as well as "FI LNAME." One of those would probably be better for you.

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I'm surprised there isn't a contact pictures next to the name. It would help specify and break up all the text.

In iMessage? There are for mine, if there is a photo assigned to the contact.

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It looks like they finally added flagged emails to iOS 7 Beta 4!

There is also a new (?) setting so that you can change the "flagged" icon from a orange circle to an actual flag.

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how is the performance (speed and battery life primarily) of iOS7 on the 4s? I've been contemplating updating my phone to iOS7 because iOS6 has virtually crippled my 4s. It constantly freezes and crashes on native apps like messages and photos. If even freezes and soft resets occasionally when i scroll through my apps.

My battery life is by far the worst out of any iPhone I've ever owned and this is the only iPhone I haven't jailbroken. Very, very disappointed! :mad:

I've not had a lot of trouble with my 4S and iOS6. The 1st three iOS7 betas were slow and buggy and killed my battery. I cannot speak to the battery with b4, but so far this beta feels a lot more stable and responsive.
 
You could just swipe back to your messages list, there it shows the full names for each message thread :)

But yes I can see how that would be inconvenient.

It definitely adds unnecessary hassle. I think adding a profile picture, like Whatsapp does, is long overdue. In addition, the app should be smart enough to show the complete surname automatically for those names that could otherwise not be distinguished without going back to the messages list. Apple didn't think this one through, and I hope a future build will address this.
 
If a company is serious about its customers, it should also care for understanding the reasons that make people (especially long-term users) leave the platform.

Otherwise it might miss the chance to recognize potential problems while they develop. Established platforms deteriorate over time, not over night.

For the same reason every serious platform fan should care to at least understand the motivation of long-term users pondering to leave - chances are that oneself is overlooking certain aspects and/or has become less critical over time.

On the other hand, long time platform users, be it Apple, MS, etc are always leaving. Always. While it might certainly be interesting to know why, motivations are always personal - i.e. someone has a visceral reaction against new icons or doesn't like the flow or the use of text or it doesn't have a missing feature they just gotta have - and because those don't necessarily translate to the next person, you can't spend too much time worrying about it.

While you're right that it's possible that serious platform fans might be guilty of overlooking certain aspects of a given change or have become less critical, it's also possible that they don't share the same concerns or have other things that might be more important that they find are being addressed by given changes.

If Apple can't provide a compelling enough product that keeps new adopters coming in to take the place of people who leave, then they need to take serious stock, obviously.
 
"Actually it's a very well thought out change." Apart from the double tap, so not a well thought out change.
Really? A double tap is something that is suddenly complex or really annoying for something like this?
 
Why did apple change the Photos and Safari icons. They are not intuitive. If the word Photos wasn't written below the icon, I would never have guessed it was for photos. Same with Safari.

The mail, music and videos icons on the other hand clearly indicate what those apps are for.
 
One thing I don't like is in Safari you now have to tap twice to go to the top of the page. Once at the top to get the URL bar and then again to get the page to move to the top. Some things haven't been thought out right.

Also I'm not convinced about the transparency which is evident when you have text floating like in the camera app when you have the filters on. The text denoting the filter changes between black and white depending on the colour of the pixel behind. However in some instances they have had to put a black "cloud" behind to highlight the white text enough. Very half-ars*d if you ask me. Again just doesn't seem thought out. If they'd used another transparent layer for example like that which is used for HDR, Flash etc they would have avoided this swapping colours and that awful cloud!

I like the double tap.. I think it's going to be necessary to keep the clean "URL disappears" feature.. Also, stops you from accidentally scrolling to top when you meant to tap a notification.
 
It definitely adds unnecessary hassle. I think adding a profile picture, like Whatsapp does, is long overdue. In addition, the app should be smart enough to show the complete surname automatically for those names that could otherwise not be distinguished without going back to the messages list. Apple didn't think this one through, and I hope a future build will address this.

"Mail, Contacts, Calendars" --> Scroll down to "Short Name" --> Turn off short name, or edit the settings.
 
Maps and Directions

I just noticed in Maps, when you tap on a place and get it's little popup, instead of showing you the miles to that place, it now shows you the driving time!

I also noticed, when getting driving directions, when the voice says "In 1 mile, the destination will be on your right" it adds to that by then saying the name of the destination.

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I like the new spotlight: accessing it is easy and the look is nice. Apple should take it one step further by enabling the user to also search the web. I realize that the idea of spotlight is to search your device (mac, phone, ipad, etc.); but having all your searching needs in one place would be great.
I always thought Search App Store would be a good option in Spotlight.
 
Why did apple change the Photos and Safari icons. They are not intuitive. If the word Photos wasn't written below the icon, I would never have guessed it was for photos. Same with Safari.

The mail, music and videos icons on the other hand clearly indicate what those apps are for.
Well, the sunflower doesn't really relate to photos, but I agree that the icon in iOS7 isn't much better. As for the Safari icon, there is some relation with the compass look, but still needs some work.
 
I just noticed in Maps, when you tap on a place and get it's little popup, instead of showing you the miles to that place, it now shows you the driving time!

I also noticed, when getting driving directions, when the voice says "In 1 mile, the destination will be on your right" it adds to that by then saying the name of the destination.

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I always thought Search App Store would be a good option in Spotlight.

And there is the Transit Directions! I think I'm going to love this ios version. No need to jailbreak for this feature anymore
 
The update to the messages app show the first name and the first initial of the last name.

In my contacts, I have:
Eric Wood
Eric Williams

If the messages app reduces the name of both to "Eric W" how am I supposed to tell who I am talking to easily. I think this update needs to be reverted, like "NOW" because that is going to cause a lot of issues. :mad: :eek:

This is easily fixed in Settings - emails, contacts and calendars - short names.
 
Most people did not even know that "skeuomorphism" existed before some blogger figured this to be a nice way of generating more clicks. I still do believe it's a good approach in general and you just can't get rid of it without abandoning half of the whole computer industry.


I agree that some parts of the skeuomorphic design may be over the top, but that could have been refined much more subtly instead of throwing it all away and simply following the current design hype.

Apple used to set trends, not follow them.


I think it depends on which type of people might be attracted. Those that just come for the latest hype will be gone next year when Apple couldn't keep up with the then latest hip style.

So basically you don't mind the current iOS design and think iOS 7 is just responding to some 'hip' trend. What trend exactly is iOS 7 following? And what exactly about iOS 6 was timeless?

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Why did apple change the Photos and Safari icons. They are not intuitive. If the word Photos wasn't written below the icon, I would never have guessed it was for photos. Same with Safari.

The mail, music and videos icons on the other hand clearly indicate what those apps are for.

How is a picture of a sunflower intuitive?
 
Another Icon Change?

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I believe the Voice Memos icon has changed.

Beta3.png Beta 3
Beta4.png Beta 4

I could be wrong, but I believe the change was made to avoid that "shaky" effect (of the icon) when you swipe between pages on SpringBoard.
 
I like the new icons but I wish Apple would implement themes that would incorporate different icons, color schemes and possibly fonts. I understand Apple likes to keep things simple but I think it would be a nice touch that wouldn't confuse the average user.
 
I like the new icons but I wish Apple would implement themes that would incorporate different icons, color schemes and possibly fonts. I understand Apple likes to keep things simple but I think it would be a nice touch that wouldn't confuse the average user.

I feel like the icons still lack consistency. But, it's a work in progress. Funny thing is the FaceTime camera looks like the one that was there before iOS 4.3.

One thing I can't stand is the Camera icon. That was the one thing that actually looked good in iOS 6 and previous versions.
 
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